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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 27, 2020 6:51:10 GMT -5
So you think us offering a 2* 6'4" SG is just a coinky-dink and that we actually compete in recruiting with UNC? I’m assuming you’re talking about Jaden House, who got a Georgetown offer on December 21, 2019. That was about two weeks before Walton had a Georgetown offer. Just wanted to correct your timeline. C'mon TC, tighten up your game. What is not a coincidence is the fact that House, whose only major conference offer is Georgetown, just announced recently that he is reclassifying from '21 to '20, and will be making his decision "soon".😉
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Post by bostonfan on Apr 27, 2020 7:24:48 GMT -5
So you think us offering a 2* 6'4" SG is just a coinky-dink and that we actually compete in recruiting with UNC? I’m assuming you’re talking about Jaden House, who got a Georgetown offer on December 21, 2019. That was about two weeks before Walton had a Georgetown offer. Just wanted to correct your timeline. I think the fact that House looks like he is going to reclassify is a big tell in this situation. If the rumors/hope that House is going to commit to Georgetown soon are true, then I think the Hoyas know that Walton is going in a different direction. I really like House and think he will be a really good player, who if he had the chance to play this summer and next year in high school would have been a top 100 recruit in the 2021 class. In his highlights he reminds me a little of LJ Peak, (aggressive/athletic, slasher/scorer). His game is certainly different from Walton, who is considered an elite shooter. I know that House is not as accomplished a shooter as Walton at this point, but that doesn't mean he can not develop that part of his game.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Apr 27, 2020 8:50:38 GMT -5
I’m assuming you’re talking about Jaden House, who got a Georgetown offer on December 21, 2019. That was about two weeks before Walton had a Georgetown offer. Just wanted to correct your timeline. I think the fact that House looks like he is going to reclassify is a big tell in this situation. If the rumors/hope that House is going to commit to Georgetown soon are true, then I think the Hoyas know that Walton is going in a different direction. I really like House and think he will be a really good player, who if he had the chance to play this summer and next year in high school would have been a top 100 recruit in the 2021 class. In his highlights he reminds me a little of LJ Peak, (aggressive/athletic, slasher/scorer). His game is certainly different from Walton, who is considered an elite shooter. I know that House is not as accomplished a shooter as Walton at this point, but that doesn't mean he can not develop that part of his game. Where are you getting that House would have been a Top 100 recruit in the 2021 class? He is presently a 2 Star recruit on most sites that I see and has offers from besides us...Howard, Old Dominion, Mount Saint Mary, etc... I like the look of him but nowhere do I see it being stated he was a top 100 talent if he stayed in the 2021 class...
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 27, 2020 8:58:22 GMT -5
I think the fact that House looks like he is going to reclassify is a big tell in this situation. If the rumors/hope that House is going to commit to Georgetown soon are true, then I think the Hoyas know that Walton is going in a different direction. I really like House and think he will be a really good player, who if he had the chance to play this summer and next year in high school would have been a top 100 recruit in the 2021 class. In his highlights he reminds me a little of LJ Peak, (aggressive/athletic, slasher/scorer). His game is certainly different from Walton, who is considered an elite shooter. I know that House is not as accomplished a shooter as Walton at this point, but that doesn't mean he can not develop that part of his game. Where are you getting that House would have been a Top 100 recruit in the 2021 class? He is presently a 2 Star recruit on most sites that I see and has offers from besides us...Howard, Old Dominion, Mount Saint Mary, etc... I like the look of him but nowhere do I see it being stated he was a top 100 talent if he stayed in the 2021 class... You know people can form ideas without being a slave to recruiting sites right? In fact, these kids develop their games in front of actual people before recruiting sites can pick up on it. Also, you do know 2 star means not yet evaluated right? I don’t know much about House’s situation, but he was the leading scorer and first team all state for a program that sends a kid D1 every year. Not out of the realm of the possibility for him to blow up. The recruiting process, like anything else, is nuanced and it goes in stages sometimes.
