hoyainla
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Post by hoyainla on Jan 23, 2020 18:18:38 GMT -5
He's the best rebounder, shot blocker and low post scoring threat on this team.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 23, 2020 20:55:05 GMT -5
Why is it that Yurtseven loses every damn jump ball? He usually has a good 2-4 inches on his opponent.
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Post by dchoya72 on Jan 23, 2020 22:41:28 GMT -5
Qudus reminds me of Patrick when he played in the sense that he is very quick and aggressive around the basket. He needs to play more and the game will slow down for him. I too would like to see both he and Yurtseven on the floor together with YS playing at the 4 position.
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Post by aggypryd on Jan 24, 2020 8:15:38 GMT -5
If he keeps adding stuff to his game, he's going to be pretty darn good!!
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jan 24, 2020 8:25:16 GMT -5
If he keeps adding stuff to his game, he's going to be pretty darn good!! He needs to show consistent play. Providence: 6 points, 1 rebound Seton Hall: 0 points, 1 rebound St. John's: 2 points, 2 rebounds Villanova: 13 points, 4 rebounds Creighton: 0 points, 2 rebounds Marquette: 6 points, 1 rebound Xavier: 9 points, 8 rebounds I am surprised Ighoefe hasn't see more time, even at a minute or two a la Muresan. Wilson, who knows.
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Post by bostonfan on Jan 24, 2020 8:40:51 GMT -5
If he keeps adding stuff to his game, he's going to be pretty darn good!! I think he is already a pretty good college center. He is a better rebounder than anyone on the team at this point and does a great job of rebounding out of his area. Really pursues the ball well. His offense has continued to improve and he uses his length and strength to his advantage to get the shots he wants. He does not have the complete offensive game of Yurt, but from his improvement this season you have to believe he is a very hard worker. I would like to see him get a few minutes playing alongside Yurt to see how that would work. I realize it would be a problem against some of the more perimeter based Big East teams, but I think it would be helpful against some of the bigger Big East teams that have given the Hoyas problems rebounding.
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Post by DudeSlade on Jan 24, 2020 13:13:49 GMT -5
If he keeps adding stuff to his game, he's going to be pretty darn good!! He needs to show consistent play. Providence: 6 points, 1 rebound Seton Hall: 0 points, 1 rebound St. John's: 2 points, 2 rebounds Villanova: 13 points, 4 rebounds Creighton: 0 points, 2 rebounds Marquette: 6 points, 1 rebound Xavier: 9 points, 8 rebounds I am surprised Ighoefe hasn't see more time, even at a minute or two a la Muresan. Wilson, who knows. I am assuming Wilson is being saved for a redshirt at this point. I had thought the same for Ighoefe after he didn't even play in the first few games after the transfers, but then he played in 3 against lowly non-conference, but hasn't played again. I don't really understand the plan here. If you were not going to redshirt him, why not find him some minutes here or there? Is it possible to still redshirt him? I know football now allows you to play 4 games and still redshirt (injury or not), but I thought basketball required an injury and less than a certain amount of games (is it 12?) to redshirt if you've played at all that year. On Edit: I just looked up Tim's stats and did not realize he actually played 1 minute in the Seton Hall & Providence games, so I guess he's played in 5 games technically.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Jan 24, 2020 16:02:44 GMT -5
If he keeps adding stuff to his game, he's going to be pretty darn good!! He needs to show consistent play. Providence: 6 points, 1 rebound Seton Hall: 0 points, 1 rebound St. John's: 2 points, 2 rebounds Villanova: 13 points, 4 rebounds Creighton: 0 points, 2 rebounds Marquette: 6 points, 1 rebound Xavier: 9 points, 8 rebounds I am surprised Ighoefe hasn't see more time, even at a minute or two a la Muresan. Wilson, who knows. Minutes played those games: 14 8 9 15 5 6 19 I don’t know how you expect better stats when he’s barely playing in some of these games. In the three games he played more than 10 mins, he was pretty damn effective.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jan 24, 2020 17:49:53 GMT -5
He needs to show consistent play. Providence: 6 points, 1 rebound Seton Hall: 0 points, 1 rebound St. John's: 2 points, 2 rebounds Villanova: 13 points, 4 rebounds Creighton: 0 points, 2 rebounds Marquette: 6 points, 1 rebound Xavier: 9 points, 8 rebounds I am surprised Ighoefe hasn't see more time, even at a minute or two a la Muresan. Wilson, who knows. Minutes played those games: 14 8 9 15 5 6 19 I don’t know how you expect better stats when he’s barely playing in some of these games. In the three games he played more than 10 mins, he was pretty damn effective. Yeah but in the games he didn't play more than 10 minutes he wasn't playing that well, which is why he didn't get more time. I really like Wahab and think he has a very promising future for the Hoyas. He has solid post moves, he is a decent rebounder but has a tendency to reach/go over the back for some, and he has good shot blocking ability. However, he has a very hard time recovering from the hard hedge (I'm not a fan of the hard hedge, but the difference between Omer and Qudus when it comes to recovery is easy to see) and he's still working on setting good screens. Those issues result in a lot of fouls. He's a very good player but he's still developing, and with that development will come consistency. Combining the original table with minutes played as well as fouls: Providence: 6 points, 1 rebound, 14 minutes, 1 foul Seton Hall: 0 points, 1 rebound, 8 minutes, 3 fouls St. John's: 2 points, 2 rebounds, 9 minutes, 3 fouls Villanova: 13 points, 4 rebounds, 15 minutes, 0 fouls Creighton: 0 points, 2 rebounds, 5 minutes, 0 fouls Marquette: 6 points, 1 rebound, 6 minutes, 3 fouls Xavier: 9 points, 8 rebounds, 19 minutes, 3 fouls
