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Post by SSHoya on Dec 23, 2020 13:29:13 GMT -5
It's pretty hard to come to conclusions on a guy who's career has been 11 minutes. I would hope that once he gets a little more time that the game will slow down a little. Right now he's throwing up air balls and banking in free throws. He can't catch an entry pass and I fear what a shot would look like. That being said, he's going to get better. His upper body is still rail thin but he looks stronger in the legs. Also his legs are pogo sticks that eventually are going to result in double digit rebounds, lots of blocks and dunks. The idea of him playing a perimeter game this season is laughable ... but maybe some day he will develop a shot. My sense is that if he gets some more time, regularly, that we'll start to see good things under the basket on both ends of the floor. Even Manute Bol at 7'7" hit six 3s in a half so I'm optimistic in Malcolm's development! deadspin.com/the-time-manute-bol-hit-six-three-pointers-in-a-half-1666189871
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 23, 2020 14:23:44 GMT -5
What I mean by not following is that the defender will never have to play him, they just have to play the ball handler to stop the drive or contest the jumpers... I understand that your scenario can work but im not sure it'll effective consistently... 2 to 3 minutes a half and just one of a number of sets you can run depending on other 3 on the court. Also, I'll take a switch if his man wants to guard the dribbler coming off the screen. 6'11 against 6'2 to 6'5 can cause a number of rotation issues and offensive rebounding opportunities that we could use Teams will almost never switch on that play, the player covering the ball handler will more than likely fight over the screen to stay with his man... Bottom line to me is the Wilson playing the 4 with his current skill-set won’t be very productive offensively...
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Post by HOYAPLAYA on Dec 23, 2020 14:41:48 GMT -5
2 to 3 minutes a half and just one of a number of sets you can run depending on other 3 on the court. Also, I'll take a switch if his man wants to guard the dribbler coming off the screen. 6'11 against 6'2 to 6'5 can cause a number of rotation issues and offensive rebounding opportunities that we could use Teams will almost never switch on that play, the player covering the ball handler will more than likely fight over the screen to stay with his man... Bottom line to me is the Wilson playing the 4 with his current skill-set won’t be very productive offensively... I'd rather go I've it a try than watch inefficient offensive possessions withBile at the 4 while getting nothing on the defensive end.
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 23, 2020 16:07:17 GMT -5
Teams will almost never switch on that play, the player covering the ball handler will more than likely fight over the screen to stay with his man... Bottom line to me is the Wilson playing the 4 with his current skill-set won’t be very productive offensively... I'd rather go I've it a try than watch inefficient offensive possessions withBile at the 4 while getting nothing on the defensive end. Can't argue with you there...
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 23, 2020 16:15:04 GMT -5
Teams will almost never switch on that play, the player covering the ball handler will more than likely fight over the screen to stay with his man... Bottom line to me is the Wilson playing the 4 with his current skill-set won’t be very productive offensively... I'd rather go I've it a try than watch inefficient offensive possessions withBile at the 4 while getting nothing on the defensive end. Bile's established himself as everyone's fan not-favorite
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 8, 2021 17:38:58 GMT -5
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Post by dchoya72 on Jun 8, 2021 20:42:58 GMT -5
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Post by seaweed on Jun 15, 2021 17:41:28 GMT -5
Prop bet du jour - Malcolm gets more minutes than Tim next year. Stakes are dinner at Cafe 31 before BET opener. Any takers? Don’t ask why, I am just saying.
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 15, 2021 18:44:36 GMT -5
Prop bet du jour - Malcolm gets more minutes than Tim next year. Stakes are dinner at Cafe 31 before BET opener. Any takers? Don’t ask why, I am just saying. Cafe 31 closed in 2019. 😥
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Post by kbones17 on Jun 15, 2021 19:20:05 GMT -5
Prop bet du jour - Malcolm gets more minutes than Tim next year. Stakes are dinner at Cafe 31 before BET opener. Any takers? Don’t ask why, I am just saying. Honestly, there’s a chance. If Malcom can improve his free throw shooting I don’t see any reason why he can’t play some solid minutes over Tim.
