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Post by hoyalove4ever on Dec 12, 2019 13:38:50 GMT -5
The Program and Blue chip..show the life of College athletes getting recruited.. Think of all of the Neon Badoes, Butch McRaes, and Ricky Roes we missed out on over the years by "following the rules..." Also, lack of "assistant coaches" in the He Got Game style...
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Post by rhw485 on Dec 12, 2019 14:14:15 GMT -5
now that his has devolved into a sports movie thread...While this is not a "good" sports movie, it definitely wasnt dusty in the theater when I saw the Sixth Man. And then they had the nerve to injure the Iverson-equivalent for Georgetown in the Final Four!
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Post by SDHoya on Dec 12, 2019 19:06:13 GMT -5
Or, ya know, its possible Ewing looked at his roster, thought it was really good and just needed some veteran savvy to round it out, and also was concerned that Akinjo needed some cover at the point considering he played 30+ minutes per game last season. And Allen was interested because he's from the area, liked Ewing and believed he would have an important role to play on a team on the rise in a major conference. No reason for silly conspiracies that Ewing "knew" that Akinjo was going to leave--according to this theory Ewing's sell to Allen was that he would get lots of playing time because Akinjo would vanish mid-season... Come on. I never said that Coach Ewing knew Akinjo was going to leave. I stated he knew he needed a starting caliber veteran/seasoned PG, whether it was to help in the further development of Akinjo or to give team another a very good option when Akinjo isn't playing smart basketball or both. Last season the team had no real option other then Akinjo at PG. If Coach Ewing is a hundred percent sold on Akinjo, he looks to bring in a high school PG to develop under Akinjo as a long term option. Coach Ewing deals with players on a day to day basis. Who knows how many times he and Akinjo bumped heads last season. Apologies, I may have read too much between the lines here. I think other posters have gone a bit further in implying that Ewing's recruitment of Allen was based on his supposed knowledge that Akinjo was on his way out--and that was really what I was replying to.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Dec 13, 2019 7:13:23 GMT -5
Regardless of the original motivation, bringing in Allen was a smart and potentially season-saving move.
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Post by jwp91 on Dec 13, 2019 8:20:34 GMT -5
Regardless of the original motivation, bringing in Allen was a smart and potentially season-saving move. It really was. I think everyone forced the Mackinjo theme...because it had to work for the Hoyas to be successful with that model, but it didn't. Part of me is upset that Akinjo left mid-season. Part of me is grateful that he spared us the pain of continued poor play in a season in which the HOYAS must absolutely take as a step forward. By the way Ranch Dressing, I owe you some frosty beverages. If Ewing's initial plan of a deep rotation had worked, then I believe both Akinjo and Mac would have averaged fewer than 30 minutes. Akinjo finished just above with an average of 30.7. Mac is at 24.0 but he is certain to finish above if he can stay on the court.
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 13, 2019 9:01:13 GMT -5
Snothead On Georgetown: “They are ten times they team they were with a point guard that shot all the time. They beat Oklahoma State, although they didn’t have their point guard, and SMU, who was undefeated. They are a veteran team that has played a lot of basketball….They are playing very well."
I think the interesting thing is all the coaches who are scouting our team and reviewing all the game footage are realizing from watching the footage with JA and post JA how dramatically different the team is.
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Post by hoyaboya on Dec 13, 2019 14:13:44 GMT -5
Georgetown transfer James Akinjo will take an official visit to Arizona this weekend, multiple sources told 247Sports. Akinjo, a 6-foot-1, 185-pound point guard, opted to transfer and was entered into the NCAA Transfer Portal on December 2nd. The trip to Arizona is Akinjo’s first college visit since his transfer was his announced. Arguably the best transfer on the market, Akinjo averaged 13.4 points, 4.4. assists and 3.0 rebounds through seven games this season. Akinjo was the Big East’s Freshman of the Year last year, after averaging 13.4 points and 5.2 assist a game. 247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/James-Akinjo-Arizona-Visit-Georgetown-Transfer-140407165/
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 13, 2019 14:44:02 GMT -5
ok alwayas hoyas forever. Wish them well We will never know what really happened butwish them well go all hoyas past present and FUTURE gotta wanna a hoya FAMILIA right Ryan@
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Post by AltoSaxa on Dec 13, 2019 15:43:30 GMT -5
No. Not “always a Hoya forever.”
