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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 18:40:29 GMT -5
Dante is going to get better. BUT, y'all trippin' Akinjo could do it all and that includes playing defense (on ball or off ball). Like I said waaay back coach had a leash on Akinjo who was really his best player. Do it all? This isn't true even though James thought it was. It was his biggest weakness as a player: recognizing his limitations. Being friends with Dame doesn't make one Dame. James was bad at finishing at the rim because he didn't have the speed, agility or hops to do so. Didn't stop him from trying it over and over. For me, that was his biggest weakness. But, since you said, "all," another thing he, apparently, couldn't do was listen to explicit instructions from his coach on a drawn-up play. As a developing player, I'd say that's a glaring weakness in any player's game. Also, he was a decent defender for a guy his size. Every now and then, he'd get amped up and try to lock his man down and had a bit of success during those rare times but he wasn't a willing defender nor an above average one. Iverson he wasn't and will never be. Having said that, James has a high ceiling if he can focus on what he does extremely well which is facilitate and knock down open shots. He was a very good player for us and will, likely, finish as an excellent college player. Back on topic, Harris has been surprisingly good. I love his energy and the way he sees picks coming and fights his butt off to get above them. That's something Akinjo wasn't as good at. I also love Harris' speed and his ability to change speed. His top end is really quick and I think that suits what Ewing wants to do very, very well. He's getting more and more comfortable and I already feel very comfortable with him having the ball in his hands. I'm really excited to see what he's able to do because he is obviously really competitive and he's already improving in-season. He's also consistently looking to the bench for direction which, as a freshman, is good to see. Most of all, the speed of the game doesn't look at all too quick for him. He's not Akinjo but Akinjo isn't Harris, either. I'm glad that Harris is a Hoya. Out of curiosity, what "leash" was on Akinjo? Having to run the offense his coach wanted him to run? That's not a leash. That's the game. He certainly wasn't lacking for minutes and was allowed more leeway than most in improvising. One word: ARIZONA!
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Post by tashoya on Feb 15, 2021 19:51:31 GMT -5
Do it all? This isn't true even though James thought it was. It was his biggest weakness as a player: recognizing his limitations. Being friends with Dame doesn't make one Dame. James was bad at finishing at the rim because he didn't have the speed, agility or hops to do so. Didn't stop him from trying it over and over. For me, that was his biggest weakness. But, since you said, "all," another thing he, apparently, couldn't do was listen to explicit instructions from his coach on a drawn-up play. As a developing player, I'd say that's a glaring weakness in any player's game. Also, he was a decent defender for a guy his size. Every now and then, he'd get amped up and try to lock his man down and had a bit of success during those rare times but he wasn't a willing defender nor an above average one. Iverson he wasn't and will never be. Having said that, James has a high ceiling if he can focus on what he does extremely well which is facilitate and knock down open shots. He was a very good player for us and will, likely, finish as an excellent college player. Back on topic, Harris has been surprisingly good. I love his energy and the way he sees picks coming and fights his butt off to get above them. That's something Akinjo wasn't as good at. I also love Harris' speed and his ability to change speed. His top end is really quick and I think that suits what Ewing wants to do very, very well. He's getting more and more comfortable and I already feel very comfortable with him having the ball in his hands. I'm really excited to see what he's able to do because he is obviously really competitive and he's already improving in-season. He's also consistently looking to the bench for direction which, as a freshman, is good to see. Most of all, the speed of the game doesn't look at all too quick for him. He's not Akinjo but Akinjo isn't Harris, either. I'm glad that Harris is a Hoya. Out of curiosity, what "leash" was on Akinjo? Having to run the offense his coach wanted him to run? That's not a leash. That's the game. He certainly wasn't lacking for minutes and was allowed more leeway than most in improvising. One word: ARIZONA! Arizona that lost three of their last four? Two words: try harder.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 15, 2021 19:55:25 GMT -5
