DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 1, 2020 10:08:08 GMT -5
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NCHoya
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Post by NCHoya on Mar 1, 2020 10:27:20 GMT -5
Wasn't the decision to reign in our alpha PG why that player decided to transfer? I guess some coaches are better at player management than others if that's the case. As much as I have been critical of Ewing, I am not sure this comparison is entirely fair. Pipkins is a grad transfer with no option to leave. Cooley had all the leverage to make a move like that, which was the right call. Our guy was a young sophomore from the West coast. It was not going to take much for him to leave if he was not getting his way. But your point is well-taken, an unproven coach cannot get away with treating players the way coaches did in the old days.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 1, 2020 10:52:03 GMT -5
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Post by prhoya on Mar 1, 2020 11:42:14 GMT -5
He played 37 minutes vs Providence. đ
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Post by hoyainla on Mar 1, 2020 11:45:56 GMT -5
I guess some coaches are better at player management than others if that's the case. As much as I have been critical of Ewing, I am not sure this comparison is entirely fair. Pipkins is a grad transfer with no option to leave. Cooley had all the leverage to make a move like that, which was the right call. Our guy was a young sophomore from the West coast. It was not going to take much for him to leave if he was not getting his way. But your point is well-taken, an unproven coach cannot get away with treating players the way coaches did in the old days. I agree and my answer was a little tongue in cheek. The fact is that the Providence and our situation were very similar and they came out of it very well and we had a lost season and likely another one. The Ewing fan club will blame the players and this will all just keep going in a circle. The fact is when you pick your players at some point the finger has to point at you. For some on here that will never happen. We saw that with JT3. He had support until the very end. As others have mentioned we basically punted how ever many seasons it takes as Pat learns how to coach in college. It was a terrible idea in retrospect but now we have to hope he finally has figured it out. I had some worries about Pat coming in to coach but one of them was not how to deal with the new generation since he was dealing with them in the NBA. Granted those had already made it and were not the âbig guys on campusâ on their NBA teams. The crazy part is he seems to be very tough on them but when it comes time to make actual adjustments he takes forever or never does them. Itâs like his bark is worse than his bite. We will never know why James ultimately left. Maybe it was that he finally was getting benched but I donât believe that so there is no use is arguing it any more.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 1, 2020 12:01:45 GMT -5
I agree and my answer was a little tongue in cheek. The fact is that the Providence and our situation were very similar and they came out of it very well and we had a lost season and likely another one. The Ewing fan club will blame the players and this will all just keep going in a circle. The fact is when you pick your players at some point the finger has to point at you. For some on here that will never happen. We saw that with JT3. He had support until the very end. As others have mentioned we basically punted how ever many seasons it takes as Pat learns how to coach in college. It was a terrible idea in retrospect but now we have to hope he finally has figured it out. I had some worries about Pat coming in to coach but one of them was not how to deal with the new generation since he was dealing with them in the NBA. Granted those had already made it and were not the âbig guys on campusâ on their NBA teams. The crazy part is he seems to be very tough on them but when it comes time to make actual adjustments he takes forever or never does them. Itâs like his bark is worse than his bite. We will never know why James ultimately left. Maybe it was that he finally was getting benched but I donât believe that so there is no use is arguing it any more. Ewing is also responsible for not handling sophomore Akinjoâs pouting, sitting all by himself on the court after time-out huddles and his insubordination (not following the coachesâ directions) with Allen on the roster. He had to sit Akinjo and insert Allen, even if it meant holding him out one game (and crazy uncleâs head exploding). Pat had a quality, experienced grad guard on the bench while his soph hot-shot was trying to singlehandedly break down Dukeâs Jones or insert name of the other teamâs top guard. Pat chose to stick with the show. Another learning experience? We hope. Weâre stuck with Pat; hereâs wishing for the best.
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Post by rockhoya on Mar 1, 2020 13:30:25 GMT -5
As much as I have been critical of Ewing, I am not sure this comparison is entirely fair. Pipkins is a grad transfer with no option to leave. Cooley had all the leverage to make a move like that, which was the right call. Our guy was a young sophomore from the West coast. It was not going to take much for him to leave if he was not getting his way. But your point is well-taken, an unproven coach cannot get away with treating players the way coaches did in the old days. I agree and my answer was a little tongue in cheek. The fact is that the Providence and our situation were very similar and they came out of it very well and we had a lost season and likely another one. The Ewing fan club will blame the players and this will all just keep going in a circle. The fact is when you pick your players at some point the finger has to point at you. For some on here that will never happen. We saw that with JT3. He had support until the very end. As others have mentioned we basically punted how ever many seasons it takes as Pat learns how to coach in college. It was a terrible idea in retrospect but now we have to hope he finally has figured it out. I had some worries about Pat coming in to coach but one of them was not how to deal with the new generation since he was dealing with them in the NBA. Granted those had already made it and were not the âbig guys on campusâ on their NBA teams. The crazy part is he seems to be very tough on them but when it comes time to make actual adjustments he takes forever or never does them. Itâs like his bark is worse than his bite. We will never know why James ultimately left. Maybe it was that he finally was getting benched but I donât believe that so there is no use is arguing it any more. No offense if true, but is English your second language or something? Because that would that explain a lot. Fact: a thing that is known to proven to be true. The Providence situation this year has been NOTHING similar to the Hoyas situation this year. Literally where do you come up with this stuff from? You have a wild imagination.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Mar 1, 2020 13:52:45 GMT -5
Creighton 3-22 from 3 in what is shaping up to be a blowout loss at St. John's. Sounds like they need a get-well game from outside.
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 1, 2020 19:43:51 GMT -5
If you told me to start the year, the BE was getting 7 bids I would have found it close to impossible to envision a scenario where we werenât one of those 7 teams. But in typical Hoya fashion, I present the roller coaster of the â19-â20 season.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 2, 2020 15:41:10 GMT -5
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Post by hoyas315 on Mar 2, 2020 20:55:38 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 2, 2020 21:01:18 GMT -5
And for a similar situation, see Cronin, Mick. If he isn't coach of the year in the Pac 12, there is no justice.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 3, 2020 12:58:29 GMT -5
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 3, 2020 22:02:22 GMT -5
For what it's worth (which of course is absolutely nothing), as they went to the second half under 4:00 timeout in the Marquette - DePaul game, they showed Howard hitting a three - with absolutely the exact same double hop that was called on Jahvon Sunday.
No travelling call on Howard.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 3, 2020 23:28:33 GMT -5
Good to see that BE refs know how to apply the Star treatment.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 4, 2020 18:05:07 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 4, 2020 22:23:56 GMT -5
Not a very good player, no major loss for DePaul.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 4, 2020 22:30:30 GMT -5
I'm one who doesn't care much about where recruits come from but it is sobering watching Bey & Moore play for Nova right now...
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 4, 2020 22:32:35 GMT -5
Another W for PC, smh...
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Post by mdtd on Mar 4, 2020 22:51:10 GMT -5
So uhh who would we want to play if we get to the second round, Seton Hall or Creighton?
At full strength, I like the Creighton matchup more... I think.
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