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Post by cgallstar02 on Jan 1, 2020 18:13:56 GMT -5
LSU seems like a good fit for Leblanc, but Arizona is an interesting choice for James. Yes, Mannion will leave for the NBA at the end of this season, but assuming Brandon Williams is back healthy next season, it's far from a guarantee that James would start over him. James would likely be the first guard off the bench and still get 20-25 mpg, but I can't see how he'd be ok with that given his displeasure here as a starter playing 30+ mpg and the freedom to dominate the ball as much as he liked.
The other alternative would be to start Williams and Akinjo together in the backcourt, but that puts him in the same position he was with Mac... two ball dominators starting in the backcourt together. He's closer to home and the weather will be better, but I'm not sure how he's improved his role/position on a team... his absolute best case scenario would be a similar role as he had at Georgetown, worst case scenario could be 20 mpg and a greatly diminished scoring/ball dominating role. And that's all assuming they don't bring in any more big time recruits at guard. If that happens, it could actually get much worse for him.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 1, 2020 19:34:11 GMT -5
Y'all wanted him Arizona, well you got him!!!!!!!!!!! **)fdafs;ghsah
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Post by iowa80 on Jan 1, 2020 22:36:28 GMT -5
Bottom line: These two guys leaving when they did hurt our program tremendously...had they announced an intent to transfer in the summer or at the end of the year, it would have been totally different...they flat out disrespected Coach Patrick Ewing and Georgetown, and as a result I lost all respect for them...there will always be the Arizonas and LSUs to swoop in like vultures over road kill, but they will still have to carry the baggage of the highly unprofessional circumstances of their departures and the bind it put Coach Ewing in...not to mention that Alexander and Gardner (perhaps innocently) got swept into the mess as well...just the way I see it...move on, get better... Yes, it hurt the program. Maybe they disrespected it--if one assumes the transfers and the issues leading up to those transfers were all on James and Josh. I don't pretend to know enough to condemn them. YMMV.
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Post by iowa80 on Jan 1, 2020 22:37:31 GMT -5
Let's revisit this at the end of next year.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jan 1, 2020 22:38:40 GMT -5
I hope they both find the maturity and strength to eventually take ownership of the huge mistakes they made this year and the tremendous disservice they did to their Georgetown teammates and coaches. I won't be rooting for them but I wish them no ill and I do hope they both learn from their mistakes, becoming better men as a result. What huge mistake did Akinjo make?
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Post by hoya9797 on Jan 1, 2020 22:39:51 GMT -5
Bottom line: These two guys leaving when they did hurt our program tremendously...had they announced an intent to transfer in the summer or at the end of the year, it would have been totally different...they flat out disrespected Coach Patrick Ewing and Georgetown, and as a result I lost all respect for them...there will always be the Arizonas and LSUs to swoop in like vultures over road kill, but they will still have to carry the baggage of the highly unprofessional circumstances of their departures and the bind it put Coach Ewing in...not to mention that Alexander and Gardner (perhaps innocently) got swept into the mess as well...just the way I see it...move on, get better... Unprofessional. Interesting choice of words.
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Post by centercourt400s on Jan 2, 2020 9:56:55 GMT -5
I hope they both find the maturity and strength to eventually take ownership of the huge mistakes they made this year and the tremendous disservice they did to their Georgetown teammates and coaches. I won't be rooting for them but I wish them no ill and I do hope they both learn from their mistakes, becoming better men as a result. What huge mistake did Akinjo make? Should have said mistakeS: - Not running the offense the way his coach wanted - Not sharing the ball adequately - Most of all, leaving his team in mid-season What he SHOULD have done was listen to his coaches and play like a proper point guard. What he COULD have done was try his best, play like a good teammate and play out the season, then if he was still unhappy, announce the transfer (which would have still sucked but would have been a far better approach). What he DID do was abandon his teammates and coaches mid-season, which in my opinion was a major betrayal and a horrible way to handle the situation.