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Post by prhoya on Jan 24, 2020 18:03:44 GMT -5
That’s all over the place. We need for Omer to stay or get a grad transfer/immediately available big for next year. Pat doesn’t have the luxury to enter another season with inconsistent or inexperienced play from the 5 and suffer through another inconsistent season.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Jan 24, 2020 20:10:57 GMT -5
That’s all over the place. We need for Omer to stay or get a grad transfer/immediately available big for next year. Pat doesn’t have the luxury to enter another season with inconsistent or inexperienced play from the 5 and suffer through another inconsistent season. This is completely off base
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 24, 2020 21:02:50 GMT -5
Qudus will need to step up next season. That said, we could use a polished PF who can bang and score.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 24, 2020 21:50:32 GMT -5
Q will have the whole off season to get stronger and to work on his game at both ends. He certainly won't be fully polished next season but he will be a significant contributor.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 24, 2020 23:43:06 GMT -5
That’s all over the place. We need for Omer to stay or get a grad transfer/immediately available big for next year. Pat doesn’t have the luxury to enter another season with inconsistent or inexperienced play from the 5 and suffer through another inconsistent season. This is completely off base Please explain.
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Post by kbones17 on Jan 24, 2020 23:58:05 GMT -5
Q will be good for 20 min per game next year. Due to foul trouble and development we will need another big that can play the other 20; a grad transfer 4/5 is what we need.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 25, 2020 0:21:39 GMT -5
That’s all over the place. We need for Omer to stay or get a grad transfer/immediately available big for next year. Pat doesn’t have the luxury to enter another season with inconsistent or inexperienced play from the 5 and suffer through another inconsistent season. This is completely off base I think it is clear that someone like Yurtseven would help us next year, considering how thin a roster we have. To be fair, Wahab has been pretty effective, and in Big East play, he's shooting 70.8% from two, which surprised me, and impressive. So, if your concern is stunting Wahab's growth, I see where you are coming from, but I just don't see how having Yurtseven would be bad. In Big East play, other than Wahab and Mosley, Yurtseven is the most efficient player. In the Big East, he is shooting 88.2% on free throws, he is shooting 49.3% on twos (only Mosely and Wahab are better), and he's even 2-5 from three. He's our best rebounder both offensively and defensively (yes, better than Wahab). The other issue is that even though Wahab looks like he's got a ton of potential, even without fouls, he's not going to play much more than 25 minutes or so a game, and Ighoefe and Wilson are clearly not going to be at Yurtseven levels next year. Now, should we bring in a mediocre center as a graduate transfer? No, I don't think so, because I'd rather have Wahab. But, if Yurtseven was willing to stay another year, I'd happily take him.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Jan 25, 2020 13:40:48 GMT -5
This is completely off base Please explain. I’ve said it a number of times. It’s blatantly obvious that Qudus is our future At the 5. I’d argue he should be our present, but that’s a different argument. With a full summer of work, this kid has the potential to be a major breakout player in the conference next year. Yurtseven returning would only stunt his growth and limit his playing time. Omer just isn’t really cut out for the physicality of this conference and the style of basketball that Ewing wants to play, on both ends. We’ve got 2 guys behind Qudus that have the tools to be more than capable backups next year. It’s time for Omer to move on
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jan 25, 2020 13:51:21 GMT -5
I’ve said it a number of times. It’s blatantly obvious that Qudus is our future At the 5. I’d argue he should be our present, but that’s a different argument. With a full summer of work, this kid has the potential to be a major breakout player in the conference next year. Yurtseven returning would only stunt his growth and limit his playing time. Omer just isn’t really cut out for the physicality of this conference and the style of basketball that Ewing wants to play, on both ends. We’ve got 2 guys behind Qudus that have the tools to be more than capable backups next year. It’s time for Omer to move on While Georgetown continues to get clobbered by the likes of Howard, Powell, and Gillespie, it keeps chasing after the next big man.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 25, 2020 14:09:05 GMT -5
Agree completely. We are stuck in the 80s. The game has evolved, we haven’t. The same reason why Ewing didn’t get a NBA head coaching gig and Hibbert is not in the league, it’s no longer a big’s game. It’s silly to take three bigs in one class. If we ever make it to the tournament again, another mid-major will rain threes on us.
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Post by michaeldm9 on Jan 25, 2020 14:30:08 GMT -5
Agree completely. We are stuck in the 80s. The game has evolved, we haven’t. The same reason why Ewing didn’t get a NBA head coaching gig and Hibbert is not in the league, it’s no longer a big’s game. It’s silly to take three bigs in one class. If we ever make it to the tournament again, another mid-major will rain threes on us. What the heck is everyone talking about. GTown doesn't not have the horses. Need players!!!! Now maybe there recruiting techniques are bad but basketball is basketball. Triangle, Princeton, Flex etc. All will work if executed properly with good players. This team totally over achieving!!!
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