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Post by ewingitrust on Nov 16, 2018 23:48:09 GMT -5
This loss will benefit in the long run. Teachable moment...the staff and players were humbled. I think we'll see a different team come Sunday.
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Post by tashoya on Nov 16, 2018 23:50:44 GMT -5
Words of wisdom from Trey... I love that Trey keeps up with his guys. Say what you will about how last season went but that guy is the type of person you want on a team. I think he's back overseas now too and he's still dialed in.
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Post by mapei on Nov 17, 2018 3:34:12 GMT -5
Most of the comments have been about our lack of offense against the zone, but for me the story of the game was offensive rebounds by LMU and turnovers (again) forced by their defense. Also, we had no consistent answer for Batemon. We need to rebound better and protect the ball better. Clean those things up (if we can) and it's a very different game.
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Post by nattybumpo3152 on Nov 17, 2018 5:00:04 GMT -5
McClung had opportunities to pull up and shoot the three. The commentators even wondered aloud why he wasn't taking shots that he was in the best position to take. Well, here's the reason. The kid is so intimidated by Ewing that he is afraid to make a mistake. Mac's confidence is at an all time low. It's been shakened so badly, that Mac truly is afraid to take a jump shot. Anyone who can't see that is blind. Ewing has got to lighten up on Mac when he makes a mistake. Mac is so afraid to make a mistake he's passing up shots he should be taking... and taking without a damned care in the world. When he gets his confidence back, Georgetown's fortunes will be dramatically reversed, because, without a doubt, Mac is the best athlete on the team, and it's not even close. So, Ewing needs to lighten up and encourage Mac to shoot without second guessing himself. Right now, I'm going to bite my tongue and not let the "racism" word slip out, but what I'm beginning to see are two standards emerging with respect to player discipline. Akinjo makes a mistake... a bad pass, a bad shot, a bad call and guess what happens? NOTHING!!! Mac makes even the slightest mistake and Ewing yanks him out of the game. See what I mean? Mac is a much better natural athlete than Akinjo, and if Ewing lets him become his own man... like Jeff Green advises... Mac will lead this team to victory, time after time. Maybe there's no racism involved, but why is Akinjo given special dispensation when he makes a mistake and Mac is punitively benched?
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Nov 17, 2018 5:58:02 GMT -5
McClung had opportunities to pull up and shoot the three. The commentators even wondered aloud why he wasn't taking shots that he was in the best position to take. Well, here's the reason. The kid is so intimidated by Ewing that he is afraid to make a mistake. Mac's confidence is at an all time low. It's been shakened so badly, that Mac truly is afraid to take a jump shot. Anyone who can't see that is blind. Ewing has got to lighten up on Mac when he makes a mistake. Mac is so afraid to make a mistake he's passing up shots he should be taking... and taking without a damned care in the world. When he gets his confidence back, Georgetown's fortunes will be dramatically reversed, because, without a doubt, Mac is the best athlete on the team, and it's not even close. So, Ewing needs to lighten up and encourage Mac to shoot without second guessing himself. Right now, I'm going to bite my tongue and not let the "racism" word slip out, but what I'm beginning to see are two standards emerging with respect to player discipline. Akinjo makes a mistake... a bad pass, a bad shot, a bad call and guess what happens? NOTHING!!! Mac makes even the slightest mistake and Ewing yanks him out of the game. See what I mean? Mac is a much better natural athlete than Akinjo, and if Ewing lets him become his own man... like Jeff Green advises... Mac will lead this team to victory, time after time. Maybe there's no racism involved, but why is Akinjo given special dispensation when he makes a mistake and Mac is punitively benched? This is pure nonsense. His confidence is shaken because he hasn't just missed every single 3 pt shot that he has taken, but I can't even recall one that has come close to hitting the bottom of the net. Despite that, he still got 20 minutes of action against a team doing a good job of playing a zone defense which right now is not a good matchup for him. The last thing I want him doing is hoisting up more 3's like this is high school and he needs to try to shoot his team out of it. I believe he got pulled yesterday and chewed out for the ill advised 1 on 2 behind the back dribble that he lost and luckily ended up in Govan's hands. Mac can jump better than Akinjo but that is about where the competition ends as far as true basketball talent as they sit here today at this level. Mac is going to have a very good career because like our other freshman, he has that fire that will keep him working on his weaknesses. He is going to need time to continue to develop. By the way, Akinjo got pulled as well in the 2nd half and sat for a time when Ewing was Editeded at his decision making. He went back to him and Mac when it became apparent that we weren't getting any scoring out of the group on the floor and that's when Mac tried the behind the back dribble move that fortunately didn't end in a turnover.