Do it all? This isn't true even though James thought it was. It was his biggest weakness as a player: recognizing his limitations. Being friends with Dame doesn't make one Dame. James was bad at finishing at the rim because he didn't have the speed, agility or hops to do so. Didn't stop him from trying it over and over. For me, that was his biggest weakness. But, since you said, "all," another thing he, apparently, couldn't do was listen to explicit instructions from his coach on a drawn-up play. As a developing player, I'd say that's a glaring weakness in any player's game. Also, he was a decent defender for a guy his size. Every now and then, he'd get amped up and try to lock his man down and had a bit of success during those rare times but he wasn't a willing defender nor an above average one. Iverson he wasn't and will never be. Having said that, James has a high ceiling if he can focus on what he does extremely well which is facilitate and knock down open shots. He was a very good player for us and will, likely, finish as an excellent college player. Back on topic, Harris has been surprisingly good. I love his energy and the way he sees picks coming and fights his butt off to get above them. That's something Akinjo wasn't as good at. I also love Harris' speed and his ability to change speed. His top end is really quick and I think that suits what Ewing wants to do very, very well. He's getting more and more comfortable and I already feel very comfortable with him having the ball in his hands. I'm really excited to see what he's able to do because he is obviously really competitive and he's already improving in-season. He's also consistently looking to the bench for direction which, as a freshman, is good to see. Most of all, the speed of the game doesn't look at all too quick for him. He's not Akinjo but Akinjo isn't Harris, either. I'm glad that Harris is a Hoya. Out of curiosity, what "leash" was on Akinjo? Having to run the offense his coach wanted him to run? That's not a leash. That's the game. He certainly wasn't lacking for minutes and was allowed more leeway than most in improvising. One word: ARIZONA! FWIW, if we're to follow your version of logic, he's now not on a leash and his numbers are nearly exactly the same. Poor James. If he hadn't been held back by Ewing, he'd, apparently, be the exact same player. The horror. I'm glad he found a place where he could "spread his wings." More importantly, I'm REALLY happy that we have Harris.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 20:50:46 GMT -5
Arizona that lost three of their last four? Two words: try harder. Last time I checked basketball was a team sport and not and individual sport so I don't know how you get that Akinjo is solely Arizona.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 20:56:34 GMT -5
FWIW, if we're to follow your version of logic, he's now not on a leash and his numbers are nearly exactly the same. Poor James. If he hadn't been held back by Ewing, he'd, apparently, be the exact same player. The horror. I'm glad he found a place where he could "spread his wings." More importantly, I'm REALLY happy that we have Harris. All Akinjo is doing is leading his team in points at 14.3 that's less than two baskets made a game from what our guy Blair is doing. He leads the team in assist at 5.3 assist a game and is third in the conference in assist. He leads the team in steals at 1.5 and is fourth in the conference in steals. Yeah he was doing those things at Georgetown in his freshman and sophomore year, you right. LOL!!! Hilarious. He could have done more if Ewing would have let him. LOL!!! You got some logic. Dante, is our guy and hopefully he will get there sometime soon.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 15, 2021 21:26:42 GMT -5
FWIW, if we're to follow your version of logic, he's now not on a leash and his numbers are nearly exactly the same. Poor James. If he hadn't been held back by Ewing, he'd, apparently, be the exact same player. The horror. I'm glad he found a place where he could "spread his wings." More importantly, I'm REALLY happy that we have Harris. All Akinjo is doing is leading his team in points at 14.3 that's less than two baskets made a game from what our guy Blair is doing. He leads the team in assist at 5.3 assist a game and is third in the conference in assist. He leads the team in steals at 1.5 and is fourth in the conference in steals. Yeah he was doing those things at Georgetown in his freshman and sophomore year, you right. LOL!!! Hilarious. He could have done more if Ewing would have let him. LOL!!! You got some logic. Dante, is our guy and hopefully he will get there sometime soon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How are those numbers different than his numbers as a Hoya when he was "handcuffed?" You realize you're not making a point, right?
