njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Jan 20, 2020 14:03:38 GMT -5
Despite improving their record to 20-1 with decisive victories against Santa Clara (104-54) and Brigham Young (92-69), Gonzaga fell from the top spot in this week’s Associated Press Top 25. The Bulldogs are now #2 behind Baylor, which leapfrogged from #2 after wins over Iowa State (68-55) and at Oklahoma State (75-68). Kansas advanced three slots to #3 after road victories at Oklahoma (66-52) and Texas (66-57), San Diego State moved up three slots to #4 with a 64-55 win at California State Fresno and a 68-55 win against Nevada, and Florida State jumped up four slots to #5 with a 54-50 win against Virginia and an 83-79 overtime win at Miami (Florida).
Seton Hall was the biggest gainer this week among last week’s ranked teams, up eight spots to #10 after the Pirates picked up road wins at then-#5 ranked Butler, 78-70, and at St. John’s, 82-79. Auburn had the biggest fall among still ranked teams, dropping twelve slots to #16 after road losses at Alabama, 83-64, and at Florida, 69-47.
Three Big East Conference teams are ranked this week, with Villanova and Butler remaining in the AP Top 25 with Seton Hall. The Wildcats advanced one slot to #9 with wins over DePaul (79-75, in overtime) and Connecticut (61-55), and the Bulldogs fell eight slots to #13 after the loss to then-#18 ranked Seton Hall, and a road loss at DePaul (79-66). Creighton and Marquette received votes in this week’s poll.
Four teams fell out of the rankings this week. Wichita State dropped from #16 after losses at Temple (65-53) and against Houston (65-54); Michigan fell from #19 after road losses at Minnesota (75-67) and Iowa (90-83); Ohio State dropped from #21 after a 80-68 win over Nebraska and a 90-76 loss at Pennsylvania State; Creighton fell from #25 after losing at Georgetown, 83-80, and defeating Providence, 78-74. Replacing them in the AP Top 25 this week are Iowa, Arizona, Rutgers and Houston. The Hawkeyes are #19 after a 75-62 victory at Northwestern and a 90-83 win over Michigan; the Wildcats are #22 after wins over Utah (93-77) and then-#20 ranked Colorado (75-54); the Scarlet Knights are ranked for the first time this season at #24 after victories over Indiana (59-50) and Minnesota (64-56); the Cougars are #25 after a 71-62 win over Southern Methodist and a 65-54 win at Wichita State.
All times listed are Eastern Standard Time. Game results will be updated on a sporadic basis. NOTE: Updated as of 7:45 pm on January 26.
Monday, January 20
BIG EAST CONFERENCE No games scheduled
OUT-OF-CONFERENCE St. Francis (New York) 39 at Mount St. Mary’s 59. Texas 59 at #14 West Virginia 97.
ASSOCIATED PRESS TOP 25 Oklahoma 57 at #1 Baylor 61.
Tuesday, January 21
BIG EAST CONFERENCE #13 Butler 61 at #9 Villanova 76. St. John’s 68 at Marquette 82.
OUT-OF-CONFERENCE Oklahoma State 82 at Iowa State 89. Miami (Florida) 59 at #8 Duke 89.
ASSOCIATED PRESS TOP 25 Georgia 79 at #15 Kentucky 89. #21 Illinois 79 at Purdue 62. Kansas State 60 at #3 Kansas 81. #17 Maryland 77 at Northwestern 66. #18 Texas Tech 54 at Texas Christian 65. Wyoming 55 at #4 San Diego State 72.
Wednesday, January 22
BIG EAST CONFERENCE Georgetown 57 at Xavier 66. Providence 64 at #10 Seton Hall 73 Creighton 83 at DePaul 68.
OUT-OF-CONFERENCE American 93 at Loyola (Maryland) 91, overtime. Maryland Baltimore County 69 at Hartford 60. Pennsylvania State 72 at Michigan 63. Samford 78 at Furman 101. Syracuse 84 at Notre Dame 82 East Carolina 64 at Southern Methodist 84.