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Post by kbones17 on Jan 2, 2020 10:03:36 GMT -5
Bottom line: These two guys leaving when they did hurt our program tremendously...had they announced an intent to transfer in the summer or at the end of the year, it would have been totally different...they flat out disrespected Coach Patrick Ewing and Georgetown, and as a result I lost all respect for them...there will always be the Arizonas and LSUs to swoop in like vultures over road kill, but they will still have to carry the baggage of the highly unprofessional circumstances of their departures and the bind it put Coach Ewing in...not to mention that Alexander and Gardner (perhaps innocently) got swept into the mess as well...just the way I see it...move on, get better... Unprofessional. Interesting choice of words. Them leaving and joining another team mid season is actually one of the biggest indicators of how they are not professionals.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 10:12:28 GMT -5
Unprofessional. Interesting choice of words. Them leaving and joining another team mid season is actually one of the biggest indicators of how they are not professionals. The fact they are not professionals is actually the biggest indicator that they are not professionals. I get the sentiment - but they're still kids, even if they're 20 or so. And I'd assume they are a lot more "professional" than i (and most college kids?) was at that age.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 2, 2020 11:17:09 GMT -5
While some of us may have had a few drunken nights at the the pub, I don’t believe any on the board were accused of theft, physical threats or violating restraining orders against female students.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 2, 2020 11:31:51 GMT -5
One of the more surprising moments of the college season thus far was the transfers of James Akinjo and Josh Leblanc. The supposed keystone pieces to Patrick Ewing’s first class at Georgetown, they were expected to be the two most reliable producers for the Hoyas. Despite their departures, the Hoyas have looked great and look to be on the proper path to a return to the NCAA Tournament. While the Hoyas have moved forward since their transfers, Akinjo and Leblanc have also found suitable landing spots. Akinjo, headed to Arizona, will likely be the replacement for Nico Mannion after this season. I could see Akinjo and Brandon Williams, who is recovering from a torn ACL, being one of the more deadly groups nationally next year. Leblanc is a do-it-all forward that can defend all over the floor, rebound at a high rate and compete with a consistent motor. This sort of playing style should fit in seamlessly at LSU and Leblanc could be the ideal replacement for Emmitt Williams if heformer five-star decides to test his hand at the NBA in the spring. basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/three-point-play-race-for-no-1-tyrin-lawrence-georgetown-transfers
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 2, 2020 12:59:30 GMT -5
I guess there's been no word on Alexander or Gardner thus far?
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Post by drquigley on Jan 2, 2020 13:51:58 GMT -5
Don't they have to sit out a year? If not it explains why they left now but doesn't excuse them leaving the program and their teammates in the lurch.
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Post by iowa80 on Jan 2, 2020 14:19:37 GMT -5
Don't they have to sit out a year? If not it explains why they left now but doesn't excuse them leaving the program and their teammates in the lurch. They should be able to play second semester next year.
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Post by jwp91 on Jan 2, 2020 14:34:43 GMT -5
While some of us may have had a few drunken nights at the the pub, I don’t believe any on the board were accused of theft, physical threats or violating restraining orders against female students. So you may not be aware that many places now say that an inebriated female is unable to give consent for sex. I am not sure many of my classmates were bad guys persay, but I think many would not meet that standard if applied back then. With such high stakes (I.e. rape), I don’t see threats and TROs as unexpected escalations. THe rules for conduct are much different today than they were In the past..
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Post by bornhoya on Jan 2, 2020 15:22:17 GMT -5
I’m not mad at any of the guys anymore, only one I was really mad at was James but what if playing here took the love he had for basketball away and the UNCG game looked like a guy who just out there to be out. So if leaving at the end of the semester was the best thing for him, at the end of the day isn’t he supposed to do what makes him comfortable. I know it sucks for our team but it seems like a weight has been lifted off everyone’s shoulders and for the other three it seems like they had no choice but to leave. We already have posters on this board who says there bad guys and will get in trouble and plus the thing with the professors, would you stay at a place where they think of you like that? I think Josh is going to thrive in the wide open LSU system, I can Myron going to a lower level D1 school like Detroit Mercy. The one that I think will have a problem landing somewhere is Galen, he would have to go low level D1 or maybe even D2. Really wish he would just come back but that petition by the professors my be too much to overcome
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Post by drquigley on Jan 2, 2020 15:31:08 GMT -5
I’m not mad at any of the guys anymore, only one I was really mad at was James but what if playing here took the love he had for basketball away and the UNCG game looked like a guy who just out there to be out. So if leaving at the end of the semester was the best thing for him, at the end of the day isn’t he supposed to do what makes him comfortable. I know it sucks for our team but it seems like a weight has been lifted off everyone’s shoulders and for the other three it seems like they had no choice but to leave. We already have posters on this board who says there bad guys and will get in trouble and plus the thing with the professors, would you stay at a place where they think of you like that? I think Josh is going to thrive in the wide open LSU system, I can Myron going to a lower level D1 school like Detroit Mercy. The one that I think will have a problem landing somewhere is Galen, he would have to go low level D1 or maybe even D2. Really wish he would just come back but that petition by the professors my be too much to overcome What petition by the professors?