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Post by seaweed on Jun 15, 2021 21:21:57 GMT -5
Prop bet du jour - Malcolm gets more minutes than Tim next year. Stakes are dinner at Cafe 31 before BET opener. Any takers? Don’t ask why, I am just saying. Cafe 31 closed in 2019. 😥 Shhhhh.... they don’t need to know that. OK, some other local dive, there are plenty around Le Jardin
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Post by dchoya72 on Jun 16, 2021 2:32:36 GMT -5
Malcolm must dance with the ball.
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Post by HamptonHoya on Dec 17, 2021 5:34:50 GMT -5
I recall people on the board saying that Malcolm moves very well. I hadn't pad much attention until the Howard game. There was a fast break and the camera angle showed several players running back, he beat most of them. He is pretty graceful for a seven footer. I know this post probably doesn't read well, but I hope you get the idea.
I am glad Malcolm didn't give up on Georgetown. For someone who did not get a great deal of playing time for two years, it would have been easy for him to get frustrated and leave the program. He continued to improve and wait for his number to get called. That's the way it used to be. Now there are so many kids that read the stars behind their names and figure they should be getting 20+ minutes a game from the jump.
I am also glad we have had several guys get some extended run to not only help with the players confidence, but also the coaching staff's confidence in them. They earned scholarships for a reason. I know I am all over the place with this post. I am going to use my "it's early and I can't think clearly card".
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 17, 2021 6:59:59 GMT -5
I recall people on the board saying that Malcolm moves very well. I hadn't pad much attention until the Howard game. There was a fast break and the camera angle showed several players running back, he beat most of them. He is pretty graceful for a seven footer. I know this post probably doesn't read well, but I hope you get the idea. I am glad Malcolm didn't give up on Georgetown. For someone who did not get a great deal of playing time for two years, it would have been easy for him to get frustrated and leave the program. He continued to improve and wait for his number to get called. That's the way it used to be. Now there are so many kids that read the stars behind their names and figure they should be getting 20+ minutes a game from the jump. I am also glad we have had several guys get some extended run to not only help with the players confidence, but also the coaching staff's confidence in them. They earned scholarships for a reason. I know I am all over the place with this post. I am going to use my "it's early and I can't think clearly card". I think I read that Malcolm is also enjoying student activities and his Georgetown education and experience. I always root for a player who is engaged in more than just basketball.
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Dec 17, 2021 7:05:55 GMT -5
He just needs to learn how to catch and finish off the fastbreaks. He's becoming a real presence on the defensive side of the court and that's where I projected him.
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 17, 2021 8:22:16 GMT -5
He just needs to learn how to catch and finish off the fastbreaks. He's becoming a real presence on the defensive side of the court and that's where I projected him. Guy went like three for three in catching and finishing in this game. Progress.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 8:50:38 GMT -5
He's getting there.
Positioning, strength/aggression, team defense, rebounding, and offense at the rim - all improving in front of our eyes.
He'll probably never have a reliable 10-12 footer, so his offense is always going to be limited in that regard.
But maybe he can build enough comfort with the ball to take a power dribble or two when necessary... to set himself up for that little hook he seems to be developing.
Defense looked great the other night - hope that continues against bigger & better competition.