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 17, 2018 6:56:21 GMT -5
I think our team played up against Illinois because the crowd/atmosphere was great/loud. This game was the total opposite from a crowd/atmosphere standpoint. Does not bode well for the small crowds at MCI/Verizon/Cap. So we're gonna beat down Syracuse at the Dome? I'll take it!
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 17, 2018 7:02:55 GMT -5
McClung had opportunities to pull up and shoot the three. The commentators even wondered aloud why he wasn't taking shots that he was in the best position to take. Well, here's the reason. The kid is so intimidated by Ewing that he is afraid to make a mistake. Mac's confidence is at an all time low. It's been shakened so badly, that Mac truly is afraid to take a jump shot. Anyone who can't see that is blind. Ewing has got to lighten up on Mac when he makes a mistake. Mac is so afraid to make a mistake he's passing up shots he should be taking... and taking without a damned care in the world. When he gets his confidence back, Georgetown's fortunes will be dramatically reversed, because, without a doubt, Mac is the best athlete on the team, and it's not even close. So, Ewing needs to lighten up and encourage Mac to shoot without second guessing himself. Right now, I'm going to bite my tongue and not let the "racism" word slip out, but what I'm beginning to see are two standards emerging with respect to player discipline. Akinjo makes a mistake... a bad pass, a bad shot, a bad call and guess what happens? NOTHING!!! Mac makes even the slightest mistake and Ewing yanks him out of the game. See what I mean? Mac is a much better natural athlete than Akinjo, and if Ewing lets him become his own man... like Jeff Green advises... Mac will lead this team to victory, time after time. Maybe there's no racism involved, but why is Akinjo given special dispensation when he makes a mistake and Mac is punitively benched? Racism? Ha ha ha. That's nuts. How do you account for Coach Ewing recruiting Mac in the first place and taking Malinowski as transfer?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 17, 2018 7:34:40 GMT -5
McClung had opportunities to pull up and shoot the three. The commentators even wondered aloud why he wasn't taking shots that he was in the best position to take. Well, here's the reason. The kid is so intimidated by Ewing that he is afraid to make a mistake. Mac's confidence is at an all time low. It's been shakened so badly, that Mac truly is afraid to take a jump shot. Anyone who can't see that is blind. Ewing has got to lighten up on Mac when he makes a mistake. Mac is so afraid to make a mistake he's passing up shots he should be taking... and taking without a damned care in the world. When he gets his confidence back, Georgetown's fortunes will be dramatically reversed, because, without a doubt, Mac is the best athlete on the team, and it's not even close. So, Ewing needs to lighten up and encourage Mac to shoot without second guessing himself. Right now, I'm going to bite my tongue and not let the "racism" word slip out, but what I'm beginning to see are two standards emerging with respect to player discipline. Akinjo makes a mistake... a bad pass, a bad shot, a bad call and guess what happens? NOTHING!!! Mac makes even the slightest mistake and Ewing yanks him out of the game. See what I mean? Mac is a much better natural athlete than Akinjo, and if Ewing lets him become his own man... like Jeff Green advises... Mac will lead this team to victory, time after time. Maybe there's no racism involved, but why is Akinjo given special dispensation when he makes a mistake and Mac is punitively benched? Silliest post of the year. Patrick got on Mac a couple of times after wild, out of control passes or drives. For all if his ability, Mac needs to learn to play within himself. And Patrick pulled James yesterday when he was playing out of control as well. Ewing has made it crystal clear that James AND Mac are his guards going forward. But he has also shown us since he came on board that he is a teacher, and will pull a kid when a mistake is made - not as punishment, but fir the opportunity to stress a coaching point. Go ahead and ask Mac - he has zero problem with the way Patrick is handling him. Mac is a freshman who became hesitant to pull the trigger as the misses piled up. Patrick will stress that he needs to be able to let it fly when he is open. He will be fine.
