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Post by Elvado on Apr 7, 2020 5:52:20 GMT -5
I thought Sean Miller gave Akinjo the keys to the car. The car (probably a loaded Escalade)—yes. Playing time—not so much
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Post by bostonfan on Apr 7, 2020 7:19:51 GMT -5
I thought Sean Miller gave Akinjo the keys to the car. How long will it be until James, or his uncle, come out and say that he feels like he has been disrespected by the staff bringing in another player that he will need to share playing time with? Maybe the staff at Arizona has figured out that James is going to play the way James wants to play and not always the way the staff wants to play, and they have decided they need an option that will execute the game plan the coaching staff has come up with. There clearly was some type of issue between James and Mac last year, or atleast James perceived there was an issue, but he got a really long leash from the Georgetown staff and played a lot of minutes. Going to be tough to impress the NBA scouts if your sitting on the bench for half of the game.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 7, 2020 7:37:43 GMT -5
I thought Sean Miller gave Akinjo the keys to the car. How long will it be until James, or his uncle, come out and say that he feels like he has been disrespected by the staff bringing in another player that he will need to share playing time with? Maybe the staff at Arizona has figured out that James is going to play the way James wants to play and not always the way the staff wants to play, and they have decided they need an option that will execute the game plan the coaching staff has come up with. There clearly was some type of issue between James and Mac last year, or atleast James perceived there was an issue, but he got a really long leash from the Georgetown staff and played a lot of minutes. Going to be tough to impress the NBA scouts if your sitting on the bench for half of the game. Ewing was extra patient with Akinjo understanding his upbringing and where he came from but in the end it penalized Ewing by costing us the season and possibly the program. I think that patience and understanding by Ewing let Akinjo become more and more subversive to the point where he was able to pull 3 other guys to follow him out of the program and nobody expected that to happen. You could see it freshmen year where Akinjo wouldn't buy into the huddle during TOs or openly ignored Ewing's instructions out there on the court. Worst case scenario I think the thinking was that if he was insubordinate or decided to leave the program that they had the insurance plan with Terrell Allen. Sean Miller on the other hand I can't see him put up with any of Akinjo's antics. That's not Miller's personality.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Apr 7, 2020 8:25:09 GMT -5
How long will it be until James, or his uncle, come out and say that he feels like he has been disrespected by the staff bringing in another player that he will need to share playing time with? Maybe the staff at Arizona has figured out that James is going to play the way James wants to play and not always the way the staff wants to play, and they have decided they need an option that will execute the game plan the coaching staff has come up with. There clearly was some type of issue between James and Mac last year, or atleast James perceived there was an issue, but he got a really long leash from the Georgetown staff and played a lot of minutes. Going to be tough to impress the NBA scouts if your sitting on the bench for half of the game. Ewing was extra patient with Akinjo understanding his upbringing and where he came from but in the end it penalized Ewing by costing us the season and possibly the program. I think that patience and understanding by Ewing let Akinjo become more and more subversive to the point where he was able to pull 3 other guys to follow him out of the program and nobody expected that to happen. You could see it freshmen year where Akinjo wouldn't buy into the huddle during TOs or openly ignored Ewing's instructions out there on the court. Worst case scenario I think the thinking was that if he was insubordinate or decided to leave the program that they had the insurance plan with Terrell Allen. Sean Miller on the other hand I can't see him put up with any of Akinjo's antics. That's not Miller's personality. I’m pretty sure Akinjo had very little to do with Josh LeBlanc Sr, Galen Alexander, and Myron Gardner leaving the program.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 7, 2020 9:36:21 GMT -5
Ewing was extra patient with Akinjo understanding his upbringing and where he came from but in the end it penalized Ewing by costing us the season and possibly the program. I think that patience and understanding by Ewing let Akinjo become more and more subversive to the point where he was able to pull 3 other guys to follow him out of the program and nobody expected that to happen. You could see it freshmen year where Akinjo wouldn't buy into the huddle during TOs or openly ignored Ewing's instructions out there on the court. Worst case scenario I think the thinking was that if he was insubordinate or decided to leave the program that they had the insurance plan with Terrell Allen. Sean Miller on the other hand I can't see him put up with any of Akinjo's antics. That's not Miller's personality. I’m pretty sure Akinjo had very little to do with Josh LeBlanc Sr, Galen Alexander, and Myron Gardner leaving the program. Disagree. I think the other 3 would have stayed had Akinjo not decided to leave or if Akinjo was already gone from the team during the summer. Akinjo was never happy being here. The other 3 were but just got embroiled in false accusations that eventually were proven false. So they would have been playing by Big East play.