ASSOCIATED PRESS TOP 25 Georgia Institute of Technology 64 at #6 Louisville 68. St. Bonaventure 60 at #7 Dayton 86. South Carolina 67 at #16 Auburn 80. #20 Memphis 40 at Tulsa 80. #24 Rutgers 80 at #19 Iowa 85.
Thursday, January 23
BIG EAST CONFERENCE No games scheduled
OUT-OF-CONFERENCE No games scheduled
ASSOCIATED PRESS TOP 25 #11 Michigan State 63 at Indiana 67. Connecticut 59 at #25 Houston 63. Washington State 56 at #23 Colorado 78. Southern California 70 at #12 Oregon 79, overtime.
Friday, January 24
BIG EAST CONFERENCE Marquette 85 at #13 Butler 89, overtime.
OUT-OF-CONFERENCE No games scheduled
ASSOCIATED PRESS TOP 25 No other games scheduled
Saturday, January 25
BIG EAST CONFERENCE #10 Villanova 64 at Providence 60. St. John’s 79 at DePaul 66.
OUT-OF-CONFERENCE Pittsburgh 61 at Syracuse 69. Maine 53 at Maryland Baltimore County 63. Colgate 79 at American 69. Louisiana State 69 at Texas 67. North Carolina Greensboro 70 at Samford 63. Abilene Christian 70 at Central Arkansas 69, overtime. Oklahoma State 73 at Texas A&M 62. Southern Methodist 74 at #20 Memphis 70. Bryant 76 at Mount St. Mary’s 79. Georgia State 82 at Georgia Southern 77.
ASSOCIATED PRESS TOP 25 #21 Illinois 64 at Michigan 62. Iowa State 76 at #16 Auburn 80. Missouri 51 at #14 West Virginia 74. Clemson 62 at #6 Louisville 79. Nebraska 72 at #24 Rutgers 75. Tennessee 68 at #3 Kansas 74. #7 Dayton 87 at Richmond 79. #15 Kentucky 76 at #23 Texas Tech 74, overtime. #1 Baylor 72 at Florida 61. Notre Dame 84 at #5 Florida State 85. Washington 62 at #23 Colorado 76. #22 Arizona 65 at Arizona State 66. Pacific 59 at #2 Gonzaga 92.
Sunday, January 26
BIG EAST CONFERENCE Xavier 66 at Creighton 77.
OUT-OF-CONFERENCE No games scheduled
ASSOCIATED PRESS TOP 25 #17 Maryland 77 at Indiana 76. South Florida 49 at #25 Houston 68. #11 Michigan State 70 at Minnesota 52. #4 San Diego State 71 at Nevada Las Vegas 67. California Los Angeles 75 at #12 Oregon 96.
Monday, January 27
BIG EAST CONFERENCE No games scheduled
OUT-OF-CONFERENCE Lehigh at American, 7:00 pm (CBS Sports Network) #3 Kansas at Oklahoma State, 9:00 pm (ESPN)
ASSOCIATED PRESS TOP 25 Wisconsin at #19 Iowa, 8:30 pm (Big Ten Network)
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madgesiq92
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Post by madgesiq92 on Jan 20, 2020 15:08:04 GMT -5
Rutgers makes their first appearance in top 25 in 41 years. Incredible job by Steve Pikiell in his 4th year at Rutgers taking a perennial doormat to a national ranking. Came from some moderate success at low major Stony Brook and over a team that was 7-25 and 1-17 in Big Ten coached by former NBA coach and Rutgers legend Eddie Jordan that had no recruiting class to speak of. Starting to get NJ talent to stay home - one Four star each the last two years. They had the biggest KenPom move forward last year in Pikiells 3rd year (70 spots) and are a likely tournament team this year.
