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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 16, 2019 21:34:41 GMT -5
In conjunction with the 40th anniversary of the Big East in 2019-20, HoyaSaxa.com will present "40 For 40: The Best Of The Big East", a series of player profiles on the front page from July 15 29, 2019 through Mar 2, 2020.
The list will highlight the greatest of the great who have played Big East basketball across 22 different schools and 40 years of play. Over those years, the conference has produced a combined 86 Associated Press All-America selections, 26 Olympians, nine Final Four MVP's and five National Player of the Year recipients.
Readers are encouraged to add their thoughts on some of the most memorable competitors of all time--not just the obvious selections, but the great opponents from the current ten team league and from the former programs at Boston College, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Louisville, Miami, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, South Florida, Syracuse, Virginia Tech and West Virginia.
To be fair, it's going to be difficult for a South Florida or Miami name to make it to the top 40, and even I have a hard time recalling anyone from those Virginia Tech teams of the 2000's. (Bryant Matthews, anyone?) But there are a lot of great candidates for this list, Georgetown and otherwise, who I hope will get some attention in this thread and maybe point a few out that I may not be paying attention to for the list.
From Ray Allen to Josh Hart, Walter Berry to Kerry Kittles, Billy Owens to Doug McDermott, Otis Thorpe to Otto Porter, Terry Dehere to Troy Bell, Pearl Washington to Kris Dunn and everyone in between, there's a lot in the mix, including other names like, and in no particular order... John Bagley, Dan Calandrillo, Ed Pinckney, Sherman Douglas, Mark Jackson, Jerome Lane, Malik Sealy, Donyell Marshall, Scoonie Penn, Rip Hamilton, Brandin Knight, Emeka Okafor, Hakim Warrick, DeJuan Blair, Luke Harangody, DeSean Butler, Peyton Siva, D'Angelo Harrison, Marshon Brooks, Kris Jenkins...and the list goes on. So by sheer volume, you're not going to see eight or 10 Georgetown names on a list of 40, so even that list is worth some further board discussion: Duren, Floyd, Ewing, Jackson and Wingate, Williams, Charles Smith, Mutombo and Mourning, Harrington, Iverson and Page, Braswell, Green and Hibbert, Greg Monroe, et al.
Join us for the conversation.
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Jun 17, 2019 4:53:41 GMT -5
So the battle is on for spots 2-40...
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Jun 17, 2019 6:56:04 GMT -5
No question that the following Hoyas make the list:
Sleepy
Patrick (as referenced above, should be the top spot)
Reggie
Alonzo
AI
There are strong arguments for both Big Mike and Jeff. To me, the guys noted above were so dominant that there is no question. Many, many great players will be excluded from this list, probably including my favorite and childhood hero, Charles Smith.
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Post by tribeninerhoya on Jun 17, 2019 9:25:02 GMT -5
No question that the following Hoyas make the list: Sleepy Patrick (as referenced above, should be the top spot) Reggie Alonzo AI There are strong arguments for both Big Mike and Jeff. To me, the guys noted above were so dominant that there is no question. Many, many great players will be excluded from this list, probably including my favorite and childhood hero, Charles Smith. No Dikembe?
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Post by C86 on Jun 17, 2019 12:03:36 GMT -5
Chris Mullin. You can't tell the story of the Big East without those Georgetown/St. John's games. Also, the 1982 NCAA tournament was really a coming-out party for the conference with 3 BE teams (GU, BC, and Villanova) in the regional finals.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Jun 19, 2019 7:16:30 GMT -5
: Duren, Floyd, Ewing, Jackson and Wingate, Williams, Charles Smith, Mutombo and Mourning, Harrington, Iverson and Page, Braswell, Green and Hibbert, Greg Monroe, et al. Join us for the conversation. Of course it is tough to put together a list of the greatest Hoyas without omitting some key names, But DFW, in my view, we should never included Johnny "Ba Ba" Duren in any such list without including his equally talented and accomplished running mate, Craig "Big Sky" Shelton
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Post by stafford72 on Jul 18, 2019 10:52:33 GMT -5
Agree 100%.
