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Post by hoyajinx on May 26, 2020 14:11:51 GMT -5
Remember just a few weeks ago when he was saying that it would be 60K and keeping it under 100LK was a big win? Man, have the goalposts moved since then. If 1.5 million died, he would have said that without him 4 million would have died. It literally never ends. The fact that people can’t see through this ruse by now is beyond infuriating. This is further proof that no one has ever gone broke underestimating the stupidity of Americans.
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Post by SSHoya on May 26, 2020 14:31:00 GMT -5
Remember just a few weeks ago when he was saying that it would be 60K and keeping it under 100LK was a big win? Man, have the goalposts moved since then. If 1.5 million died, he would have said that without him 4 million would have died. It literally never ends. The fact that people can’t see through this ruse by now is beyond infuriating. This is further proof that no one has ever gone broke underestimating the stupidity of Americans. I would amend that to "no one has ever gone broke underestimating the stupidity of Republicans." FiveThirtyEight.com Trump approval rating today: Disapprove: 53.4 Approve: 43.0 Not a coincidence that Brazil with Bosinaro and the United States with Trump are competing for the highest covid-19 death toll in the world. Both called covid-19 no worse than the flu in the beginning. Both are malignant narcissists. Both are dumb as a box of rocks.
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Post by hoyajinx on May 26, 2020 15:13:47 GMT -5
If 1.5 million died, he would have said that without him 4 million would have died. It literally never ends. The fact that people can’t see through this ruse by now is beyond infuriating. This is further proof that no one has ever gone broke underestimating the stupidity of Americans. I would amend that to "no one has ever gone broke underestimating the stupidity of Republicans." FiveThrityEight.com Trump approval rating today: Disapprove: 53.4 Approve; 43.0 Not a coincidence that Brazil with Bosinaro and the United States with Trump are competing for the highest covid-19 death toll in the world. Both called covid-19 no worse than the flu in the beginning. Both are malignant narcissists. Both are dumb as a box of rocks. You will get no argument from me.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2020 16:56:21 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on May 26, 2020 16:59:46 GMT -5
Sadly. there are Hoyas who "support his agenda".
He's a sociopath. I'm waitng for him to weaponize the killing of George Floyd to fire up his racist base. He is a sick and twisted human being.
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Post by hoyarooter on May 26, 2020 20:01:20 GMT -5
Remember just a few weeks ago when he was saying that it would be 60K and keeping it under 100LK was a big win? Man, have the goalposts moved since then. If 1.5 million died, he would have said that without him 4 million would have died. It literally never ends. The fact that people can’t see through this ruse by now is beyond infuriating. This is further proof that no one has ever gone broke underestimating the stupidity of Americans. I was thinking exactly this, and you beat me to it. How can at least a few percent of those 43% not be chipped away by this horror show? American Horror Story doesn't need to look past The Trump Show for its next story line. He's obviously done the best job of any world leader. All the others should be modeling themselves after him. Anyone who says otherwise is just spreading fake news.
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Post by SSHoya on May 27, 2020 6:11:48 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on May 27, 2020 11:35:29 GMT -5
Trump - Profile of the Sociopath
1. Glibness and Superficial Charm.
2. Manipulative and Conning.
3. They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible.
4. Grandiose Sense of Self.
5. Pathological Lying.
6. Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt.
7. Shallow Emotions.
8. Incapacity for Love.
9. Need for Stimulation.
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Post by DallasHoya on May 27, 2020 12:35:44 GMT -5
The constant rants on this board about all Republicans being evil Trump cultists is false. National Review has been anti-Trump since its “Against Trump” edition in January 2016. Their latest editorial on his tweets is below. “No one goes to Donald Trump’s Twitter feed to be edified, but Trump’s series of tweets the last two weeks about MSNBC host Joe Scarborough has been grotesque even by his standards. Trump didn’t leave it at boasting about how he supposedly used Scarborough in 2016 (when the host gave him kid-glove treatment), or at mocking Scarborough’s ratings, or calling him “nuts,” all of which would have been routine unpresidential conduct, but insinuated that Scarborough is guilty of murdering a young woman who died in one of his Florida district offices in 2001 when he was a congressman. The medical examiner concluded that the woman, 28-year-old Lori Klausutis, had an undiagnosed heart ailment and fainted and hit her head on a desk. This tragedy has been fodder for conspiracy theorists almost from the beginning, most notably — until Trump surpassed him — Markos Moulitsas of the left-wing website Daily Kos. Trump is clearly driven by his desire to say the most malicious and painful things he can about Scarborough, to take revenge for the former congressman’s now obsessively anti-Trump morning program. The president maintains he doesn’t watch, although this is plainly untrue. The collateral damage is the family of Lori Klausutis, who had to endure her sudden loss and now watch helplessly as the president pushes a deception about her death for his own petty purposes. It’s unworthy of a partisan blogger, let alone the president of the United States.” www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/trumps-grotesque-tweets/
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Post by TC on May 27, 2020 13:00:40 GMT -5
The constant rants on this board about all Republicans being evil Trump cultists is false. National Review has been anti-Trump since its “Against Trump” edition in January 2016. Their latest editorial on his tweets is below. Well, of course they disavow him on this one. He's attacking a former Republican congressman, specifically making stuff up about what happened when he was a Republican congressman. That's their bread and butter, the people they ID with. Trump attacks anyone else and they'll spend one paragraph disavowing whatever Trump said and 5 on the real problem being {insert group that isn't Republican congressman}.