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Post by NCHoya on Jan 20, 2020 15:43:40 GMT -5
Rutgers makes their first appearance in top 25 in 41 years. Incredible job by Steve Pikiell in his 4th year at Rutgers taking a perennial doormat to a national ranking. Came from some moderate success at low major Stony Brook and over a team that was 7-25 and 1-17 in Big Ten coached by former NBA coach and Rutgers legend Eddie Jordan that had no recruiting class to speak of. Starting to get NJ talent to stay home - one Four star each the last two years. They had the biggest KenPom move forward last year in Pikiells 3rd year (70 spots) and are a likely tournament team this year. I go to their games all the time. Pikiell is a terrific coach and has a clear identity for his team. It is ugly, rebound and physical defense first basketball with an emphasis on length, height and depth at every position. Every game is ugly and a rock fight - perfect for the B1G and hard to watch to be honest. Pike just knows what works for his system and does not deviate. In fact, I am interested to see what happens if he begins to get better recruits because Pike's style is so physical and defense first, not exactly an attractive brand of basketball. The contrast between watching RU and GU could not be more striking for me. When Ewing finally stays consistent with the player he needs for his style, I believe he can find similar success, but he has to be disciplined. Unfortunately, GU will not have the patience like RU had for Pikiell, which can cause bad decisions on player recruitment.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Jan 20, 2020 20:41:49 GMT -5
Texas getting destroyed by West Va...
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 21, 2020 22:07:01 GMT -5
Wild brawl at the end of Kansas - K State game, punches thrown, Kansas player picked up a chair and brandished it before Kansas assistant grabbed him.
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Post by drquigley on Jan 21, 2020 22:20:40 GMT -5
Nova just seems to be getting better. Of course the home arena and crowd helps. I apologize beforehand because I know this has been talked to death but how much better would it be for the school, athletic department, basketball program, alumni and students for us to have an on campus arena similar to Nova's? As bad as we were in the '60's going to a game at McDonough was always a great experience and loads of fun for me and my buddies from 4th and 5th Loyola. Lack of an arena has to hurt student support for the team as well as recruiting and, as a result, the future of the basketball program. Probably this complaint is just another example of my Nova-envy but how can you not be mad that a school like Nova in many ways similar to us but enjoying none of the academic and geographic advantages we have has managed to make our basketball program look pitiful by comparison. Yes I'm jealous and wish there was some way to raise the roof or lower the floor to allow McDonough to accommodate 6,000-6,500 fans. Just venting here.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 21, 2020 22:22:43 GMT -5
Nova just seems to be getting better. Of course the home arena and crowd helps. I apologize beforehand because I know this has been talked to death but how much better would it be for the school, athletic department, basketball program, alumni and students for us to have an on campus arena similar to Nova's? As bad as we were in the '60's going to a game at McDonough was always a great experience and loads of fun for me and my buddies from 4th and 5th Loyola. Lack of an arena has to hurt student support for the team as well as recruiting and, as a result, the future of the basketball program. Probably this complaint is just another example of my Nova-envy but how can you not be mad that a school like Nova in many ways similar to us but enjoying none of the academic and geographic advantages we have has managed to make our basketball program look pitiful by comparison. Yes I'm jealous and wish there was some way to raise the roof or lower the floor to allow McDonough to accommodate 6,000-6,500 fans. Just venting here. Not going to happen. Residents don't want a decent size arena. Why chirp about it.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 21, 2020 22:23:39 GMT -5
Wild brawl at the end of Kansas - K State game, punches thrown, Kansas player picked up a chair and brandished it before Kansas assistant grabbed him. They need to get a heavy ban or it will set a bad precedent and example.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 21, 2020 22:48:43 GMT -5
Nova just seems to be getting better. Of course the home arena and crowd helps. I apologize beforehand because I know this has been talked to death but how much better would it be for the school, athletic department, basketball program, alumni and students for us to have an on campus arena similar to Nova's? As bad as we were in the '60's going to a game at McDonough was always a great experience and loads of fun for me and my buddies from 4th and 5th Loyola. Lack of an arena has to hurt student support for the team as well as recruiting and, as a result, the future of the basketball program. Probably this complaint is just another example of my Nova-envy but how can you not be mad that a school like Nova in many ways similar to us but enjoying none of the academic and geographic advantages we have has managed to make our basketball program look pitiful by comparison. Yes I'm jealous and wish there was some way to raise the roof or lower the floor to allow McDonough to accommodate 6,000-6,500 fans. Just venting here. Not going to happen. Residents don't want a decent size arena. Why chirp about it. Local residents can dictate what renovations Gtown can make to its buildings?