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Post by seaweed on Jul 18, 2019 18:53:36 GMT -5
In conjunction with the 40th anniversary of the Big East in 2019-20, HoyaSaxa.com will present "40 For 40: The Best Of The Big East", a series of player profiles on the front page from July 15, 2019 through Mar 2, 2020. The list will highlight the greatest of the great who have played Big East basketball across 22 different schools and 40 years of play. Over those years, the conference has produced a combined 86 Associated Press All-America selections, 26 Olympians, nine Final Four MVP's and five National Player of the Year recipients. Readers are encouraged to add their thoughts on some of the most memorable competitors of all time--not just the obvious selections, but the great opponents from the current ten team league and from the former programs at Boston College, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Louisville, Miami, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, South Florida, Syracuse, Virginia Tech and West Virginia. To be fair, it's going to be difficult for a South Florida or Miami name to make it to the top 40, and even I have a hard time recalling anyone from those Virginia Tech teams of the 2000's. (Bryant Matthews, anyone?) But there are a lot of great candidates for this list, Georgetown and otherwise, who I hope will get some attention in this thread and maybe point a few out that I may not be paying attention to for the list. From Ray Allen to Josh Hart, Walter Berry to Kerry Kittles, Billy Owens to Doug McDermott, Otis Thorpe to Otto Porter, Terry Dehere to Troy Bell, Pearl Washington to Kris Dunn and everyone in between, there's a lot in the mix, including other names like, and in no particular order... John Bagley, Dan Calandrillo, Ed Pinckney, Sherman Douglas, Mark Jackson, Jerome Lane, Malik Sealy, Donyell Marshall, Scoonie Penn, Rip Hamilton, Brandin Knight, Emeka Okafor, Hakim Warrick, DeJuan Blair, Luke Harangody, DeSean Butler, Peyton Siva, D'Angelo Harrison, Marshon Brooks, Kris Jenkins...and the list goes on. So by sheer volume, you're not going to see eight or 10 Georgetown names on a list of 40, so even that list is worth some further board discussion: Duren, Floyd, Ewing, Jackson and Wingate, Williams, Charles Smith, Mutombo and Mourning, Harrington, Iverson and Page, Braswell, Green and Hibbert, Greg Monroe, et al. Join us for the conversation. Dude, you forgot Cheddar Bob... *ducks*
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Aug 4, 2019 7:02:16 GMT -5
You've GOTTA check out the front page! OK, many have seen this highlight reel before, but it NEVER gets old. GREAT job by DFW to mark the 25 year anniversary of the arrival of THE most exciting player ever to don a Hoya uni! Thank you DFW -- And Coach John Thompson. www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/bball.htm
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lichoya68
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OK YOUNGINS ARE HERE AND ARE VERY VERY GOOD cant wait GO HOYAS
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Post by lichoya68 on Sept 8, 2019 8:56:01 GMT -5
hey my favorite and maybe one of best rebounders in big east jerome junk yard dog williams just a thought. great job DFW let the games begin the hoyas will be BACCCCKKKKK>.
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Post by One on Oct 28, 2019 21:41:46 GMT -5
Great entry on Sleepy.
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Post by Gold Coast Hoya on Nov 7, 2019 5:58:36 GMT -5
My vote for Jim Barry, a real HOYA talet when I attended the Law Center oh so many years ago.
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 7, 2019 18:45:37 GMT -5
My vote for Jim Barry, a real HOYA talet when I attended the Law Center oh so many years ago. Jim Barry may be on the short list of greatest Hoya players, but he didn't play in the Big East.
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Post by grokamok on Nov 12, 2019 15:22:17 GMT -5
My favorite player. Wish that his leadership in bringing us the '82 Big East Championship and NCAA Regional Championship, along with his performance in the '82 Final had been mentioned, rather than trailing off with reference to Ewing's rise. Some fantastic shots, most self-created and several with a significant degree of difficulty, in a contest where freshmen Ewing and Jordan, despite providing their own highlights, took back seats to him and Worthy. Having put us up one on a tough shot from the key with about a minute left, he was open in the corner for a winning silky-smooth jumper had the unthinkable not happened after Jordan hit his open two.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 12, 2019 15:37:41 GMT -5
The teal uniforms may of cost us the’82 championship. Carolina’s colors were too close to ours that year.
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Post by Elvado on Nov 12, 2019 17:40:14 GMT -5
The teal uniforms may of cost us the’82 championship. Carolina’s colors were too close to ours that year. Then wasn’t it the white shirts which cost us asUNC was in white?
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 12, 2019 18:21:20 GMT -5
It’s as if UNC were in our home jerseys for that season.
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Nov 12, 2019 18:31:18 GMT -5
It’s as if UNC were in our home jerseys for that season. Right. Our white jerseys. Teal had little to no part in Fred’s brain cramp.
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 12, 2019 19:20:32 GMT -5
And speaking of 40 for 40, perhaps it's just my Syracuse animus, but I don't see any way McNamara should be ahead of either Sleepy or Josh Hart.
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Post by drquigley on Nov 26, 2019 12:01:51 GMT -5
Sorry I'm late to this discussion but for geezers like me one of the best teams were those shortly before Ewing got here. JT2 had put together a group of mostly local, gutsy players who were already raising the program before Patrick. Sleepy, Shelton, Anthony Jones, Duren and a bunch of guys whose names I can't remember. Back in the day we used to play GW and AU twice and the games were always close. I will never forget the GW game we played at McDonough back in 1980(?) when we ran the Colonials off the court. Buddies and I just looked at each other and knew a new day had arrived.
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