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Post by BeantownHoya on Mar 9, 2019 19:54:57 GMT -5
Alabama gets killed by Arkansas...every little bit helps...
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 10, 2019 7:16:19 GMT -5
Next year the title of this thread will be "NCAA Tournament Seeding"
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daveg023
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 10, 2019 7:32:56 GMT -5
Murray State beating Belmont wasn’t a great result for bubble teams.
I think you have to expect at least 1-2 more bubble thefts (maybe even us?!) and at the end of the day I don’t think the bubble will actually be that big.
Win 3 in at MSG has to be our mantra.
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Post by trillesthoya on Mar 10, 2019 7:55:07 GMT -5
Next year the title of this thread will be "NCAA Tournament Seeding" No point in having a thread to debate the seeding next year when we’re undefeated and an objective one-seed.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 10, 2019 8:27:56 GMT -5
That should be an upgrade, especially if we can avoid any of the real horrible teams. This year, it was the MD Eastern Shore game. Absolutely no need. Yes the +300 games have to be limited to 1-3 at most; not 3-5. To be fair, the Hoyas only had 2-3 opponents this year that were 300+ (Howard 296, CCSU 307, UMES 351).
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 10, 2019 8:30:20 GMT -5
NET only went up to 76. Hoyas are now 5-6 against Q1 opponents, with 1 win against an upper tier Q1 team. Hoyas are also 6-4 against Q2 opponents and 1-2 against Q3 opponents.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Mar 10, 2019 8:32:38 GMT -5
NET only went up to 76. Hoyas are now 5-6 against Q1 opponents, with 1 win against an upper tier Q1 team. Hoyas are also 6-4 against Q2 opponents and 1-2 against Q3 opponents. Our Q1 and Q2 record (11-10 combined) looks strong against most bubble teams.
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 10, 2019 8:33:14 GMT -5
Yes the +300 games have to be limited to 1-3 at most; not 3-5. To be fair, the Hoyas only had 2-3 opponents this year that were 300+ (Howard 296, CCSU 307, UMES 351). Fair point. The rankings of some (Campbell, AR Little Rock, App St) turned out to be a little better but all were candidates for a worse ranking when the year started. My point was more in general when looking at last year and this year’s schedule. But this year’s schedule didn’t turn out as bad as it seemed back in October, and definitely improved from last year. Next year is already shaping up to be better too.
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Post by lda05816 on Mar 10, 2019 9:00:59 GMT -5
I'm very interested to see how the committee uses the NET. A team like NC State wouldn't even be on the bubble if the RPI was still in play. They are 102 in RPI and 32 in NET. I am a fan of using the advanced metrics but at some point it has to be about winning. NC State pretty much lost to all the best teams in conference ( 2 Quad 1 wins) and 13 of their 21 wins are Quad 3 or 4.
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Post by stafford72 on Mar 10, 2019 9:28:17 GMT -5
The truth is that none of the so- called bubble teams deserve a bid to the NCAA's. Let's trust that indeed next season our fate will be secure by this point and we will be debating seeding only. Still hoping for at least 2 morevictories before this one is over.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Mar 10, 2019 9:34:02 GMT -5
Question: Does anyone know how a team like SJU will be treated in the BE tourney as far as the NET quads go? Let’s say they win Wednesday, beat Marquette Thursday, and we were to knock them off on Friday. I’m assuming the committee will consider it neutral even though it’s their home arena?
In the hypothetical scenario, it would mean the difference between a quad 1 and quad 2 win
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Post by BeantownHoya on Mar 10, 2019 9:43:23 GMT -5
Murray State beating Belmont wasn’t a great result for bubble teams. I think you have to expect at least 1-2 more bubble thefts (maybe even us?!) and at the end of the day I don’t think the bubble will actually be that big. Win 3 in at MSG has to be our mantra. Belmont looks good on paper but I will be shocked if they get in regardless of their NET. They split w/Murray St and got swept by Jacksonville St. So 1-3 against the best teams in their conference. Their only statement game OOC was Purdue and they lost. They did beat UCLA borderline NIT team and Lipscomb. Which honestly might be their best win of the year...Lipscomb. If your best win all year is Lipscomb and you go dancing as an at large team then sorry something is wrong w/the system.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 10, 2019 9:49:45 GMT -5
Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in.
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Mar 10, 2019 10:46:49 GMT -5
Most brackets I perused this morning had us in or just out. We are on the cusp. And the NET is garbage. Problem is for the other metrics used on the NCAA sheet we don’t fare much better except for KPI, where we are now 47!! Should be interesting if we win Thursday.
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Post by McBricks on Mar 10, 2019 11:11:38 GMT -5
Win Thursday and all this gets very exciting. This season has been a roller coaster for sure.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Mar 10, 2019 11:24:31 GMT -5
Most brackets I perused this morning had us in or just out. We are on the cusp. And the NET is garbage. Problem is for the other metrics used on the NCAA sheet we don’t fare much better except for KPI, where we are now 47!! Should be interesting if we win Thursday. Which brackets are you looking at? I saw that Jerry Palm has us as one of the first out but then I saw a couple of others that didn’t even list us in “Next Four Out”.
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Post by lda05816 on Mar 10, 2019 11:30:11 GMT -5
Question: Does anyone know how a team like SJU will be treated in the BE tourney as far as the NET quads go? Let’s say they win Wednesday, beat Marquette Thursday, and we were to knock them off on Friday. I’m assuming the committee will consider it neutral even though it’s their home arena? In the hypothetical scenario, it would mean the difference between a quad 1 and quad 2 win I believe I read they will be considered home games for St Johns. I can't find where I read that, so don't quote me but I am fairly certain that is the case.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Mar 10, 2019 11:38:15 GMT -5
Most brackets I perused this morning had us in or just out. We are on the cusp. And the NET is garbage. Problem is for the other metrics used on the NCAA sheet we don’t fare much better except for KPI, where we are now 47!! Should be interesting if we win Thursday. Which brackets are you looking at? I saw that Jerry Palm has us as one of the first out but then I saw a couple of others that didn’t even list us in “Next Four Out”. We are not among Palms first four out this morning. In his daily write up of the previous day's bubble games he does list our win and notes that it kept our "slim" hopes alive.
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 10, 2019 11:46:09 GMT -5
Liberty beating Lipscomb won’t hurt our case. Another win over a tournament team.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 10, 2019 11:54:02 GMT -5
Question: Does anyone know how a team like SJU will be treated in the BE tourney as far as the NET quads go? Let’s say they win Wednesday, beat Marquette Thursday, and we were to knock them off on Friday. I’m assuming the committee will consider it neutral even though it’s their home arena? In the hypothetical scenario, it would mean the difference between a quad 1 and quad 2 win I believe I read they will be considered home games for St Johns. I can't find where I read that, so don't quote me but I am fairly certain that is the case. Yes I believe its the same as the tournament site rules so three or more regular season games makes it a home site. MSG will be home for St. Johns.
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