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Post by westendhoya on Jan 21, 2020 23:08:25 GMT -5
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 21, 2020 23:25:30 GMT -5
Wild brawl at the end of Kansas - K State game, punches thrown, Kansas player picked up a chair and brandished it before Kansas assistant grabbed him. They need to get a heavy ban or it will set a bad precedent and example. Personally, I was unimpressed. The Bayi Rockets were tougher.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jan 22, 2020 8:11:26 GMT -5
Nova just seems to be getting better. Of course the home arena and crowd helps. I apologize beforehand because I know this has been talked to death but how much better would it be for the school, athletic department, basketball program, alumni and students for us to have an on campus arena similar to Nova's? As bad as we were in the '60's going to a game at McDonough was always a great experience and loads of fun for me and my buddies from 4th and 5th Loyola. Lack of an arena has to hurt student support for the team as well as recruiting and, as a result, the future of the basketball program. Probably this complaint is just another example of my Nova-envy but how can you not be mad that a school like Nova in many ways similar to us but enjoying none of the academic and geographic advantages we have has managed to make our basketball program look pitiful by comparison. Yes I'm jealous and wish there was some way to raise the roof or lower the floor to allow McDonough to accommodate 6,000-6,500 fans. Just venting here. Not going to happen. Residents don't want a decent size arena. Why chirp about it. Residents can rightly object to construction and parking, but not what is inside a building. Interior renovations do not go before OGB or CFA review. And as long as net square footage is unchanged, it doesn't require zoning approval. There was a proposal 20 years ago to drop the floor at McDonough to accommodate up to 6,000. The problem wasn't (and isn't) the residents . It was (and is) the University--it's not a priority up the hill. Wrote the original donor prospectus to the Multi-Sport Facility: "The Multi-Sport Facility will have a significant immediate impact on Georgetown’s athletic programs and the quality of student life. It will also make possible additional positive changes in the long term.With most locker rooms and Department of Athletics offices housed in the new facility, Georgetown will be able to transform McDonough Gym into a 6,000-seat Convocation Center. The Convocation Center will allow the men’s basketball team to return to campus for home games and will provide a venue for large indoor convocations and graduations. Together, the Multi-Sport Facility and the Convocation Center – as well as renovations to the Kehoe Field and the construction of the track-soccer facility and the boathouse – will give Georgetown the athletic venues it needs to compete in this new century." Had they done this for $20-22 million (the quoted cost), where would we be today? It's not $22 million anymore. www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/archives/archive0400.htmwww.hoyasaxa.com/sports/archives/archive1200.htm#17Here's an overview of the options for McDonough circa 2018: www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/archives/022018.htm
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Post by madgesiq92 on Jan 22, 2020 10:09:04 GMT -5
Nova just seems to be getting better. Of course the home arena and crowd helps. I apologize beforehand because I know this has been talked to death but how much better would it be for the school, athletic department, basketball program, alumni and students for us to have an on campus arena similar to Nova's? As bad as we were in the '60's going to a game at McDonough was always a great experience and loads of fun for me and my buddies from 4th and 5th Loyola. Lack of an arena has to hurt student support for the team as well as recruiting and, as a result, the future of the basketball program. Probably this complaint is just another example of my Nova-envy but how can you not be mad that a school like Nova in many ways similar to us but enjoying none of the academic and geographic advantages we have has managed to make our basketball program look pitiful by comparison. Yes I'm jealous and wish there was some way to raise the roof or lower the floor to allow McDonough to accommodate 6,000-6,500 fans. Just venting here. Went to the Nova - Georgetown game in Philly and I was surprised to see that with respect to the off campus arena student atmosphere, Georgetown student section at Marquette game was far better than Nova student section at Wells Fargo.
