95hoya
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Post by 95hoya on Dec 28, 2018 12:19:21 GMT -5
Lots of hot takes here. Before the 3 point shot, real defense wasn't played. You could just play off guys and defend the drives. You could be slow, unathletic, and still be able to guard. Those guys deservedly get exposed.
Gimme a break with the 3s is for the lesser skilled. Shots around the paint is what true skill looks like? If you don't want a guy to shoot a 3 it's not hard to take that away, you just have to be willing to give up a 2 or you know, play actual defense.
There's actual defensive strategy and team defensive concepts today. It's amazing what NBA teams can do defensively. The Warrior's team defense is a thing of beauty.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 28, 2018 12:30:07 GMT -5
Lots of hot takes here. Before the 3 point shot, real defense wasn't played. John Thompson might disagree. So would a lot of Georgetown's opponents.
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95hoya
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Post by 95hoya on Dec 28, 2018 12:44:50 GMT -5
It's so hard to play defense when you know where the majority of the shots will be taken. It's hilarious to me that someone can say that settling for 3s means someone is short on skill but a guy not able to defend out to 25 feet isn't lacking in skill.
The game is much better now that lumbering 7 footers can't just stand in front of the rim all game and contest short range shots.
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95hoya
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Post by 95hoya on Dec 28, 2018 12:47:06 GMT -5
Lots of hot takes here. Before the 3 point shot, real defense wasn't played. John Thompson might disagree. So would a lot of Georgetown's opponents. Yeah I really doubt it. If you can't evolve and adapt to the game today which features far more skill than you are a dinosaur and get phased out pretty quickly.
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 28, 2018 20:33:38 GMT -5
It's so hard to play defense when you know where the majority of the shots will be taken. It's hilarious to me that someone can say that settling for 3s means someone is short on skill but a guy not able to defend out to 25 feet isn't lacking in skill. The game is much better now that lumbering 7 footers can't just stand in front of the rim all game and contest short range shots. Roy Hibbert says up yours.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 21:08:27 GMT -5
Lots of hot takes here. Before the 3 point shot, real defense wasn't played. You could just play off guys and defend the drives. You could be slow, unathletic, and still be able to guard. Those guys deservedly get exposed. Gimme a break with the 3s is for the lesser skilled. Shots around the paint is what true skill looks like? If you don't want a guy to shoot a 3 it's not hard to take that away, you just have to be willing to give up a 2 or you know, play actual defense. There's actual defensive strategy and team defensive concepts today. It's amazing what NBA teams can do defensively. The Warrior's team defense is a thing of beauty. I'd say The 3pt shot created real defenseis a much hotter take than It's irrational to give 50% more points to a shot that is inherently easier to get off.Nobody said outside shooting isn't a skill - it's obviously a huge one. Just like speed, passing, ball handling, free throw shooting, size, etc. But not even Steph Curry passes up a 1-on-0 breakaway layup/dunk to stop and shoot a jumper. The goal of the game continues to be: get a shot at the goal, and if you can't... get the best one you can. If competent outside shooting helps those who don't regularly get shots at the goal (smaller, slower, less athletic, whatever), that's great. But why reward them more for that? At this point you've changed the math way too much. There's never been a team that featured 5 7-footers and there's never been an era where smaller guys were left out of the game. From Carl Braun to Bob Cousy to Jerry West to Dave Bing to Nate Archibald, little guys didn't need a 3 pointer to play at a Hall of Fame level. Bottom line is: the 3 point shot is just a gimmick - made for the fans. Like frontcourt inbounding in the NBA. You like it? That's fine. But last year's Rockets shot about 3000 more threes than the '86 Celtics (close to 40 more per game). But they should - the math makes sense. They're terrible to watch, a team full of mediocrity (after Paul & Harden), and were still an unfortunate injury away from beating the Warriors. The Warriors? Sure - they're fun to watch. A unique team that's managed to get 2 of the great all-time offensive players in the league together (plus some All-Star level sidekicks). But there are far more teams out there who look like the '17-'18 Rockets than the Warriors.
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