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 7, 2020 10:41:47 GMT -5
I’m pretty sure Akinjo had very little to do with Josh LeBlanc Sr, Galen Alexander, and Myron Gardner leaving the program. Disagree. I think the other 3 would have stayed had Akinjo not decided to leave or if Akinjo was already gone from the team during the summer. Akinjo was never happy being here. The other 3 were but just got embroiled in false accusations that eventually were proven false. So they would have been playing by Big East play. From someone who has more insight into the situation than you, this is not correct. And it’s rude to suggest that the three other young men couldn’t make their own decisions. It’s cool if you have an educated hunch or are working off facts, but you’re squarely in “concocting a narrative” territory. James could’ve tried to poison the well, surely. But it’s not Ewing’s patience that emboldened Akinjo’s ability to pull other players out of the program or whatever baselessness you’re trying to suggest...
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 7, 2020 15:56:55 GMT -5
The moment he waived off Ewing in the game to do his own thing was the beginning of the end. Can’t recover from that level of disrespect.
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 7, 2020 16:50:49 GMT -5
The moment he waived off Ewing in the game to do his own thing was the beginning of the end. Can’t recover from that level of disrespect. Truth is he did come back from that lack of judgment, Akinjo was great against Marquette the 2nd time around last season...
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 7, 2020 18:00:09 GMT -5
Pops would of had non of that. 🙂
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 7, 2020 21:57:16 GMT -5
I’m pretty sure Akinjo had very little to do with Josh LeBlanc Sr, Galen Alexander, and Myron Gardner leaving the program. Disagree. I think the other 3 would have stayed had Akinjo not decided to leave or if Akinjo was already gone from the team during the summer. Akinjo was never happy being here. The other 3 were but just got embroiled in false accusations that eventually were proven false. So they would have been playing by Big East play. Not sure your statement is accurate. There was definitely plenty of smoke with regard to the players in question....you’re right, didn’t necessarily have to lead to their transfer. With regard to Akinjo transferring...it all had to do with whether Josh was leaving. Once Josh decided to move on...Akinjo decided the same day that he would as well. They were best friends.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 8, 2020 12:49:58 GMT -5
Disagree. I think the other 3 would have stayed had Akinjo not decided to leave or if Akinjo was already gone from the team during the summer. Akinjo was never happy being here. The other 3 were but just got embroiled in false accusations that eventually were proven false. So they would have been playing by Big East play. Not sure your statement is accurate. There was definitely plenty of smoke with regard to the players in question....you’re right, didn’t necessarily have to lead to their transfer. With regard to Akinjo transferring...it all had to do with whether Josh was leaving. Once Josh decided to move on...Akinjo decided the same day that he would as well. They were best friends. We would have had quite a team if everyone had stayed and been on the same page. Would have gone far in the tournament but the irony is that team would have still been a what could've been since Corona took over and we would be in Dayton fan's position. It just wasn't meant to be this year.
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 8, 2020 16:39:09 GMT -5
Not sure your statement is accurate. There was definitely plenty of smoke with regard to the players in question....you’re right, didn’t necessarily have to lead to their transfer. With regard to Akinjo transferring...it all had to do with whether Josh was leaving. Once Josh decided to move on...Akinjo decided the same day that he would as well. They were best friends. We would have had quite a team if everyone had stayed and been on the same page. Would have gone far in the tournament but the irony is that team would have still been a what could've been since Corona took over and we would be in Dayton fan's position. It just wasn't meant to be this year. Yeah, that team that lost to UNC Greensboro really looked like they were going places.