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Post by SSHoya on May 27, 2020 13:04:01 GMT -5
The constant rants on this board about all Republicans being evil Trump cultists is false. National Review has been anti-Trump since its “Against Trump” edition in January 2016. Their latest editorial on his tweets is below. Well, of course they disavow him on this one. He's attacking a former Republican congressman, specifically making stuff up about what happened when he was a Republican congressman. That's their bread and butter, the people they ID with. Trump attacks anyone else and they'll spend one paragraph disavowing whatever Trump said and 5 on the real problem being {insert group that isn't Republican congressman}. Trump enjoys a 92% approval rating among Republicans. Gallup May 1 - 13, 2020. That's pretty much the whole party minus the GOPers in the Lincoln Project such as George Conway who still maintains party membership AFAIK. Other Republicans have fled the GOP, Justin Amash, Steve Schmidt. Rick Wilson, Nicole Wallace, and are now former Republicans. Perhaps I'm only 92% correct ( only 8% false!) with respect to the Republican Party, and that 92% represents an ever shrinking sample size, with nothing but Trump cultists remaining? Call it "truthful hyperbole"? Ha ha. Trump cultists are clueless. news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx
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Post by SSHoya on May 27, 2020 14:08:29 GMT -5
The constant rants on this board about all Republicans being evil Trump cultists is false. National Review has been anti-Trump since its “Against Trump” edition in January 2016. Their latest editorial on his tweets is below. “No one goes to Donald Trump’s Twitter feed to be edified, but Trump’s series of tweets the last two weeks about MSNBC host Joe Scarborough has been grotesque even by his standards. Trump didn’t leave it at boasting about how he supposedly used Scarborough in 2016 (when the host gave him kid-glove treatment), or at mocking Scarborough’s ratings, or calling him “nuts,” all of which would have been routine unpresidential conduct, but insinuated that Scarborough is guilty of murdering a young woman who died in one of his Florida district offices in 2001 when he was a congressman. The medical examiner concluded that the woman, 28-year-old Lori Klausutis, had an undiagnosed heart ailment and fainted and hit her head on a desk. This tragedy has been fodder for conspiracy theorists almost from the beginning, most notably — until Trump surpassed him — Markos Moulitsas of the left-wing website Daily Kos. Trump is clearly driven by his desire to say the most malicious and painful things he can about Scarborough, to take revenge for the former congressman’s now obsessively anti-Trump morning program. The president maintains he doesn’t watch, although this is plainly untrue. The collateral damage is the family of Lori Klausutis, who had to endure her sudden loss and now watch helplessly as the president pushes a deception about her death for his own petty purposes. It’s unworthy of a partisan blogger, let alone the president of the United States.” www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/trumps-grotesque-tweets/ www.adn.com/opinions/national-opinions/2020/02/09/challenging-trump-for-the-gop-nomination-taught-me-my-party-is-a-cult/“My party is a cult. I’m a conservative Republican; Fox News won’t have me on. Conservative media will ignore me because they’re a cult with Trump. The Republican parties in each state: they are a cult for Trump. I didn’t sufficiently get all of that and that’s made this really hard.” amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/02/republican-joe-walsh-iowa-trump?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15906064111836&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fus-news%2F2020%2Ffeb%2F02%2Frepublican-joe-walsh-iowa-trumpThe question almost feels like a provocation. And yet more and more people, like veteran Republican strategist John Weaver, are comfortable saying, “Yes.” www-vox-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2019/12/13/20992370/trump-republican-party-cult-steven-hassan?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15906066879726&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vox.com%2Fpolicy-and-politics%2F2019%2F12%2F13%2F20992370%2Ftrump-republican-party-cult-steven-hassan
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Post by DallasHoya on May 27, 2020 14:19:15 GMT -5
Well, of course they disavow him on this one. He's attacking a former Republican congressman, specifically making stuff up about what happened when he was a Republican congressman. That's their bread and butter, the people they ID with. Trump attacks anyone else and they'll spend one paragraph disavowing whatever Trump said and 5 on the real problem being {insert group that isn't Republican congressman}. Trump enjoys a 92% approval rating among Republicans. Gallup May 1 - 13, 2020. That's pretty much the whole party minus the GOPers in the Lincoln Project such as George Conway who still maintains party membership AFAIK. Other Republicans have fled the GOP, Justin Amash, Steve Schmidt. Rick Wilson, Nicole Wallace, and are now former Republicans. Perhaps I'm only 92% correct ( only 8% false!) with respect to the Republican Party, and that 92% represents an ever shrinking sample size, with nothing but Trump cultists remaining? Call it "truthful hyperbole"? Ha ha. Trump cultists are clueless. news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspxThe most prominent conservative publication in the United States published a special issue in January 2016 with “Anti-Trump” on the cover. And they’ve been consistent on that point for four years. It’s been a lot more than “on this one” and “one paragraph.” It’s as if a conservative could shoot Trump on Fifth Avenue and not get any credit from you.