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Post by drquigley on Jan 22, 2020 10:53:07 GMT -5
Not going to happen. Residents don't want a decent size arena. Why chirp about it. Residents can rightly object to construction and parking, but not what is inside a building. Interior renovations do not go before OGB or CFA review. And as long as net square footage is unchanged, it doesn't require zoning approval. There was a proposal 20 years ago to drop the floor at McDonough to accommodate up to 6,000. The problem wasn't (and isn't) the residents . It was (and is) the University--it's not a priority up the hill. Wrote the original donor prospectus to the Multi-Sport Facility: "The Multi-Sport Facility will have a significant immediate impact on Georgetown’s athletic programs and the quality of student life. It will also make possible additional positive changes in the long term.With most locker rooms and Department of Athletics offices housed in the new facility, Georgetown will be able to transform McDonough Gym into a 6,000-seat Convocation Center. The Convocation Center will allow the men’s basketball team to return to campus for home games and will provide a venue for large indoor convocations and graduations. Together, the Multi-Sport Facility and the Convocation Center – as well as renovations to the Kehoe Field and the construction of the track-soccer facility and the boathouse – will give Georgetown the athletic venues it needs to compete in this new century." Had they done this for $20-22 million (the quoted cost), where would we be today? It's not $22 million anymore. www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/archives/archive0400.htmwww.hoyasaxa.com/sports/archives/archive1200.htm#17Here's an overview of the options for McDonough circa 2018: www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/archives/022018.htmThanks for the info. Sooner or later McDonough will have to be renovated. Maybe by then (2040?) a major renovation will be considered. Sadly however, beside the fact that I'll be dead, our basketball program may be like that of Fordham and the powers that be may be content to let McDonough remain a relic like Rose Hill gym and the program wallow in mediocrity.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 22, 2020 12:14:35 GMT -5
McDonough is a good size for the Patriot League.
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Post by wrestlemania on Jan 22, 2020 13:00:35 GMT -5
Not going to happen. Residents don't want a decent size arena. Why chirp about it. Residents can rightly object to construction and parking, but not what is inside a building. Interior renovations do not go before OGB or CFA review. And as long as net square footage is unchanged, it doesn't require zoning approval. There was a proposal 20 years ago to drop the floor at McDonough to accommodate up to 6,000. The problem wasn't (and isn't) the residents . It was (and is) the University--it's not a priority up the hill. Wrote the original donor prospectus to the Multi-Sport Facility: "The Multi-Sport Facility will have a significant immediate impact on Georgetown’s athletic programs and the quality of student life. It will also make possible additional positive changes in the long term.With most locker rooms and Department of Athletics offices housed in the new facility, Georgetown will be able to transform McDonough Gym into a 6,000-seat Convocation Center. The Convocation Center will allow the men’s basketball team to return to campus for home games and will provide a venue for large indoor convocations and graduations. Together, the Multi-Sport Facility and the Convocation Center – as well as renovations to the Kehoe Field and the construction of the track-soccer facility and the boathouse – will give Georgetown the athletic venues it needs to compete in this new century." Had they done this for $20-22 million (the quoted cost), where would we be today? It's not $22 million anymore. www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/archives/archive0400.htmwww.hoyasaxa.com/sports/archives/archive1200.htm#17Here's an overview of the options for McDonough circa 2018: www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/archives/022018.htmThis is unfortunate but consistent with what well-placed alumni have told me about the school's commitment to the basketball program independent of John Thompson.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 22, 2020 16:31:43 GMT -5