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Post by blueandgray on Dec 13, 2019 18:08:47 GMT -5
Arizona makes perfect sense ...doesn’t it?
My guess for Alexander and Leblanc are SEC schools....although come to think of it....Alexander may have already burnt that bridge as well.
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 13, 2019 18:59:45 GMT -5
Arizona makes perfect sense ...doesn’t it? My guess for Alexander and Leblanc are SEC schools....although come to think of it....Alexander may have already burnt that bridge as well. Alexander's in a really bad spot. He's had incidents at 2 different big schools now. He should have known better than to involve himself in the current situation since from the sounds of it this all started because of one incident with one player and then the other 2 players got sucked into it trying to defend the first player.
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Post by vv83 on Dec 13, 2019 21:11:19 GMT -5
Arizona makes perfect sense ...doesn’t it? My guess for Alexander and Leblanc are SEC schools....although come to think of it....Alexander may have already burnt that bridge as well. Alexander's in a really bad spot. He's had incidents at 2 different big schools now. He should have known better than to involve himself in the current situation since from the sounds of it this all started because of one incident with one player and then the other 2 players got sucked into it trying to defend the first player. Plus I think Alexander needs to sit out until next January, and then he'll just have the spring 2021 semester left in terms of eligibility. I'm sure he'll ask for some kind of waiver based on the whole legal situation, but that feels like a stretch. If he ends up not being found responsible of any of the charges in the legal system, maybe he'll be able to make a case to get another full season? But if not - he is in a bad situation in terms of his remaining eligibility.
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Post by cgallstar02 on Dec 13, 2019 23:23:37 GMT -5
Georgetown transfer James Akinjo will take an official visit to Arizona this weekend, multiple sources told 247Sports. Akinjo, a 6-foot-1, 185-pound point guard, opted to transfer and was entered into the NCAA Transfer Portal on December 2nd. The trip to Arizona is Akinjo’s first college visit since his transfer was his announced. Arguably the best transfer on the market, Akinjo averaged 13.4 points, 4.4. assists and 3.0 rebounds through seven games this season. Akinjo was the Big East’s Freshman of the Year last year, after averaging 13.4 points and 5.2 assist a game. 247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/James-Akinjo-Arizona-Visit-Georgetown-Transfer-140407165/It'll be interesting to see if he chooses Arizona. Given his issues at Georgetown, a smaller school would make more sense. While Mannion is expected to leave for the NBA Draft, they also have another PG named Brandon Williams who was ranked #32 overall the same year Akinjo came out, and had a pretty good freshman season. He had knee surgery this year so is sitting out, but should be back next season. Assuming he's fully healthy, there's no guarantees James would even start over him, or if they start both of them in the backcourt together, he would essentially be right back in the same situation he was with McClung.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Dec 13, 2019 23:48:59 GMT -5
Georgetown transfer James Akinjo will take an official visit to Arizona this weekend, multiple sources told 247Sports. Akinjo, a 6-foot-1, 185-pound point guard, opted to transfer and was entered into the NCAA Transfer Portal on December 2nd. The trip to Arizona is Akinjo’s first college visit since his transfer was his announced. Arguably the best transfer on the market, Akinjo averaged 13.4 points, 4.4. assists and 3.0 rebounds through seven games this season. Akinjo was the Big East’s Freshman of the Year last year, after averaging 13.4 points and 5.2 assist a game. 247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/James-Akinjo-Arizona-Visit-Georgetown-Transfer-140407165/It'll be interesting to see if he chooses Arizona. Given his issues at Georgetown, a smaller school would make more sense. While Mannion is expected to leave for the NBA Draft, they also have another PG named Brandon Williams who was ranked #32 overall the same year Akinjo came out, and had a pretty good freshman season. He had knee surgery this year so is sitting out, but should be back next season. Assuming he's fully healthy, there's no guarantees James would even start over him, or if they start both of them in the backcourt together, he would essentially be right back in the same situation he was with McClung. I think he ends up in the WCC at Gonzaga or St. Mary's. I believe both have wholes at the PG position that needs to be filled. Arizona campus and lifestyle can be quite tempting though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 10:42:46 GMT -5
I can't believe nobody said "The Fish that Saved Pittsburgh."