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Post by bigskyhoya on Nov 17, 2018 7:59:01 GMT -5
How many uncontested layups did LMU have? The D was awful.
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Post by Elvado on Nov 17, 2018 8:02:23 GMT -5
The entire team, including staff, got its ass handed to it last night.
The thing to watch is how the team, including staff, responds.
I have a great deal of confidence in Patrick in this regard.
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Post by bigelephant on Nov 17, 2018 8:04:50 GMT -5
McClung had opportunities to pull up and shoot the three. The commentators even wondered aloud why he wasn't taking shots that he was in the best position to take. Well, here's the reason. The kid is so intimidated by Ewing that he is afraid to make a mistake. Mac's confidence is at an all time low. It's been shakened so badly, that Mac truly is afraid to take a jump shot. Anyone who can't see that is blind. Ewing has got to lighten up on Mac when he makes a mistake. Mac is so afraid to make a mistake he's passing up shots he should be taking... and taking without a damned care in the world. When he gets his confidence back, Georgetown's fortunes will be dramatically reversed, because, without a doubt, Mac is the best athlete on the team, and it's not even close. So, Ewing needs to lighten up and encourage Mac to shoot without second guessing himself. Right now, I'm going to bite my tongue and not let the "racism" word slip out, but what I'm beginning to see are two standards emerging with respect to player discipline. Akinjo makes a mistake... a bad pass, a bad shot, a bad call and guess what happens? NOTHING!!! Mac makes even the slightest mistake and Ewing yanks him out of the game. See what I mean? Mac is a much better natural athlete than Akinjo, and if Ewing lets him become his own man... like Jeff Green advises... Mac will lead this team to victory, time after time. Maybe there's no racism involved, but why is Akinjo given special dispensation when he makes a mistake and Mac is punitively benched? The racism thing is pure pure pure Bulls**t
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Post by Elvado on Nov 17, 2018 8:11:03 GMT -5
McClung had opportunities to pull up and shoot the three. The commentators even wondered aloud why he wasn't taking shots that he was in the best position to take. Well, here's the reason. The kid is so intimidated by Ewing that he is afraid to make a mistake. Mac's confidence is at an all time low. It's been shakened so badly, that Mac truly is afraid to take a jump shot. Anyone who can't see that is blind. Ewing has got to lighten up on Mac when he makes a mistake. Mac is so afraid to make a mistake he's passing up shots he should be taking... and taking without a damned care in the world. When he gets his confidence back, Georgetown's fortunes will be dramatically reversed, because, without a doubt, Mac is the best athlete on the team, and it's not even close. So, Ewing needs to lighten up and encourage Mac to shoot without second guessing himself. Right now, I'm going to bite my tongue and not let the "racism" word slip out, but what I'm beginning to see are two standards emerging with respect to player discipline. Akinjo makes a mistake... a bad pass, a bad shot, a bad call and guess what happens? NOTHING!!! Mac makes even the slightest mistake and Ewing yanks him out of the game. See what I mean? Mac is a much better natural athlete than Akinjo, and if Ewing lets him become his own man... like Jeff Green advises... Mac will lead this team to victory, time after time. Maybe there's no racism involved, but why is Akinjo given special dispensation when he makes a mistake and Mac is punitively benched? Dear God is this stupid.
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Post by 95hoya on Nov 17, 2018 8:34:16 GMT -5
I try to be respectful of people's opinions regardless of how ridiculous they are but that post is garbage and has no place on here. Truth is, Mac has no business starting and playing the amount he has for a program like Georgetown at this point in his career. He's been really bad and overwhelmed. I don't think another coach would allow him to shoot 0 for 14 from 3 and make the mistakes he's made and still stick with him. But Pat believes in the kid, recruited him to a school that has the black players only stereotype and made him a day 1 starter. I think his only other P5 offer was Rutgers. And you want to say he's being treated unfairly? That is nonsense. Akinjo is the better player and the only real point guard on the roster.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Nov 17, 2018 8:41:59 GMT -5
Mama said there were going to be nights like this....
(1). At a certain level, throw all the analysis out the window. You simply can't win when you shoot like that from three, especially when the opponent plays a lot of zone.
(2). That said, a lot of those threes weren't good looks. A number were contested shots after one or two passes.
