hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 13, 2019 15:45:40 GMT -5
That was a perfect result for us. A close, 1-pt, ugly-ass game in which one team played horribly in the first half and the other team played horribly in the second half, barfing away the lead and victory. Couldn't have scripted that any better. Both teams combined to score 15 points in the final 8:59 minutes of the game, and 2 points in the final 3:23. Go Hoyas! Now just need to beat SHU and have NCSt lose by 20pts to seal their fate.....I still think we need to make the finals.....
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Post by aleutianhoya on Mar 13, 2019 16:05:29 GMT -5
Does anyone know the chance our young ladies have of making the field? I don't follow women's college bball too closely but I do know that they finished 4th and made the semis.... Very little. Profile would be somewhat Clemson or Texas-like (compared to the men)....but a bit worse. They played a lot of very good teams...they had the 19th hardest schedule in the country. But they went 0-10 in Q1 games. Best wins were going 2-1 vs. Villanova (55 in the RPI). Had a very good year (certainly by their standards). Probably came up two games short.....
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GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 13, 2019 20:05:20 GMT -5
The conference tourney games have just been crazy. Never seen so many huge swings.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Mar 13, 2019 20:07:41 GMT -5
Friggin TCU blew a huge lead and then hit a game winning 3 with about 10 seconds left.
Damn it that would have been huge for us...
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GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 13, 2019 20:10:03 GMT -5
One thing is for sure, these teams are pretty horrible. Geez.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Mar 13, 2019 22:43:24 GMT -5
St. John's dodges likely the last bullet prior to clinching an at-large.
No less than 9 games impacting the bubble tomorrow before we take the court. Not a whole lot of margin of error remaining before we're forced to win out.
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Eurostar
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Post by Eurostar on Mar 13, 2019 22:47:05 GMT -5
Clemson lost on 2 free throws after a horrible last second foul call. That could help us.
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 13, 2019 23:01:43 GMT -5
Does Oklahoma losing to a bad West Virginia team help us at all? Or were the Sooners solidly in no matter what?
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Post by RockawayHoya on Mar 13, 2019 23:31:11 GMT -5
Does Oklahoma losing to a bad West Virginia team help us at all? Or were the Sooners solidly in no matter what? Think more of the latter. Oklahoma is an 8 seed on the matrix. Hard to imagine they go from 8 to out as a result of their first Q3 loss of the year. Like TCU, I think they have enough total wins coupled with a strong NCSOS to be safe. Texas, on the other hand, has a lot of work to do. Definitely out with a loss to Kansas and a single win might not be enough either.
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Post by upstatesaxa on Mar 14, 2019 0:24:58 GMT -5
Heresy, I know, but given youth of our squad I would rather see us play deep into the NIT than squeak into (and then get blasted out of) the “Big Dance”
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hoyaduck
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Post by hoyaduck on Mar 14, 2019 0:34:49 GMT -5
Heresy, I know, but given youth of our squad I would rather see us play deep into the NIT than squeak into (and then get blasted out of) the “Big Dance” I see what you’re saying, but I would rather have the freshmen get a taste of the NCAA tournament even if it’s a first round loss. Plus, you have the seniors that have never been... Do it for them.
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Post by tribeninerhoya on Mar 14, 2019 4:34:18 GMT -5
Heresy, I know, but given youth of our squad I would rather see us play deep into the NIT than squeak into (and then get blasted out of) the “Big Dance” I see what you’re saying, but I would rather have the freshmen get a taste of the NCAA tournament even if it’s a first round loss. Plus, you have the seniors that have never been... Do it for them. Plus it helps recruiting. I’m one of the “always prefer the NCAA” guys.
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 14, 2019 5:22:12 GMT -5
A deep NIT run would be a nice consolation prize, but we could lose our first NIT game, too.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Mar 14, 2019 6:06:16 GMT -5
Squeaking into the big dance means a 12/12 play-in game followed by a 5 seed matchup.
I don’t see that as particularly daunting or a “get blasted” scenario.
I believe you always take the NCAAs...
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 14, 2019 6:21:01 GMT -5
A deep NIT run would be a nice consolation prize, but we could lose our first NIT game, too. The last thing the program needs is to lose to a low major team no one but hoops nerds have heard of in the first round - of the NIT!
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daveg023
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 14, 2019 6:35:49 GMT -5
I think by the time we take the court tonight we’ll have a much better sense if there’s a path to an at-large bid or not. Pretty much requires everyone else pitching a no hitter during the day, but it’s not impossible until these teams actually get the wins.
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GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 14, 2019 8:33:09 GMT -5
Right. It's a juicy day today. Pretty much every remaining bubble team plays. Arizona St, Clemson, Indiana, Creighton, Florida and Texas could all lose today. Let's hope.
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daveg023
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 14, 2019 8:41:09 GMT -5
TCU draws Kansas St without Wade it looks like...
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Post by franklinhoya on Mar 14, 2019 9:20:51 GMT -5
If you read what the NCAA says about the NET ranking system, it does not bode well for us. The page that describes the ranking system ( www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/2018-08-22/net-rankings-what-know-about-college-basketballs-new-tool-help ) indicates that it is designed to factor in all aspects of the selection process, and I worry that it will be used exclusively to determine bids and seeding. We have the worst NET of all the teams on the bubble (including really fringe bubble teams Butler, Toledo, Davidson, Dayton, Providence, Colorado, Hofstra, Xavier, Arizona St, UC Irvine, San Francisco, ...). That said, Providence's NET ranking went up to 69 from 75 with just one win over Butler (granted it was by 23 points). It will be interesting to see how our rating will change if we win tonight (and by how much). It is likely that we will still not be close to where the true bubble teams are like Indiana, Texas, Ohio St, ... Our only hope is that they use the NET like they used to use the RPI, as one of many tools to evaluate teams.
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LCPolo18
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 14, 2019 9:37:55 GMT -5
Georgetown down from 76 to 77 in NET today. Hoyas got jumped by Vermont (went from NET 81 to 73 overnight) who had a home win against NET 325 Binghamton with a score of 84-51. Just shows how much margin of victory/net efficiency affect the NET rankings when a 33 point Q4 home win moved Vermont up 8 spots while Georgetown's 2 point Q1 road win moved the Hoyas up 2 spots. Hopefully Georgetown doesn't regret not blowing out those non-conference opponents or giving up late game garbage points. In today's installment of "I don't understand NET but I'm going to try anyway", Georgetown went down from 77 to 78 today in the NET. The Hoyas switched spots with Missouri which went up from 78 to 77 after a 10 point neutral court win over NET 115 Georgia. So to recap from yesterday, a 33 point win at home over NET 325 moved Vermont up 8 spots in the rankings, while a 10 point win on a neutral court over NET 115 moved Missouri up 1 spot in the rankings. This is a great example since the Missouri win was 10 points, the max for margin of victory. Since the opponent and location were better for the Missouri win, the only explanation is that the net efficiency factor is really influential in the calculation, so running up the score on opponents must be really valuable to the NET rankings.
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