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Post by SSHoya on May 27, 2020 14:31:44 GMT -5
Trump enjoys a 92% approval rating among Republicans. Gallup May 1 - 13, 2020. That's pretty much the whole party minus the GOPers in the Lincoln Project such as George Conway who still maintains party membership AFAIK. Other Republicans have fled the GOP, Justin Amash, Steve Schmidt. Rick Wilson, Nicole Wallace, and are now former Republicans. Perhaps I'm only 92% correct ( only 8% false!) with respect to the Republican Party, and that 92% represents an ever shrinking sample size, with nothing but Trump cultists remaining? Call it "truthful hyperbole"? Ha ha. Trump cultists are clueless. news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspxThe most prominent conservative publication in the United States published a special issue in January 2016 with “Anti-Trump” on the cover. And they’ve been consistent on that point for four years. It’s been a lot more than “on this one” and “one paragraph.” It’s as if a conservative could shoot Trump on Fifth Avenue and not get any credit from you. The issue was about the Republican Party and its cult-like support of Trump. I do not nor have I ever posited that conservatives have become a Trump cult. Trump is not a conservative. I infer that you and I agree upon that. EDIT: I am aware that NR has been opposed to Trump. What is your response to the fact that the overwhelming majority of self-identified REPUBLICANS (not conservatives - I'm certain George Conway is a still a conservative) have a cult-like support of Trump? And I wouldn't credit anyone for shooting Trump on 5th Avenue as I do not advocate violence as part of American politics unlike Trump and some of his cult followers. PS The most prominent Evagelical publication, Christianity Today, also opposed Trump as much as it could under law in 2016 calling him morally unfit to lead the nation. Yet 85-90% of self-identified Evangelical Cheistians support Trump. Thus, your reference to the NR as a longtime opponent of Trump is similarly irrelevant with respect to the GOP's support of Trump. And therefore it is completely consistent that Trump is an idolater in many other ways. He has given no evidence of humility or dependence on others, let alone on God his Maker and Judge. He wantonly celebrates strongmen and takes every opportunity to humiliate and demean the vulnerable. He shows no curiosity or capacity to learn. He is, in short, the very embodiment of what the Bible calls a fool. www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2016/october-web-only/speak-truth-to-trump.htmlFURTHER EDIT: The only Republicans to criticize Trump's Scaraborough tweets: Romney, Cheney, and Kinzinger. Quite the profiles in courage in the Republican Party, no? The rest are complicit in Trump's insanity.
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Post by DallasHoya on May 27, 2020 16:35:45 GMT -5
The most prominent conservative publication in the United States published a special issue in January 2016 with “Anti-Trump” on the cover. And they’ve been consistent on that point for four years. It’s been a lot more than “on this one” and “one paragraph.” It’s as if a conservative could shoot Trump on Fifth Avenue and not get any credit from The issue was about the Republican Party and its cult-like support of Trump. I do not nor have I ever posited that conservatives have become a Trump cult. You have posted multiple times about how “all republicans” are Trump cultists. Since most conservatives are republicans, I just assumed you thought conservatives were, too. Glad to hear that you would agree that conservatives have not become a Trump cult. I would absolutely agree that the overwhelming majority of self-identified Republicans (not conservatives) have a cult-like support of Trump. I would disagree that’s a “fact.” You’re a smart guy so I think you know that my last comment was just a play on Trump’s comment that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose any supporters. Here’s what else I think: The GOP’s embrace of Trump is likely going to ensure that we won’t have another GOP President elected in the next 20 years. And I don’t think that’s a good thing for the country. Biden is a bit of scum bag in him as well. His repeated story about how his wife and daughter were killed by a drunk driver is demonstrably false and yet he keeps repeating it. Not at Trump’s level, but there are lots of other lies. If Biden picks a very liberal VP nominee and performs in the debates like he’s been performing online the past two weeks, I can see Trump getting reelected. I thought Biden performed quite well in the last democratic debate, but who knows which Biden is going to show up. But if he picks someone like Klobuchar and stays relatively centrist, I think he carries a huge number of disaffected voters (regardless of what the polls say today about republican voters support of Trump). Biden won’t get elected because of the left, he’ll get elected because of the center. My personal hope is that Trump is defeated but the republicans keep the Senate because goods things rarely happen when one party is in charge of both the executive branch and all of Congress. All that said, I somewhat torn. On the one hand, I plan to retire next year, at which point I think raising taxes on the rich is a fine idea and expanding Medicare to age 60 is even better, both of which Biden has said he supports. On the other hand, he did graduate at the bottom of his law school class at The Most Despicable University in the World (and lied about that, too). But I guess that’s why voting is done in secret.