(3). Dribble drive isn't always the answer. Sure, you can ball screen a zone, look to drive, and then kick. But it seemed like that was all we were trying. Sometimes some good old fashioned passing and ball reversal makes sense.
(4). The D was good enough to win. It wasn't stupendous but it was good enough.....couple of shot clock violations, 10 second violation, overall excellent FG% against. The offense let us down.
(5). The number of boards we gave up was concerning but it felt to me (at least on the defensive glass) that so many of LMU's misses were so off the mark that they resulted in odd bounces. I guess I reserve judgment on our rebounding.
(6). Run, run, run. If we are gonna be a fast paced team, we have to be able to do it when the other team doesn't want to. The press has to be more effective. And we have to be able to get the outlet quicker to the guards when we get boards.
Last but not least.....none of us knows how good Illinois or LMU will be, so celebrating or bemoaning wins and losses based on the opponent seems silly at this point. I'm much more interested in how we look and develop.
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Post by calhoya on Nov 17, 2018 9:11:11 GMT -5
McClung had opportunities to pull up and shoot the three. The commentators even wondered aloud why he wasn't taking shots that he was in the best position to take. Well, here's the reason. The kid is so intimidated by Ewing that he is afraid to make a mistake. Mac's confidence is at an all time low. It's been shakened so badly, that Mac truly is afraid to take a jump shot. Anyone who can't see that is blind. Ewing has got to lighten up on Mac when he makes a mistake. Mac is so afraid to make a mistake he's passing up shots he should be taking... and taking without a damned care in the world. When he gets his confidence back, Georgetown's fortunes will be dramatically reversed, because, without a doubt, Mac is the best athlete on the team, and it's not even close. So, Ewing needs to lighten up and encourage Mac to shoot without second guessing himself. Right now, I'm going to bite my tongue and not let the "racism" word slip out, but what I'm beginning to see are two standards emerging with respect to player discipline. Akinjo makes a mistake... a bad pass, a bad shot, a bad call and guess what happens? NOTHING!!! Mac makes even the slightest mistake and Ewing yanks him out of the game. See what I mean? Mac is a much better natural athlete than Akinjo, and if Ewing lets him become his own man... like Jeff Green advises... Mac will lead this team to victory, time after time. Maybe there's no racism involved, but why is Akinjo given special dispensation when he makes a mistake and Mac is punitively benched? Can this possibly be serious! Ewing appears completely colorblind in coaching, recruiting and interacting with the community. McClung is a highlight reel star because of the combination of his athleticism, his intensity and weak opposition in high school. Akinjo has been benched, yelled at and put back in to the game--just like McClung. Simple fact is that today Akinjo is a more developed player than McClung, who still needs to improve dramatically on defense and his perimeter game. McClung is going to be a very good player but I am tired already of the hype--let's let this kid develop and be coached along the way without anointing him too early. Hoyas lost last night because they played horribly, without focus or intensity. The loss is on the players and the coaching staff. Tomorrow could very well be just as bad.
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Post by dchoya72 on Nov 17, 2018 10:03:41 GMT -5
McClung had opportunities to pull up and shoot the three. The commentators even wondered aloud why he wasn't taking shots that he was in the best position to take. Well, here's the reason. The kid is so intimidated by Ewing that he is afraid to make a mistake. Mac's confidence is at an all time low. It's been shakened so badly, that Mac truly is afraid to take a jump shot. Anyone who can't see that is blind. Ewing has got to lighten up on Mac when he makes a mistake. Mac is so afraid to make a mistake he's passing up shots he should be taking... and taking without a damned care in the world. When he gets his confidence back, Georgetown's fortunes will be dramatically reversed, because, without a doubt, Mac is the best athlete on the team, and it's not even close. So, Ewing needs to lighten up and encourage Mac to shoot without second guessing himself. Right now, I'm going to bite my tongue and not let the "racism" word slip out, but what I'm beginning to see are two standards emerging with respect to player discipline. Akinjo makes a mistake... a bad pass, a bad shot, a bad call and guess what happens? NOTHING!!! Mac makes even the slightest mistake and Ewing yanks him out of the game. See what I mean? Mac is a much better natural athlete than Akinjo, and if Ewing lets him become his own man... like Jeff Green advises... Mac will lead this team to victory, time after time. Maybe there's no racism involved, but why is Akinjo given special dispensation when he makes a mistake and Mac is punitively benched? This logic and rationale is bs. Racism came out! Bull! Mac is dribbling too much and needs to learn to catch and shoot. He's rushing ill advised shots. Pressing himself trying to do a good job. Maybe trying to live up to his press clippings. He will relax and be successful. He needs to put up the good shots when they arrive and trust himself. His confidence will come back!! BTW Akinjo is best on the team at the job he's been given to do--running the team.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 17, 2018 10:03:56 GMT -5
The entire team, including staff, got its ass handed to it last night. The thing to watch is how the team, including staff, responds. I have a great deal of confidence in Patrick in this regard. I suspect we will see a much more intense Hoya team making fewer sloppy mistakes.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 17, 2018 10:27:30 GMT -5
The slippery floor reminded me of our battleship game against Florida that had to be called. I know it’s the same for both teams, but McClung and Akinjo thrive on quick change of direction. Also, hard to overcome a poor shooting and rebounding.
