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Post by SSHoya on Feb 6, 2021 6:49:14 GMT -5
Politics aside, there is a significant problem of late with networks where prime time is nothing but Northeastern grads. When once you had news anchors from different backgrounds, there is a subtle pattern of coastal bias on the news channels. Put another way, where does the anchor from the University of Missouri fit in these lineups? CNN: Erin Burnett, Williams Anderson Cooper, Yale Chris Cuomo, Yale Don Lemon, Brooklyn College MSNBC: Joy Reid, Harvard Chris Hayes, Brown Rachel Maddow, Stanford Lawrence O'Donnell, Harvard Brian Williams, George Washington, did not graduate Fox: Maria Bartiromo, NYU Tucker Carson, Trinity (CT) Sean Hannity: NYU, did not graduate Laura Ingraham, Dartmouth As for network news: CBS: Norah O'Donnell, Georgetown ABC: David Muir, Ithaca NBC: Lester Holt, Sacramento State, did not graduate Oh boo hoo. The "coastal elites" control the media? Elitists! Waah. Waah. And please complete your thought here. They aren't "real" Americans??? What's the conclusion you draw from this ?? What exactly is the "significant problem"? "Coastal bias"? White midwestern folks are the ultimate victims?? You must be an adherent of Peter Turchin. The fundamental problems, he says, are a dark triad of social maladies: a bloated elite class, with too few elite jobs to go around; declining living standards among the general population; and a government that can’t cover its financial positions. www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/12/can-history-predict-future/616993/The juxtaposition of the “real America” with “elitist America” exposes the actual meaning of all the endless denunciations of the elite. It is not anti-elitism. It is anti-intellectualism. As Richard Hofstadter documented and described in his historical classic, “Anti-Intellectualism in American Life,” many Americans reflexively distrust anyone who demonstrates expertise or excellence in analytical intelligence. It is not that Americans are not smart, Hofstadter explains, but that they often view the intellect as functional, namely in its capacity for commercial success. Donald Trump regularly struggles to form a coherent sentence, but many Americans believe him a genius, because he is a billionaire. www.salon.com/2016/11/20/real-americans-vs-coastal-elites-what-right-wing-sneers-at-city-dwellers-really-mean/Is this what you really mean? Of course, from a "coastal elite" rag. One of the most regular conservative arguments about politics and culture, which has been around at least since Spiro T. Agnew but has had a huge renaissance in the Trump era, is that liberal elites clustered in big cities, especially on the East and West Coasts, look down on, or at a minimum don’t understand, the plain and mostly white folk of the Great American Heartland. nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/05/do-coastal-liberals-hate-middle-america.html
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Feb 6, 2021 15:20:57 GMT -5
Politics aside, there is a significant problem of late with networks where prime time is nothing but Northeastern grads. When once you had news anchors from different backgrounds, there is a subtle pattern of coastal bias on the news channels. Put another way, where does the anchor from the University of Missouri fit in these lineups? CNN: Erin Burnett, Williams Anderson Cooper, Yale Chris Cuomo, Yale Don Lemon, Brooklyn College MSNBC: Joy Reid, Harvard Chris Hayes, Brown Rachel Maddow, Stanford Lawrence O'Donnell, Harvard Brian Williams, George Washington, did not graduate Fox: Maria Bartiromo, NYU Tucker Carson, Trinity (CT) Sean Hannity: NYU, did not graduate Laura Ingraham, Dartmouth As for network news: CBS: Norah O'Donnell, Georgetown ABC: David Muir, Ithaca NBC: Lester Holt, Sacramento State, did not graduate Where one went to college does NOT tell the complete story. One's family background... and where you grew up are factors, too, among other considerations. Personally I think things are more nuanced than you're suggesting, DFW. Besides, are you advocating diversity?! Blasphemer!!
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 6, 2021 17:34:38 GMT -5
Thanks you effing Republicans and your paid shysters. Feel very proud of yourselves? You supported this sociopath and continue to do so. Jerkwad hypocrites. President Donald Trump’s onslaught of falsehoods about the November election misled millions of Americans, undermined faith in the electoral system, sparked a deadly riot — and has now left taxpayers with a large, and growing, bill. The total so far: $519 million. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/cost-trump-election-fraud/?itid=hp-top-table-main-24
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 6, 2021 18:18:12 GMT -5
Oh boo hoo. The "coastal elites" control the media? Elitists! Waah. Waah. And please complete your thought here. They aren't "real" Americans??? What's the conclusion you draw from this ?? What exactly is the "significant problem"? "Coastal bias"? White midwestern folks are the ultimate victims?? I didn't use the word elite. And it's not about "elitism". It refers to a story from last week with quotes from former NBC news anchor Tom Brokaw. NEW YORK (AP) — If Tom Brokaw has one piece of advice to leave for television journalists upon his retirement, it’s to get out to more of the country —and not just to visit.
The Capitol insurrection is but one example of a story that might not have seemed as much a surprise if more journalists were attuned to communities outside of the power centers, the veteran NBC newsman said.