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 8, 2020 17:00:11 GMT -5
Looking back, the player we missed most in my mind was Josh. Allen may have been the better point guard for this team that Akinjo. In a perfect world, it would have been nice to see how a healthy team of Allen, Mosely, Mac, Blair, jamarko, Josh, Omer and Q would have done. My guess is pretty well.
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Post by prhoya on Apr 8, 2020 17:55:42 GMT -5
Looking back, the player we missed most in my mind was Josh. Allen may have been the better point guard for this team that Akinjo. In a perfect world, it would have been nice to see how a healthy team of Allen, Mosely, Mac, Blair, jamarko, Josh, Omer and Q would have done. My guess is pretty well. Pat should have benched Akinjo for one game before the Duke game. Who knows what his reaction (or his uncle's) would have been, but he was playing one-vs-one with the opponents' best guards trying to show he was the best, instead of playing team ball. A benching could have worked or would have accelerated his departure, but the selfish play had to be stopped. It'll be interesting to see how Akinjo handles Arizona.
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Post by jester on Apr 8, 2020 18:10:02 GMT -5
Looking back, the player we missed most in my mind was Josh. Allen may have been the better point guard for this team that Akinjo. In a perfect world, it would have been nice to see how a healthy team of Allen, Mosely, Mac, Blair, jamarko, Josh, Omer and Q would have done. My guess is pretty well. Don’t think he would have made a huge difference if Mac and Omer were injured like they were though. That and not making any outside shots a lot of games/ inconsistent selection/ TOs killed us with a tired team. I don’t think Josh resolves those. But yes healthy would be interesting. Was really tough to judge this year.
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Post by Elvado on Apr 8, 2020 18:16:34 GMT -5
Assuming the season starts as usual, Arizona's January games will be must see. The unnamed point guard having watched someone else start for the first 10 games or so, will play with his hair on fire and make Moneybags Miller crazy.
I predict he is one season at Arizona.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 8, 2020 18:26:13 GMT -5
Wait until the uncle berates Miller on Twitter.
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 8, 2020 18:26:47 GMT -5
We would have had quite a team if everyone had stayed and been on the same page. Would have gone far in the tournament but the irony is that team would have still been a what could've been since Corona took over and we would be in Dayton fan's position. It just wasn't meant to be this year. Yeah, that team that lost to UNC Greensboro really looked like they were going places. You’re so right. The team wouldn’t have improved at all (even though it literally did in real life).
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 8, 2020 18:27:53 GMT -5
Looking back, the player we missed most in my mind was Josh. Allen may have been the better point guard for this team that Akinjo. In a perfect world, it would have been nice to see how a healthy team of Allen, Mosely, Mac, Blair, jamarko, Josh, Omer and Q would have done. My guess is pretty well. Don’t think he would have made a huge difference if Mac and Omer were injured like they were though. That and not making any outside shots a lot of games/ inconsistent selection/ TOs killed us with a tired team. I don’t think Josh resolves those. But yes healthy would be interesting. Was really tough to judge this year. Well we we tired because we lacked bodies. Josh has enough energy for three starters.
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Post by hoyazeke on Apr 8, 2020 18:49:24 GMT -5
We would have had quite a team if everyone had stayed and been on the same page. Would have gone far in the tournament but the irony is that team would have still been a what could've been since Corona took over and we would be in Dayton fan's position. It just wasn't meant to be this year. Yeah, that team that lost to UNC Greensboro really looked like they were going places. Does 97 mean that you graduated in 97? If so you are much to young to be so bad at reading. The 1st sentence says "...been on the same page"....yes they looked bad but that's because they were only on the same page for 1 game...(Texas)...
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