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Post by hoyarooter on May 27, 2020 20:33:15 GMT -5
The issue was about the Republican Party and its cult-like support of Trump. I do not nor have I ever posited that conservatives have become a Trump cult. You have posted multiple times about how “all republicans” are Trump cultists. Since most conservatives are republicans, I just assumed you thought conservatives were, too. Glad to hear that you would agree that conservatives have not become a Trump cult. I would absolutely agree that the overwhelming majority of self-identified Republicans (not conservatives) have a cult-like support of Trump. I would disagree that’s a “fact.” You’re a smart guy so I think you know that my last comment was just a play on Trump’s comment that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose any supporters. Here’s what else I think: The GOP’s embrace of Trump is likely going to ensure that we won’t have another GOP President elected in the next 20 years. And I don’t think that’s a good thing for the country. Biden is a bit of scum bag in him as well. His repeated story about how his wife and daughter were killed by a drunk driver is demonstrably false and yet he keeps repeating it. Not at Trump’s level, but there are lots of other lies. If Biden picks a very liberal VP nominee and performs in the debates like he’s been performing online the past two weeks, I can see Trump getting reelected. I thought Biden performed quite well in the last democratic debate, but who knows which Biden is going to show up. But if he picks someone like Klobuchar and stays relatively centrist, I think he carries a huge number of disaffected voters (regardless of what the polls say today about republican voters support of Trump). Biden won’t get elected because of the left, he’ll get elected because of the center. My personal hope is that Trump is defeated but the republicans keep the Senate because goods things rarely happen when one party is in charge of both the executive branch and all of Congress. All that said, I somewhat torn. On the one hand, I plan to retire next year, at which point I think raising taxes on the rich is a fine idea and expanding Medicare to age 60 is even better, both of which Biden has said he supports. On the other hand, he did graduate at the bottom of his law school class at The Most Despicable University in the World (and lied about that, too). But I guess that’s why voting is done in secret. I am not a conservative Republican, but agree wholeheartedly with your comments on Biden, which is why I have a high level of discomfort with his pending nomination. I am just hoping that during the campaign he doesn't embarrass himself or let Scumbag Don push him around, but I fear that both of those things will happen.
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Post by flyoverhoya on May 28, 2020 8:57:23 GMT -5
The issue was about the Republican Party and its cult-like support of Trump. My personal hope is that Trump is defeated but the republicans keep the Senate because goods things rarely happen when one party is in charge of both the executive branch and all of Congress. I've historically been a fan of gridlock, on a "the less they do the better off I am" principle. However, I think this time around, there's a very real risk that a Republican Senate would not confirm a single Biden-appointed judge. I think the system's that broken.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 10:09:52 GMT -5
McConnell is worse than Trump. He's done far more than Trump to destroy democratic norms than Trump has and it's not even a close call. Majority of Republicans in the Senate, aside from Romney and Burr on occasion, have done nothing but back Trump almost all of the time. Trump's accusing a guy of murder and there's been 3 Senators who have lightly pushed back. He's said the previous President should be in jail for a crime he's yet to mention and all they've done is stay silent and start a sham investigation. Without Republicans in the Senate he would have very little power. Republican partisan unity is what makes Trumpism so dangerous.
There's no logical reason why they deserve to retain power. If the economy doesn't rebound quickly you can guarantee they won't lift a finger to help those families hurting and will pivot to deficit reduction just like the did under Obama. They've proven that they only care about self interest and view everything under the lens of what helps them politically. They choked the economy under Obama and they were all in on stimulus once Trump got in. Look at the deficit from there to now.
Personally I appreciate any Republican or Conservative that rejects Trumpism. Nothing but love for folks who are willing to put what's best for the country over personal political interest. When Republicans or Conservatives are talked about broadly it's mostly referring to the people in power enabling this guy.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 10:27:20 GMT -5
Speaker in the video: "The only good Democrat is a dead Democrat"
Trump: Thank you Cowboys. See you in New Mexico!
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Post by hoya9797 on May 28, 2020 10:29:52 GMT -5
We fought wars to get rid of leaders that had the exact same instincts as Trump.
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