Television news is “much, much too wedded to the East Coast and West Coast only” and needs to expand its presence across the country.
“Take some of the people who are only in Washington and send them to Salt Lake City or Kansas City, or St. Louis for that matter,” he said in an interview with The Associated Press."
There's a story today that plays to this. "Inmates at a St. Louis jail set fires, caused flooding, broke out fourth-floor windows and tossed a stationary bike, chairs, mattresses and other things outside Saturday in the latest disturbance over concerns about the coronavirus pandemic and restrictions that have limited visits and stalled court proceedings, officials said.
Dozens of law enforcement officers worked for hours before bringing the riot at the St. Louis City Justice Center under control shortly before 10 a.m., a spokesman for Mayor Lyda Krewson, Jacob Long, said. About 115 inmates were involved, said Long, who described the group as “extremely violent and noncompliant” in an interview with The Associated Press."
If this had happened in the Queens County jail today, CNN would be full "breaking news" mode. Instead, it's quickly forgotten amidst weekend table talk on the networks -- Trump intelligence briefings, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Smartmatic, Lou Dobbs, et al.-- what might pass for chatter for the long-departed Georgetown salon set, but at the expense of larger issues (criminal justice and COVID) that isn't even on the radar to the prime time hosts. (Memo to the networks: no one cares about Lou Dobbs.) CNN has full time staff in 27 foreign bureaus, but invest in just three in the US outside its extant Atlanta headquarters: New York, Washington, and Los Angeles. One full time reporter covers an area in the South and Southwest with as many as 40 million people. And even if he's got a story (i.e., the rise of opoid abuse in Alabama, where in 2018 pharmacies wrote the equivalent of 97 prescriptions a year for every 100 residents in the state), it's not getting on prime time. Not for sinister motives, but that the hosts give it hardly a passing thought when it's not something that they give any thought to. That reference above to the University of Missouri was no accident--Missouri is regularly considered as the #1 or #2 ranked journalism school in the nation. But Missouri alumni are not going to be on the prime time lineups when a Brown or Yale grad that worked with a DC lobbyist or a New York production company is available first. The networks hire from within their own circles, and those people have generally little or no interest in stories from areas outside their comfort zone, and that comfort zone has shown time and time again to be within the epicenter of the Acela corridor and little else. That's not good for the industry and it's certainly not good for the public discourse.
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 6, 2021 18:53:44 GMT -5
Oh boo hoo. The "coastal elites" control the media? Elitists! Waah. Waah. And please complete your thought here. They aren't "real" Americans??? What's the conclusion you draw from this ?? What exactly is the "significant problem"? "Coastal bias"? White midwestern folks are the ultimate victims?? I didn't use the word elite. And it's not about "elitism". It refers to a story from last week with quotes from former NBC news anchor Tom Brokaw. NEW YORK (AP) — If Tom Brokaw has one piece of advice to leave for television journalists upon his retirement, it’s to get out to more of the country —and not just to visit.
The Capitol insurrection is but one example of a story that might not have seemed as much a surprise if more journalists were attuned to communities outside of the power centers, the veteran NBC newsman said.
Television news is “much, much too wedded to the East Coast and West Coast only” and needs to expand its presence across the country.
“Take some of the people who are only in Washington and send them to Salt Lake City or Kansas City, or St. Louis for that matter,” he said in an interview with The Associated Press."
There's a story today that plays to this. "Inmates at a St. Louis jail set fires, caused flooding, broke out fourth-floor windows and tossed a stationary bike, chairs, mattresses and other things outside Saturday in the latest disturbance over concerns about the coronavirus pandemic and restrictions that have limited visits and stalled court proceedings, officials said.
Dozens of law enforcement officers worked for hours before bringing the riot at the St. Louis City Justice Center under control shortly before 10 a.m., a spokesman for Mayor Lyda Krewson, Jacob Long, said. About 115 inmates were involved, said Long, who described the group as “extremely violent and noncompliant” in an interview with The Associated Press."
