hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Feb 28, 2019 21:04:35 GMT -5
Legitimately? No, you're not. It was associated with President Obama. That's all that mattered to the current President and his lackeys all fell in line. The night plane full of cash was a particularly odious component and an awful look. It was their money and returning it was part of the agreement. Iran was not part of any international banking system so how else was the money supposed to get there?
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Feb 28, 2019 21:12:40 GMT -5
The night plane full of cash was a particularly odious component and an awful look. It was their money and returning it was part of the agreement. Iran was not part of any international banking system so how else was the money supposed to get there? And returning it was a major sticking point for a lot of Americans who have neither forgotten nor forgiven 1979. It was a terrible condition to accept.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 28, 2019 21:42:27 GMT -5
www.foxnews.com/politics/rncs-mcdaniel-at-cpac-gopers-mulling-trump-primary-challenge-will-lose-horriblyQuestion: Why the blind loyalty to Trump at the RNC? It can either support an irreligious populist who will say anything to further his own financial aims, even if it means sending the GOP institutionally down the river for a generation, one which will be a criminal target of the SDNY for years to come, and who will always place his own personal aims ahead of national and international stability... or cut their losses for an evangelical VP who is not overwhelmed by scandal and may be able to hold the Midwest electorally and avoid losing the Senate at the cusp of an aging Supreme Court (with RBG and Breyer over 80 and Justice Thomas giving clues as to retiring)? We can assume the Russians have kompromat on DJT. What does DJT have on the RNC?
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Feb 28, 2019 22:15:21 GMT -5
Legitimately? No, you're not. It was associated with President Obama. That's all that mattered to the current President and his lackeys all fell in line. The night plane full of cash was a particularly odious component and an awful look. The 1.8 billion to settle the pre-1979 arms deal that amounted to the money that was held by the US plus interest? I agree that the delivery method wasn't a good look but it was a fairly legit settlement, no? That's roughly the same amount the current President was offered for the wall we weren't supposed to pay for to which he responded by holding hostage thousands and thousands of American paychecks. One was a relatively legitimate deal returning moneys held, plus interest, to the rightful owner. The other was the blackmailing American taxpayers for money that the President promised wouldn't be required in the first place. I grant that they're entirely different things. But, if it's about the money, there are far more egregious situations where a similar amount of money was either given or taken.
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Post by Elvado on Feb 28, 2019 22:19:18 GMT -5
The night plane full of cash was a particularly odious component and an awful look. The 1.8 billion to settle the pre-1979 arms deal that amounted to the money that was held by the US plus interest? I agree that the delivery method wasn't a good look but it was a fairly legit settlement, no? That's roughly the same amount the current President was offered for the wall we weren't supposed to pay for to which he responded by holding hostage thousands and thousands of American paychecks. One was a relatively legitimate deal returning moneys held, plus interest, to the rightful owner. The other was the blackmailing American taxpayers for money that the President promised wouldn't be required in the first place. I grant that they're entirely different things. But, if it's about the money, there are far more egregious situations where a similar amount of money was either given or taken. It is not the amount of the money. It is, for those of us who lived through 1979, a very tough pill to swallow.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Feb 28, 2019 22:31:42 GMT -5
The 1.8 billion to settle the pre-1979 arms deal that amounted to the money that was held by the US plus interest? I agree that the delivery method wasn't a good look but it was a fairly legit settlement, no? That's roughly the same amount the current President was offered for the wall we weren't supposed to pay for to which he responded by holding hostage thousands and thousands of American paychecks. One was a relatively legitimate deal returning moneys held, plus interest, to the rightful owner. The other was the blackmailing American taxpayers for money that the President promised wouldn't be required in the first place. I grant that they're entirely different things. But, if it's about the money, there are far more egregious situations where a similar amount of money was either given or taken. It is not the amount of the money. It is, for those of us who lived through 1979, a very tough pill to swallow. A better path would have been not to try to work out a nuclear deal because of the ugly, over 3 decades old history between our two nations? If that's how you truly feel, I suppose I can understand that but, by the same token, I'd have to think that any compromise would have been odious to you as well, no?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 9:51:23 GMT -5
The friends and family exception.
Nepotism is bad.
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 1, 2019 21:29:28 GMT -5
The friends and family exception. Nepotism is bad. Yes, and nepotism combined with despotism is particularly bad.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 21:34:17 GMT -5
At least he lets them know where to pay their bribes so nobody is confused about how to win favor with the President of the United States.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 11:35:34 GMT -5
So much for transparency.... Sigh..
Sarah Sanders has given only 6 briefings from the podium in the past 6 months and 12 days.
She's taken just 1 hour and 40 minutes of questions in over half a year.
Her salary is $179,700.
09/10 - 17:57 10/03 - 16:57 10/29 - 20:10 11/27 - 13:25 12/18 - 12:57 01/28 - 18:10
$900-a-minute to see her publicly answer questions from the press.
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 6, 2019 20:10:20 GMT -5
At least he lets them know where to pay their bribes so nobody is confused about how to win favor with the President of the United States. This is in-Trump of him. "Perhaps"?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 11:35:33 GMT -5
US household net worth dropped $3.5 trillion last quarter of 2018. Biggest drop since the stock market crash
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 10:13:35 GMT -5
"Witch Hunt!"
“‘Lock her up’ was wrong at campaign rallies, and it’s even worse coming from the Department of Justice,” said Austin Evers, who heads American Oversight. “Even after this long, it’s still deeply shocking to see the black and white proof that Jeff Sessions caved to President Trump’s worst authoritarian impulses and ordered a wide-ranging investigation of his political opponents based on demands from Congress instead of the facts and the law.”
“It strains credulity to believe that the Justice Department didn’t know about this letter when they swore under penalty of perjury that it didn’t exist–you don’t exactly forget about a formal directive to investigate Hillary Clinton signed by Jeff Sessions,” he added.
“The fact that they only ‘found’ it the same week Matthew Whitaker was heading for the exit makes it hard to see DOJ’s previous denial as anything but a deliberate attempt to conceal the extent to which President Trump’s authoritarian demands were being put into action. The authoritarian instinct in the Trump administration needs to be investigated. Sessions and Whitaker shouldn’t escape accountability by skipping town.”
You have to appreciate the Trump administrations commitment to lying about everything while leaving a paper trail showing they are liars.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 9:22:14 GMT -5
Trump's tweeting about this today which is hilarious, I guess..
It's on tape dude. It was humorous but not a big deal.
The fact that he's a pathological liar is a big deal though. It shouldn't be that way and government shouldn't be forced to bend its will to support his alternative reality.
Some more hits:
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 11, 2019 20:54:45 GMT -5
I think he was actually referring to apple fritters, crabapples or road apples. Something like that, anyway.
And, of course, we have the guy who has spent the last 2 1/2 years pandering to white supremacists and neo-Nazis, and who has been so "good for the Jews" that anti-Semitic incidents are skyrocketing since he took office, claiming that no Jew should vote for a Democrat. Trump's picture should appear next to the definition of scumbag in the dictionary.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 12, 2019 5:15:34 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 10:49:55 GMT -5
Remember when Trump ran on draining the swamp. That was hilarious....Most corrupt President of my lifetime by a wide margin.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Mar 12, 2019 12:55:45 GMT -5
Remember when Trump ran on draining the swamp. That was hilarious....Most corrupt President of my lifetime by a wide margin. One sad addition to that comment: no one needs to ask how old you are. You could be 20 or 200. The comment would still hold true.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 12, 2019 13:39:18 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 17:05:25 GMT -5
It's not really a question of wether or not these are the right decisions. It's more about how the decisions seem to get made.
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