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Post by tashoya on Feb 15, 2021 21:33:30 GMT -5
FWIW, if we're to follow your version of logic, he's now not on a leash and his numbers are nearly exactly the same. Poor James. If he hadn't been held back by Ewing, he'd, apparently, be the exact same player. The horror. I'm glad he found a place where he could "spread his wings." More importantly, I'm REALLY happy that we have Harris. All Akinjo is doing is leading his team in points at 14.3 that's less than two baskets made a game from what our guy Blair is doing. He leads the team in assist at 5.3 assist a game and is third in the conference in assist. He leads the team in steals at 1.5 and is fourth in the conference in steals. Yeah he was doing those things at Georgetown in his freshman and sophomore year, you right. LOL!!! Hilarious. He could have done more if Ewing would have let him. LOL!!! You got some logic. Dante, is our guy and hopefully he will get there sometime soon. Since, apparently, you're too lazy to use Google, I'll help you out: www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/james-akinjo-1.htmlHave a look at freshman Akinjo and junior Akinjo. See a difference? Yeah, no one else does either. But, sure, he was constricted. James is wildly consistent. But, numbers-wise, he hasn't improved much at all. I assume that's all of the restrictions and all, right? Weird that, now that he's free to play how he plays, not a darn thing has markedly changed. You're not his uncle, right?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 21:45:49 GMT -5
All Akinjo is doing is leading his team in points at 14.3 that's less than two baskets made a game from what our guy Blair is doing. He leads the team in assist at 5.3 assist a game and is third in the conference in assist. He leads the team in steals at 1.5 and is fourth in the conference in steals. Yeah he was doing those things at Georgetown in his freshman and sophomore year, you right. LOL!!! Hilarious. He could have done more if Ewing would have let him. LOL!!! You got some logic. Dante, is our guy and hopefully he will get there sometime soon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How are those numbers different than his numbers as a Hoya when he was "handcuffed?" You realize you're not making a point, right? No you're not making a point. Okay let me make the point(s) for you......the question was who is better at this stage of their career, Akinjo or Dante? In Akinjo's freshmen year, he was freshman of the year. He averaged more than 13 points a game. He avg about 4 assist a game and he avg probably more than 1 steal a game. Dante, is no where near there in his freshman year. I like Dante and I think he will get better and do more for the team but he doesn't have those kinds of number in any category. So based upon the one year we can compare, Akinjo is better and was better for GU hands down. First point! Now, I believe and I believe that Akinjo believes he could have done a lot more like win us some games by being trusted to put the ball in the basket or by at least being able to make a decision at the end of the game. Coach didn't give him that leeway and sometimes coach deferred too much to Mac or Yurt at the end of the games. I think coach learned from that and he is allowing Dante to play and the other kids as well and that's a good thing. Because after all it is the kids who are playing the games and not the coach. Because Akinjo wasn't allowed to make decisions at the end of the game (Akinjo is a very good decision maker as he does most things right most of the time) and sometimes during the games, I feel this is the reason why he left the team (thus coach had him on a leash). He's not experiencing that at Arizona. Go read the articles of what Sean Miller says about Akinjo. Coach Miller trust Akinjo and doesn't have him on a leash and he is shining. Second point! So dude, come with some logical stuff to argue about or have some meat with your arguments because you're making no sense.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 15, 2021 21:54:34 GMT -5
Yeah, yeah, yeah. How are those numbers different than his numbers as a Hoya when he was "handcuffed?" You realize you're not making a point, right? No you're not making a point. Okay let me make the point(s) for you......the question was who is better at this stage of their career, Akinjo or Dante? In Akinjo's freshmen year, he was freshman of the year. He averaged more than 13 points a game. He avg about 4 assist a game and he avg probably more than 1 steal a game. Dante, is no where near there in his freshman year. I like Dante and I think he will get better and do more for the team but he doesn't have those kinds of number in any category. So based upon the one year we can compare, Akinjo is better and was better for GU hands down. First point! Now, I believe and I believe that Akinjo believes he could have done a lot more like win us some games by being trusted to put the ball in the basket or by at least being able to make a decision at the end of the game. Coach didn't give him that leeway and sometimes coach deferred too much to Mac or Yurt at the end of the games. I think coach learned from that and he is allowing Dante to play and the other kids as well and that's a good thing. Because after all it is the kids who are playing the games and not the coach. Because Akinjo wasn't allowed to make decisions at the end of the game (Akinjo is a very good decision maker as he does most things right most of the time) and sometimes during the games, I feel this is the reason why he left the team (thus coach had him on a leash). He's not experiencing that at Arizona. Go read the articles of what Sean Miller says about Akinjo. Coach Miller trust Akinjo and doesn't have him on a leash and he is shining. Second point! So dude, come with some logical stuff to argue about or have some meat with your arguments because you're making no sense. Let's stop you right there. That was not at all the discussion. You were the one lamenting Akinjo being held back. Own it. You're wrong. Another thing about which you're wrong: Akinjo making good decisions on the last possession. It's exactly why he got reprimanded and appropriately so. He ignored his coach and made a HORRIBLE decision based on his mistaken thought that he had the ability to drive and finish. He didn't. We all remember how that went. But, please do continue with your revisionist history and moving of the goal posts of the discussion when you get the inkling that you're not correct.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 21:55:21 GMT -5