If this had happened in the Queens County jail today, CNN would be full "breaking news" mode. Instead, it's quickly forgotten amidst weekend table talk on the networks -- Trump intelligence briefings, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Smartmatic, Lou Dobbs, et al.-- what might pass for chatter for the long-departed Georgetown salon set, but at the expense of larger issues (criminal justice and COVID) that isn't even on the radar to the prime time hosts. (Memo to the networks: no one cares about Lou Dobbs.) CNN has full time staff in 27 foreign bureaus, but invest in just three in the US outside its extant Atlanta headquarters: New York, Washington, and Los Angeles. One full time reporter covers an area in the South and Southwest with as many as 40 million people. And even if he's got a story (i.e., the rise of opoid abuse in Alabama, where in 2018 pharmacies wrote the equivalent of 97 prescriptions a year for every 100 residents in the state), it's not getting on prime time. Not for sinister motives, but that the hosts give it hardly a passing thought when it's not something that they give any thought to. That reference above to the University of Missouri was no accident--Missouri is regularly considered as the #1 or #2 ranked journalism school in the nation. But Missouri alumni are not going to be on the prime time lineups when a Brown or Yale grad that worked with a DC lobbyist or a New York production company is available first. The networks hire from within their own circles, and those people have generally little or no interest in stories from areas outside their comfort zone, and that comfort zone has shown time and time again to be within the epicenter of the Acela corridor and little else. That's not good for the industry and it's certainly not good for the public discourse. I am well aware of Mizzou's jounalism school's reputation. And I'm not sure Brokaw is correct that journalists were surprised by the insurrection since they covered the Michigan legislature demonstrations and other protests at state legislatures. What may have been the surprise was actually the lack of proper preparation for the political violence visited by the sociopath's urging. And you believe that a GOP Congresswoman advocating the assassination of the Speaker of the House is not newsworthy? Are you seriously suggesting the major broadcast outlets haven't covered criminal justice and covid issues? I take issue that a prison riot in NYC would necessarily receive national broadcast coverage in the editorial decisions of what to include in a 22 minutes of a half hour of a nightly news brodadast setting aside the fact most Americans don't get the news from traditional broadcast outlets anymore. The major networks focus in national news issues by and large. And I've seen plenty of coverage on opioid issues in the midwest and covid outbreaks at meat processing plants in the Midwest as national news not to mention the various news magazines the broadcast networks have. www.cbsnews.com/news/st-louis-jail-inmates-set-fires-cause-flooding-break-out-windows/www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/115-inmates-take-over-section-downtown-st-louis-jail-n1256932
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 6, 2021 19:28:55 GMT -5
Much of my argument surrounds the cable news outlets (OK, Fox News is a stretch there) and their coverage of issues in prime time. The first N in CNN is news, not politics. The "N" in MSNBC still means "National". And to answer your question, the issue of criminal justice and COVID has gotten short shrift. States that have chosen to end trials and let defendants sit in jail indefinitely is not what the Sixth Amendment is all about. Now, of course, this has been going on before COVID, too. www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/slideshow/Stuck-in-jail-68771/photo-5084460.php
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 6, 2021 20:00:48 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 7, 2021 8:03:06 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 7, 2021 17:01:26 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 8, 2021 18:49:28 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 29, 2021 19:21:43 GMT -5
There must be something wrong with this picture, right? First Dominion files an action against everyone's favorite Pillow Guy. Now Dominion files an action against Fake News Network. But just the other day, everyone's favorite Pillow Guy said that Fake News Network was involved in a conspiracy against him. Golly, gee willikers, Batman, I'm confused.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 29, 2021 19:54:07 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 31, 2021 20:22:06 GMT -5
Poor Baby Huey is still at it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 10:47:36 GMT -5
It doesn’t seem like the Trump’s were successful at much. They were really good at Twitter though...
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Post by EasyEd on Apr 2, 2021 19:43:19 GMT -5
Did everybody like Hunter Biden's explanation of the famous laptop?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2021 20:56:02 GMT -5
Did everybody like Hunter Biden's explanation of the famous laptop? What is the story here again? I've never heard a clear explanation of what the scandal is.
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Post by tashoya on Apr 2, 2021 21:18:39 GMT -5
Did everybody like Hunter Biden's explanation of the famous laptop? Honestly, I didn't hear or read about it. Not because it's not newsworthy but because there's an ongoing investigation being conducted. What Hunter says, IMO, is much less important than what a thorough investigation reveals. That said, it wouldn't have occurred to me to Google Hunter Biden with the anti-American agenda of the former GOP playing out in real time in states like Georgia. I'll read up on Hunter Biden. How do you feel about the former GOP actively trying to disenfranchise minorities by blocking their access to voting?
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Post by tashoya on Apr 2, 2021 21:23:14 GMT -5
Did everybody like Hunter Biden's explanation of the famous laptop? What is the story here again? I've never heard a clear explanation of what the scandal is. Me neither. Months ago, when I was reading about it, it seemed like Republicans grasping at any last straw they could find. It didn't work out for them so they assisted in an attempt at insurrection. The sitting president included. Regardless of Hunter Biden's innocence or guilt, Republicans still, somehow, seem fine with a sitting president encouraging (at a minimum) an attempt at insurrection and the toppling of American democracy. And, apparently, Ed is in the camp of those focusing on, relatively, trivial accusations of a person that isn't elected to any office while the guy they support (and continue to) is, objectively, guilty of inciting an insurrection and, very possibly, treason. That's not even accounting for his own exceedingly sketchy financial dealings. I wonder if Trump ends up in prison if they'll finally admit they backed the wrong fat, stupid, racist horse. On edit: I realize the "fat" part was a cheap shot. I only included it because Trump is so vain that he blatantly lied about his own weight for 4 years and, somehow, got doctors to go along with it. Not surprising. We've seen Dr. Birx attempting to resurrect her reputation after having lied for the former president. She should lose her license to practice. As should any doctor that signed off on Trump's physical stating that he was either 241 or 239. We all have eyes and scales.
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