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Post by s4hoyas on Nov 17, 2018 10:40:27 GMT -5
Mac just needs to make the simple plays, and then the super ones will just evolve from there...he's been rushing his shot (most guys did this last night)...and he gets lost defensively when his man goes back door...good shots come from shooting in the FLOW of the offense, often out of 3-4 passes that leave the shooter open, not from just coming down and jacking it up...but we need sharper, quicker ball movement (not catch and hold/hesitate), especially against the zone...shooting is like sex, if you over think it, it probably won't work out too well, but if you square up, see it and believe it, the results will be much better (had to inject a little humor on this otherwise morose day after)...
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Post by justsaying on Nov 17, 2018 10:57:59 GMT -5
McClung had opportunities to pull up and shoot the three. The commentators even wondered aloud why he wasn't taking shots that he was in the best position to take. Well, here's the reason. The kid is so intimidated by Ewing that he is afraid to make a mistake. Mac's confidence is at an all time low. It's been shakened so badly, that Mac truly is afraid to take a jump shot. Anyone who can't see that is blind. Ewing has got to lighten up on Mac when he makes a mistake. Mac is so afraid to make a mistake he's passing up shots he should be taking... and taking without a damned care in the world. When he gets his confidence back, Georgetown's fortunes will be dramatically reversed, because, without a doubt, Mac is the best athlete on the team, and it's not even close. So, Ewing needs to lighten up and encourage Mac to shoot without second guessing himself. Right now, I'm going to bite my tongue and not let the "racism" word slip out, but what I'm beginning to see are two standards emerging with respect to player discipline. Akinjo makes a mistake... a bad pass, a bad shot, a bad call and guess what happens? NOTHING!!! Mac makes even the slightest mistake and Ewing yanks him out of the game. See what I mean? Mac is a much better natural athlete than Akinjo, and if Ewing lets him become his own man... like Jeff Green advises... Mac will lead this team to victory, time after time. Maybe there's no racism involved, but why is Akinjo given special dispensation when he makes a mistake and Mac is punitively benched? I see other more calm ones have already weighed in on this one. But i could not help but to share my first reaction which was "yikes!". I can understand this one being a true fan of Mac as I and we all are and i love what this young man brings but obviously this fan does not know much about coach Ew. If one would even think that coach is that way then i would think they do not know much about the history of coach. Coach has already made it plain to everyone around that M&A are his guys. A good coach knows that each player is different and is handled accordingly. Akinjo is the only true point guard on the whole team. That in itself would tell you why sometimes A stays longer. Coach knows what it takes to get to the next levels, that is where he is working to take "his" guys. Mac has got to shoot when he his wide open (make or miss) it makes the offense as a whole run better. Mac has missed his jumpers so far and players start to wonder what their peers are thinking so within themselves they start to back off. He has to take that step and keep pushing forward. I would bet anyone when coach take M out the game probably the first thing he tells him is that when you are that open you got to shoot it. I also see coach is working with him on his speed changes and just as important is his defense. Akinjo also stays because he is becoming one of our better defensive player on the whole team. Mac is and will get there, these are freshmen and a ways before BE season when the next level battles begins.
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