Residents can rightly object to construction and parking, but not what is inside a building. Interior renovations do not go before OGB or CFA review. And as long as net square footage is unchanged, it doesn't require zoning approval. There was a proposal 20 years ago to drop the floor at McDonough to accommodate up to 6,000. The problem wasn't (and isn't) the residents . It was (and is) the University--it's not a priority up the hill. Wrote the original donor prospectus to the Multi-Sport Facility: "The Multi-Sport Facility will have a significant immediate impact on Georgetown’s athletic programs and the quality of student life. It will also make possible additional positive changes in the long term.With most locker rooms and Department of Athletics offices housed in the new facility, Georgetown will be able to transform McDonough Gym into a 6,000-seat Convocation Center. The Convocation Center will allow the men’s basketball team to return to campus for home games and will provide a venue for large indoor convocations and graduations. Together, the Multi-Sport Facility and the Convocation Center – as well as renovations to the Kehoe Field and the construction of the track-soccer facility and the boathouse – will give Georgetown the athletic venues it needs to compete in this new century." Had they done this for $20-22 million (the quoted cost), where would we be today? It's not $22 million anymore. www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/archives/archive0400.htmwww.hoyasaxa.com/sports/archives/archive1200.htm#17Here's an overview of the options for McDonough circa 2018: www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/archives/022018.htmThis is unfortunate but consistent with what well-placed alumni have told me about the school's commitment to the basketball program independent of John Thompson. Just like Nova, we need an investment banker/entrepreneur/royal to put up the big bucks to get the university moving in the McD renovation direction. I don’t think that if an alum made the approach to the Administration, he/she would be turned down. Right?
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Post by drquigley on Jan 22, 2020 17:31:33 GMT -5
This is unfortunate but consistent with what well-placed alumni have told me about the school's commitment to the basketball program independent of John Thompson. Just like Nova, we need an investment banker/entrepreneur/royal to put up the big bucks to get the university moving in the McD renovation direction. I don’t think that if an alum made the approach to the Administration, he/she would be turned down. Right? Besides the money it would take an enormous commitment of time and energy from the University administrators. They'd have to care as much about the basketball program as we posters do. Sadly, when you are considered an "elite" school charging ridiculous tuition and still turning away 80%(?) of applicants it is hard to spend time and money worrying about basketball. As long as we stay in the BE (or as long as the BE wants us) we will always get as much visibility the school probably wants so why bother.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 22, 2020 18:42:07 GMT -5
Just like Nova, we need an investment banker/entrepreneur/royal to put up the big bucks to get the university moving in the McD renovation direction. I don’t think that if an alum made the approach to the Administration, he/she would be turned down. Right? Besides the money it would take an enormous commitment of time and energy from the University administrators. They'd have to care as much about the basketball program as we posters do. Sadly, when you are considered an "elite" school charging ridiculous tuition and still turning away 80%(?) of applicants it is hard to spend time and money worrying about basketball. As long as we stay in the BE (or as long as the BE wants us) we will always get as much visibility the school probably wants so why bother. But if it was something like the basketball equivalent to the Shaw’s soccer gift, the university wouldn’t take it? I could see it. The investment by the university would be dealing with the neighbors. The money would come from donors.
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Post by drquigley on Jan 22, 2020 23:10:16 GMT -5
Besides the money it would take an enormous commitment of time and energy from the University administrators. They'd have to care as much about the basketball program as we posters do. Sadly, when you are considered an "elite" school charging ridiculous tuition and still turning away 80%(?) of applicants it is hard to spend time and money worrying about basketball. As long as we stay in the BE (or as long as the BE wants us) we will always get as much visibility the school probably wants so why bother. But if it was something like the basketball equivalent to the Shaw’s soccer gift, the university wouldn’t take it? I could see it. The investment by the university would be dealing with the neighbors. The money would come from donors. What the investment by the university would mean is more than dealing with the neighbors. You're taking about thousands of hours of legal work, meetings, hearings, etc. Not sure the university would do that for the basketball program.
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