No you're not making a point. Okay let me make the point(s) for you......the question was who is better at this stage of their career, Akinjo or Dante? In Akinjo's freshmen year, he was freshman of the year. He averaged more than 13 points a game. He avg about 4 assist a game and he avg probably more than 1 steal a game. Dante, is no where near there in his freshman year. I like Dante and I think he will get better and do more for the team but he doesn't have those kinds of number in any category. So based upon the one year we can compare, Akinjo is better and was better for GU hands down. First point! Now, I believe and I believe that Akinjo believes he could have done a lot more like win us some games by being trusted to put the ball in the basket or by at least being able to make a decision at the end of the game. Coach didn't give him that leeway and sometimes coach deferred too much to Mac or Yurt at the end of the games. I think coach learned from that and he is allowing Dante to play and the other kids as well and that's a good thing. Because after all it is the kids who are playing the games and not the coach. Because Akinjo wasn't allowed to make decisions at the end of the game (Akinjo is a very good decision maker as he does most things right most of the time) and sometimes during the games, I feel this is the reason why he left the team (thus coach had him on a leash). He's not experiencing that at Arizona. Go read the articles of what Sean Miller says about Akinjo. Coach Miller trust Akinjo and doesn't have him on a leash and he is shining. Second point! So dude, come with some logical stuff to argue about or have some meat with your arguments because you're making no sense. Let's stop you right there. That was not at all the discussion. You were the one lamenting Akinjo being held back. Own it. You're wrong. Did you graduate from Georgetown?
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Post by prhoya on Feb 15, 2021 21:56:41 GMT -5
Because Akinjo wasn't allowed to make decisions at the end of the game (Akinjo is a very good decision maker as he does most things right most of the time) and sometimes during the games, I feel this is the reason why he left the team (thus coach had him on a leash). He's not experiencing that at Arizona. Go read the articles of what Sean Miller says about Akinjo. Coach Miller trust Akinjo and doesn't have him on a leash and he is shining. Second point! So would you say he's a floor general?
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Post by tashoya on Feb 15, 2021 21:57:22 GMT -5
Let's stop you right there. That was not at all the discussion. You were the one lamenting Akinjo being held back. Own it. You're wrong. Did you graduate from Georgetown? Would I be wasting my time sounding like a moron on a message board for over a decade if I hadn't?
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Post by tashoya on Feb 15, 2021 21:57:55 GMT -5
Because Akinjo wasn't allowed to make decisions at the end of the game (Akinjo is a very good decision maker as he does most things right most of the time) and sometimes during the games, I feel this is the reason why he left the team (thus coach had him on a leash). He's not experiencing that at Arizona. Go read the articles of what Sean Miller says about Akinjo. Coach Miller trust Akinjo and doesn't have him on a leash and he is shining. Second point! So would you say he's a floor general? Is he a coach on the floor? Paging Glide....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 22:01:37 GMT -5
So would you say he's a floor general? Is he a coach on the floor? Paging Glide.... If you're asking if Akinjo is a floor general, yes he is. If you're asking if Dante is a floor general, he's becoming one for sure.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 15, 2021 22:04:02 GMT -5
Is he a coach on the floor? Paging Glide.... If you're asking if Akinjo is a floor general, yes he is. If you're asking if Dante is a floor general, he's becoming one for sure. Except, ya know, when he ignores his coach directly telling him to set someone else up and decides to drive the ball for some inexplicable reason since he isn't good at finishing. I'm sorry but you can't ignore the plays that happened that directly contradict your assertions. Floor generals don't care much for hero ball. They make the right plays. Much more importantly, Dante Harris has shown WAY more than any of us could have hoped and he's improving in-season. LOVE IT.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 22:22:03 GMT -5
If you're asking if Akinjo is a floor general, yes he is. If you're asking if Dante is a floor general, he's becoming one for sure. Except, ya know, when he ignores his coach directly telling him to set someone else up and decides to drive the ball for some inexplicable reason since he isn't good at finishing. I'm sorry but you can't ignore the plays that happened that directly contradict your assertions. Floor generals don't care much for hero ball. They make the right plays. Much more importantly, Dante Harris has shown WAY more than any of us could have hoped and he's improving in-season. LOVE IT. He did that one time! What about when he ignored the coach and hit the game winning three! My point is, what if the coach would have allowed him to take the last shot most of the time? What would have been the outcome?!!!!! I'm wiling to bet that he would have either hit the winning shot or got it to the right guy on a kick out for the winning shot MOST of the time. That's all I am saying. What about when Dante was playing hero ball earlier in the season, and he didn't hit any shots to win the game? ? Matter of fact, the ball went out of bounds a few times. Now I'm not knocking Dante and if he is the best player, which I contend Akinjo was for the Hoyas, he should take the shot. However Dante, at this stage of the game, isn't the best person to take the shot. That's my point!