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Post by hoyazeke on Apr 27, 2020 9:06:10 GMT -5
Where are you getting that House would have been a Top 100 recruit in the 2021 class? He is presently a 2 Star recruit on most sites that I see and has offers from besides us...Howard, Old Dominion, Mount Saint Mary, etc... I like the look of him but nowhere do I see it being stated he was a top 100 talent if he stayed in the 2021 class... You know people can form ideas without being a slave to recruiting sites right? In fact, these kids develop their games in front of actual people before recruiting sites can pick up on it. Also, you do know 2 star means not yet evaluated right? I don’t know much about House’s situation, but he was the leading scorer and first team all state for a program that sends a kid D1 every year. Not out of the realm of the possibility for him to blow up. The recruiting process, like anything else, is nuanced and it goes in stages sometimes. If you watch this kid's tape you can easily see where he ends up high 3*-low 4* after another year in the recruiting cycle...
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 27, 2020 9:13:06 GMT -5
Heels report says tomorrow at 11:00 am announcing and cbcontent says tomorrow at 11:00 am between unc,Arizona and Minnesota final . I'm actually kind of rooting for Arizona to get him of the remaining 3 further irritating and pushing Akinoshow out of the picture.
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Post by daveg023 on Apr 27, 2020 9:13:13 GMT -5
You know people can form ideas without being a slave to recruiting sites right? In fact, these kids develop their games in front of actual people before recruiting sites can pick up on it. Also, you do know 2 star means not yet evaluated right? I don’t know much about House’s situation, but he was the leading scorer and first team all state for a program that sends a kid D1 every year. Not out of the realm of the possibility for him to blow up. The recruiting process, like anything else, is nuanced and it goes in stages sometimes. If you watch this kid's tape you can easily see where he ends up high 3*-low 4* after another year in the recruiting cycle... So our staff and this board are the only ones that see this? I get sometimes recruiting can create a “group think” problem where a guy’s status gets inflated, but I also find it hard to believe that they are no other major schools with this “vision” that this kid goes from unranked to 4 star. Recruiting is far too competitive to think every unranked kid we give an offer to is a diamond in the rough and becomes the next Markus Howard. I know morale is low here, but we can’t keep convincing ourselves the talent is better than the rest of college basketball universe thinks. If you look at our conference, we are the only team that has committed a scholarship to an unranked player (Harris) in 2020 Now we are clamoring for another? Again I couldn’t tell you what makes a player rank 250 vs 400, as it’s probably very subjective. But you are only as good as the company you keep, and when our conference peers aren’t making these moves why are we? Certainly based on recent results we should be trying to emulate them more, not less. Are we resigned to having to get guys who our peer schools wouldn’t touch?
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Post by trillesthoya on Apr 27, 2020 9:39:47 GMT -5
If you watch this kid's tape you can easily see where he ends up high 3*-low 4* after another year in the recruiting cycle... So our staff and this board are the only ones that see this? I get sometimes recruiting can create a “group think” problem where a guy’s status gets inflated, but I also find it hard to believe that they are no other major schools with this “vision” that this kid goes from unranked to 4 star. Recruiting is far too competitive to think every unranked kid we give an offer to is a diamond in the rough and becomes the next Markus Howard. I know morale is low here, but we can’t keep convincing ourselves the talent is better than the rest of college basketball universe thinks. If you look at our conference, we are the only team that has committed a scholarship to an unranked player (Harris) in 2020 Now we are clamoring for another? Again I couldn’t tell you what makes a player rank 250 vs 400, as it’s probably very subjective. But you are only as good as the company you keep, and when our conference peers aren’t making these moves why are we? Certainly based on recent results we should be trying to emulate them more, not less. Are we resigned to having to get guys who our peer schools wouldn’t touch? Difference with House is that he’s still a junior and most of the guys that will end up becoming high three stars/low four stars on these recruiting sites haven’t been evaluated yet. Most sites wait till the AAU season if people are not on major basketball programs since it’s difficult to gauge how their numbers will translate when playing against real players. FWIW you can watch his games against guys like Efton Reid, he seems to play at that level just fine...
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 27, 2020 9:46:57 GMT -5
I have seen enough basketball that I don’t care about rankings. I definitely wanted Murray, but House is not a bad prospect. He has a decent looking stroke from deep and appears to be able to create on his own. Despite rankings, I think Dante Harris will transition smoothly to college, whereas Sibley may struggle early.