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Post by drquigley on Jan 2, 2020 15:45:03 GMT -5
While some of us may have had a few drunken nights at the the pub, I don’t believe any on the board were accused of theft, physical threats or violating restraining orders against female students. So you may not be aware that many places now say that an inebriated female is unable to give consent for sex. I am not sure many of my classmates were bad guys persay, but I think many would not meet that standard if applied back then. With such high stakes (I.e. rape), I don’t see threats and TROs as unexpected escalations. THe rules for conduct are much different today than they were In the past.. Okay children gather round and let gramps tell you what a game at McDonough was like 50 years ago. The middle section of the bleachers facing the team benches was called "The Animal Section". Only men were allowed to sit there. If a young woman tried to sit in it she would be verbally harassed until she (and her date) left. And if a blonde walked by the sectionwe would scream in unison, "Her hair came out of a bottle". If we disliked a play or a refs call someone would take off his socks, start waving them and the section would scream, "AU Socks!". Or when playing Navy we would scream, "Shoot the seamen". And of course there was Sheridan. Usually, sometime during the second half he would start screaming in German. Eventually the gym would get quiet and he would go on a quasi Nazi rant at the end of which the Animal Section would scream, "Sieg Heil" and give a Nazi salute. This eventually stopped when the NY press heard about it after a home game against NYU. Yes my children times have changed. And take it from an ageing boomer with a wife and daughter, it's about time.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 2, 2020 16:08:10 GMT -5
I’m not mad at any of the guys anymore, only one I was really mad at was James but what if playing here took the love he had for basketball away and the UNCG game looked like a guy who just out there to be out. So if leaving at the end of the semester was the best thing for him, at the end of the day isn’t he supposed to do what makes him comfortable. I know it sucks for our team but it seems like a weight has been lifted off everyone’s shoulders and for the other three it seems like they had no choice but to leave. We already have posters on this board who says there bad guys and will get in trouble and plus the thing with the professors, would you stay at a place where they think of you like that? I think Josh is going to thrive in the wide open LSU system, I can Myron going to a lower level D1 school like Detroit Mercy. The one that I think will have a problem landing somewhere is Galen, he would have to go low level D1 or maybe even D2. Really wish he would just come back but that petition by the professors my be too much to overcome What petition by the professors? Here ya go, fellow boomer! georgetownvoice.com/2019/12/13/faculty-letter-calls-for-transparency-reform-in-student-conduct-proceedings/
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Post by TC on Jan 2, 2020 16:41:45 GMT -5
I’m not mad at any of the guys anymore, only one I was really mad at was James but what if playing here took the love he had for basketball away and the UNCG game looked like a guy who just out there to be out. So if leaving at the end of the semester was the best thing for him, at the end of the day isn’t he supposed to do what makes him comfortable. I know it sucks for our team but it seems like a weight has been lifted off everyone’s shoulders and for the other three it seems like they had no choice but to leave. We already have posters on this board who says there bad guys and will get in trouble and plus the thing with the professors, would you stay at a place where they think of you like that? I think Josh is going to thrive in the wide open LSU system, I can Myron going to a lower level D1 school like Detroit Mercy. The one that I think will have a problem landing somewhere is Galen, he would have to go low level D1 or maybe even D2. Really wish he would just come back but that petition by the professors my be too much to overcome It's amazing to me that five minutes after the transfer announcement, Galen Alexander is out on Twitter attacking one of the women by name, probably violating one of the restraining orders in the process, and people think that even though another school won't touch him with a ten foot pole, it'd be a good idea to have him back because he wears some Georgetown gear on instagram.
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