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Post by tashoya on Feb 15, 2021 22:51:20 GMT -5
Except, ya know, when he ignores his coach directly telling him to set someone else up and decides to drive the ball for some inexplicable reason since he isn't good at finishing. I'm sorry but you can't ignore the plays that happened that directly contradict your assertions. Floor generals don't care much for hero ball. They make the right plays. Much more importantly, Dante Harris has shown WAY more than any of us could have hoped and he's improving in-season. LOVE IT. He did that one time! What about when he ignored the coach and hit the game winning three! My point is, what if the coach would have allowed him to take the last shot most of the time? What would have been the outcome?!!!!! I'm wiling to bet that he would have either hit the winning shot or got it to the right guy on a kick out for the winning shot MOST of the time. That's all I am saying. What about when Dante was playing hero ball earlier in the season, and he didn't hit any shots to win the game? ? Matter of fact, the ball went out of bounds a few times. Now I'm not knocking Dante and if he is the best player, which I contend Akinjo was for the Hoyas, he should take the shot. However Dante, at this stage of the game, isn't the best person to take the shot. That's my point! You have noticed that they don't run plays for Dante, right? No one was contending that he's the best player on the team right now. They were saying how much more he's shown than could have been, reasonably, expected from him. I don't think that's in dispute. With regard to Akinjo being the best player on the team, at times, he was. Other times, he wasn't. That's why he got all cranky. At times, others shone brighter because they played better. He didn't like plays called for others because he believed he was the best player. He wasn't always. That's just facts. Just as Mac was the best player on the team at times and some of the time he wasn't. Akinjo, seemingly, wanted to be the man regardless of the situation. Whoever told him he was AI good should get a really good therapist. Akinjo didn't earn "the man" status. Maybe he could have gotten there and maybe he is on Arizona but he's no different now than he was as a freshman. The Hoyas would be a better team with him on it in all likelihood. But, you're the one who brought up him not being given the latitude to do what he does as a player. The numbers say you're flat-out wrong. Just admit that you're wrong and we can move on. As you said in a very unconvincing retort apropos of nothing, Arizona! That's where he plays now and good luck to him. But, he's the exact same player that he was at Georgetown and I'm not just talking about the numbers. I've watched the games. Same player. He wasn't held back by coaches. He didn't live up to his own vision of himself. And, guess what? He won't if he doesn't get more realistic about what his limitations are. He's never going to be able finish at the rim. He doesn't have the speed/quickness/hops to do so. Not gonna happen. If he keeps trying to be that dude, he'll continue to fail. If he focuses on what he's excellent at, he'll be a much better player and a much better teammate as a result. He has shown that he can, at times, be an excellent passer. He should do more of that. He's a very good shooter when he gets an open look but not particularly good when contested. But, thinking one can do things and actually doing them are wildly different animals. All that said, you haven't even attempted to make the case that he's a better player at Arizona. I suggest you don't. It won't go well as there's, literally, zero evidence to back it up either in the stats or the eye test. His problem, seemingly, was never the staff holding him back. It was him butting up against his vision of the player he is and the actual player that he is. The latter is pretty damn good. Maybe he should focus more on that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 22:54:05 GMT -5
He did that one time! What about when he ignored the coach and hit the game winning three! My point is, what if the coach would have allowed him to take the last shot most of the time? What would have been the outcome?!!!!! I'm wiling to bet that he would have either hit the winning shot or got it to the right guy on a kick out for the winning shot MOST of the time. That's all I am saying. What about when Dante was playing hero ball earlier in the season, and he didn't hit any shots to win the game? ? Matter of fact, the ball went out of bounds a few times. Now I'm not knocking Dante and if he is the best player, which I contend Akinjo was for the Hoyas, he should take the shot. However Dante, at this stage of the game, isn't the best person to take the shot. That's my point! You have noticed that they don't run plays for Dante, right? No one was contending that he's the best player on the team right now. They were saying how much more he's shown than could have been, reasonably, expected from him. I don't think that's in dispute. With regard to Akinjo being the best player on the team, at times, he was. Other times, he wasn't. That's why he got all cranky. At times, others shone brighter because they played better. He didn't like plays called for others because he believed he was the best player. He wasn't always. That's just facts. Just as Mac was the best player on the team