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Post by njhoyalawya on Apr 27, 2020 9:47:31 GMT -5
If you watch this kid's tape you can easily see where he ends up high 3*-low 4* after another year in the recruiting cycle... So our staff and this board are the only ones that see this? I get sometimes recruiting can create a “group think” problem where a guy’s status gets inflated, but I also find it hard to believe that they are no other major schools with this “vision” that this kid goes from unranked to 4 star. Recruiting is far too competitive to think every unranked kid we give an offer to is a diamond in the rough and becomes the next Markus Howard. I know morale is low here, but we can’t keep convincing ourselves the talent is better than the rest of college basketball universe thinks. If you look at our conference, we are the only team that has committed a scholarship to an unranked player (Harris) in 2020 Now we are clamoring for another? Again I couldn’t tell you what makes a player rank 250 vs 400, as it’s probably very subjective. But you are only as good as the company you keep, and when our conference peers aren’t making these moves why are we? Certainly based on recent results we should be trying to emulate them more, not less. Are we resigned to having to get guys who our peer schools wouldn’t touch? Playing devil's advocate here, how many times was our staff one of the first to identify talent early (prior to recruiting sites and the blue bloods) and then a kid blows up and we loose out in the end. If we can snag some of these early looks quickly, before the others come around, I am fine with it. I trust in the staff's eye for talent.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Apr 27, 2020 9:51:33 GMT -5
I think the fact that House looks like he is going to reclassify is a big tell in this situation. If the rumors/hope that House is going to commit to Georgetown soon are true, then I think the Hoyas know that Walton is going in a different direction. I really like House and think he will be a really good player, who if he had the chance to play this summer and next year in high school would have been a top 100 recruit in the 2021 class. In his highlights he reminds me a little of LJ Peak, (aggressive/athletic, slasher/scorer). His game is certainly different from Walton, who is considered an elite shooter. I know that House is not as accomplished a shooter as Walton at this point, but that doesn't mean he can not develop that part of his game. Where are you getting that House would have been a Top 100 recruit in the 2021 class? He is presently a 2 Star recruit on most sites that I see and has offers from besides us...Howard, Old Dominion, Mount Saint Mary, etc... I like the look of him but nowhere do I see it being stated he was a top 100 talent if he stayed in the 2021 class... Where are you seeing that he's a 2 star recruit? He doesn't have an ESPN profile, and he's unranked on 247 and Rivals. Verbal Commits has him as a 2 star, but they don't do their own rankings, they aggregate other rankings, so if they list a player as a 2 star that always just means that there's no ranking data available. I'm not arguing that House is a top 100 recruit in the 2021 class, just clarifying that there's a difference between being unranked and being ranked as a 2 star recruit. I'm not sure what his stats were with Team Loaded last summer, but he must not have been on anyone's radar after that. Also keep in mind that last summer was the first summer with the new/difficult summer schedule for live recruiting periods. House seemed to really take off this winter at Middleburg, but most recruiting analysts don't attend minor high school games, which is why some people think if he performed similarly this upcoming summer he would have gotten more attention and gotten evaluated and ranked (no clue where in the rankings).
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Post by hoyas315 on Apr 27, 2020 9:53:05 GMT -5
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Post by tribeninerhoya on Apr 27, 2020 9:56:22 GMT -5
The Twitterverse seems to think that he's now going to Creighton.
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Post by nanman88 on Apr 27, 2020 9:56:37 GMT -5
It'll be great to have an answer at least!
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Post by nychoya96 on Apr 27, 2020 10:04:34 GMT -5
UNC
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Post by Elvado on Apr 27, 2020 10:05:54 GMT -5
Shocking.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 27, 2020 10:09:26 GMT -5
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Post by tupac on Apr 27, 2020 10:22:36 GMT -5
On to the next one
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Apr 27, 2020 10:26:53 GMT -5
Saw this one coming.
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Post by bostonfan on Apr 27, 2020 10:28:07 GMT -5
Give the staff some edit for chasing him hard, but it always seemed like a long shot. Hopefully we see what plan B is soon.
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