Oh... we're not doing that anymore??
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Post by mdtd on Dec 14, 2019 11:06:13 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see if he chooses Arizona. Given his issues at Georgetown, a smaller school would make more sense. While Mannion is expected to leave for the NBA Draft, they also have another PG named Brandon Williams who was ranked #32 overall the same year Akinjo came out, and had a pretty good freshman season. He had knee surgery this year so is sitting out, but should be back next season. Assuming he's fully healthy, there's no guarantees James would even start over him, or if they start both of them in the backcourt together, he would essentially be right back in the same situation he was with McClung. I think he ends up in the WCC at Gonzaga or St. Mary's. I believe both have wholes at the PG position that needs to be filled. Arizona campus and lifestyle can be quite tempting though. St. Mary's for him seems like a bad fit. They play a very slow style of play and are focused on defense. They do need a guard who can lead an offense, but they play super slow. Jordan Ford is that guy now, but his play style is super calm and methodical. Akinjo's just isn't. I don't see a good fit there.
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 14, 2019 11:58:54 GMT -5
I think he ends up in the WCC at Gonzaga or St. Mary's. I believe both have wholes at the PG position that needs to be filled. Arizona campus and lifestyle can be quite tempting though. St. Mary's for him seems like a bad fit. They play a very slow style of play and are focused on defense. They do need a guard who can lead an offense, but they play super slow. Jordan Ford is that guy now, but his play style is super calm and methodical. Akinjo's just isn't. I don't see a good fit there. Actually I think a slower pace suits Akinjo, he was a terrible transition player in his time @ Gtown, also he’s not overly athletic either... Plus Ford takes a lot of shots for St. Mary’s which should be appealing to Akinjo...
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Dec 14, 2019 16:39:54 GMT -5
I think he ends up in the WCC at Gonzaga or St. Mary's. I believe both have wholes at the PG position that needs to be filled. Arizona campus and lifestyle can be quite tempting though. St. Mary's for him seems like a bad fit. They play a very slow style of play and are focused on defense. They do need a guard who can lead an offense, but they play super slow. Jordan Ford is that guy now, but his play style is super calm and methodical. Akinjo's just isn't. I don't see a good fit there. You make some good points about St. Mary's. They do play a very slow and structured style that seem like it would be a tough adjustment for Akinjo. Jordan Ford does put up numbers and Akinjo would be the man at St. Mary's like Ford is. I looked at St. Mary's and Gonzaga as programs Akinjo could step right in at the PG. Arizona has a PG on the roster (Although he's injured right now) that's in the same class as Akinjo and it doesn't seem as if his people want another co-star next to him in the backcourt. Also Arizona will always be in the market for one & done players so there is the possibility of even a more crowded backcourt there in the future.
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Post by smokeyjack on Dec 14, 2019 16:44:33 GMT -5
No. Not “always a Hoya forever.” Correct. Not a Hoya. Dude abandoned his teammates. Adios.
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Post by hoya1984 on Dec 14, 2019 17:28:49 GMT -5
Just finished listening to coach Jim Boeheim indictment of Akinjo and supporting coach Ewing.
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