at times and some of the time he wasn't. Akinjo, seemingly, wanted to be the man regardless of the situation. Whoever told him he was AI good should get a really good therapist. Akinjo didn't earn "the man" status. Maybe he could have gotten there and maybe he is on Arizona but he's no different now than he was as a freshman. The Hoyas would be a better team with him on it in all likelihood. But, you're the one who brought up him not being given the latitude to do what he does as a player. The numbers say you're flat-out wrong. Just admit that you're wrong and we can move on. As you said in a very unconvincing retort apropos of nothing, Arizona! That's where he plays now and good luck to him. But, he's the exact same player that he was at Georgetown and I'm not just talking about the numbers. I've watched the games. Same player. He wasn't held back by coaches. He didn't live up to his own vision of himself. And, guess what? He won't if he doesn't get more realistic about what his limitations are. He's never going to be able finish at the rim. He doesn't have the speed/quickness/hops to do so. Not gonna happen. If he keeps trying to be that dude, he'll continue to fail. If he focuses on what he's excellent at, he'll be a much better player and a much better teammate as a result. He has shown that he can, at times, be an excellent passer. He should do more of that. He's a very good shooter when he gets an open look but not particularly good when contested. But, thinking one can do things and actually doing them are wildly different animals. All that said, you haven't even attempted to make the case that he's a better player at Arizona. I suggest you don't. It won't go well as there's, literally, zero evidence to back it up either in the stats or the eye test. His problem, seemingly, was never the staff holding him back. It was him butting up against his vision of the player he is and the actual player that he is. The latter is pretty damn good. Maybe he should focus more on that. Dude, I am going to bed now. I can't take this back and forth foolishness with you anymore tonight. Beat me up tomorrow. I'm outta here peeeeeeace!
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Post by tashoya on Feb 15, 2021 22:54:28 GMT -5
Dante, all day, every day. Love the kid. And I love that he, apparently, likes being a Hoya. I like Hoyas that like being Hoyas. I can't wait to see what he's able to do.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 15, 2021 22:57:12 GMT -5
You have noticed that they don't run plays for Dante, right? No one was contending that he's the best player on the team right now. They were saying how much more he's shown than could have been, reasonably, expected from him. I don't think that's in dispute. With regard to Akinjo being the best player on the team, at times, he was. Other times, he wasn't. That's why he got all cranky. At times, others shone brighter because they played better. He didn't like plays called for others because he believed he was the best player. He wasn't always. That's just facts. Just as Mac was the best player on the team at times and some of the time he wasn't. Akinjo, seemingly, wanted to be the man regardless of the situation. Whoever told him he was AI good should get a really good therapist. Akinjo didn't earn "the man" status. Maybe he could have gotten there and maybe he is on Arizona but he's no different now than he was as a freshman. The Hoyas would be a better team with him on it in all likelihood. But, you're the one who brought up him not being given the latitude to do what he does as a player. The numbers say you're flat-out wrong. Just admit that you're wrong and we can move on. As you said in a very unconvincing retort apropos of nothing, Arizona! That's where he plays now and good luck to him. But, he's the exact same player that he was at Georgetown and I'm not just talking about the numbers. I've watched the games. Same player. He wasn't held back by coaches. He didn't live up to his own vision of himself. And, guess what? He won't if he doesn't get more realistic about what his limitations are. He's never going to be able finish at the rim. He doesn't have the speed/quickness/hops to do so. Not gonna happen. If he keeps trying to be that dude, he'll continue to fail. If he focuses on what he's excellent at, he'll be a much better player and a much better teammate as a result. He has shown that he can, at times, be an excellent passer. He should do more of that. He's a very good shooter when he gets an open look but not particularly good when contested. But, thinking one can do things and actually doing them are wildly different animals. All that said, you haven't even attempted to make the case that he's a better player at Arizona. I suggest you don't. It won't go well as there's, literally, zero evidence to back it up either in the stats or the eye test. His problem, seemingly, was never the staff holding him back. It was him butting up against his vision of the player he is and the actual player that he is. The latter is pretty damn good. Maybe he should focus more on that. Dude, I am going to bed now. I can't take this back and forth foolishness with you anymore tonight. Beat me up tomorrow. I'm outta here peeeeeeace! Beat you up? I asked you to back up what you said. Sleep well. You won't be any better equipped to do so in the morning.
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