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 17, 2021 9:00:00 GMT -5
I recall people on the board saying that Malcolm moves very well. I hadn't pad much attention until the Howard game. There was a fast break and the camera angle showed several players running back, he beat most of them. He is pretty graceful for a seven footer. I know this post probably doesn't read well, but I hope you get the idea. I am glad Malcolm didn't give up on Georgetown. For someone who did not get a great deal of playing time for two years, it would have been easy for him to get frustrated and leave the program. He continued to improve and wait for his number to get called. That's the way it used to be. Now there are so many kids that read the stars behind their names and figure they should be getting 20+ minutes a game from the jump. I am also glad we have had several guys get some extended run to not only help with the players confidence, but also the coaching staff's confidence in them. They earned scholarships for a reason. I know I am all over the place with this post. I am going to use my "it's early and I can't think clearly card". So glad you posted this. It is telling that while people rightfully talked up Tyler after this game they were far, far more muted about Malcolm. I swear to God I found more praise for Holloway after the Howard victory. I'm not certain the Hoyas win the game without Malcolm's contributions. He went six for six from the field which included catching three strong passes and throwing them down for points. He is listed as having four blocks but his length caused the Howard players to give up other basketball opportunities by thinking the better of it when they drove into the paint. As the announces said he looked gassed at times because he hasn't gotten so much playing time but the kid still played hard and contributed on the boards and ran the floor as good as anyone. I'm suspecting a lot of the non-existent chatter about Malcolm though is the result of so many of the most vocal Hoya fans (either on message boards or on social media) not having much interest in him or his development. He has been an afterthought not just coming into this season, but even coming into tis game. I don't really get that. The one thing missing from Malcolm is muscle and strength. If he had the build for that he would be really something, but his lack of mass on that skinny frame allows him to get pushed around a bit. Nonetheless he does have value. He's really tall, really long, really quick for his height, really athletic and from all indications off-court really smart too. Considering his being selected a national student representative his soph season one would think Hoya fans would be proud of this guy being on their team but I can recall before Qudus walking out on us, some folks were hoping he (or Tim) would transfer in order to open up more scholarship space and because there was this conviction that he added little value to the team. But character is a value and a guy like that who got almost zero time his first two seasons and yet did not complain but stuck around (while doing great in class) and finally getting an opportunity to get major minutes is a type of value that can do wonders for younger players' growth and perspectives. No, I don't think he has proven he is ready to be a fulltime starter in the Big East (and with Tim coming back and Ryan's growth he won't have to) but I think it can be beneficial for him to be getting all these minutes now because it makes him better imo and it allows him to be a more effective option down the road in case of foul troubles or (hopefully not) other injuries or illnesses. It is nice to know he is there to fill in for a pinch if necessary. Still it is my opinion that some people are so obsessed with Ewing playing small ball (especially guys on a particular Hoya podcast) that they are irritated by Wilson starting and getting big minutes in these games that Tim is still on the bench. They want Ewing to go small almost all the time and having Malcolm on the floor is detrimental to their visions of the Hoyas spreading out the offense with a five-out game. I don't care if Malcolm isn't a stretch five who can face up and shoot from the perimeter. I'm not concerned so much about what players can't do, I tried to consider more what they actually bring to the table. There was at least one play against Howard in which he had to come off a switch and defend a six foot guard on the perimeter and ended up causing the guard to give up the ball. Hoya fans are obsessed in pointing out any and every play in which our bigs get burned on the perimeter guarding smaller people but they are curiously silent when our bigs such as Malcolm and Tim display their capabilities of moving their feet extremely well. Why? It hurts their narrative and agendas regarding the valuelessness of having such bigs on your roster in the first place. By the way Malcolm's comments regarding his mother in the post game interviews had me rolling. He said that his mother told him something along the lines that God cleared people out the way to give him this opportunity to start. LOL. That's definitely an Old Testament version of the almighty we're talking about there. I'm not trying to be dismissive of Malcolm and his mom, I'm certain in a purely innocent and harmless way they believe that. Its just another way of pointing out how life will at times unexpectedly open up opportunities for you. Still, maybe it explains not just Tim's injuries but Qudus' exodus (yes, pun intended) from the team.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Dec 17, 2021 9:17:41 GMT -5
I recall people on the board saying that Malcolm moves very well. I hadn't pad much attention until the Howard game. There was a fast break and the camera angle showed several players running back, he beat most of them. He is pretty graceful for a seven footer. I know this post probably doesn't read well, but I hope you get the idea. I am glad Malcolm didn't give up on Georgetown. For someone who did not get a great deal of playing time for two years, it would have been easy for him to get frustrated and leave the program. He continued to improve and wait for his number to get called. That's the way it used to be. Now there are so many kids that read the stars behind their names and figure they should be getting 20+ minutes a game from the jump. I am also glad we have had several guys get some extended run to not only help with the players confidence, but also the coaching staff's confidence in them. They earned scholarships for a reason. I know I am all over the place with this post. I am going to use my "it's early and I can't think clearly card". So glad you posted this. It is telling that while people rightfully talked up Tyler after this game they were far, far more muted about Malcolm. I swear to God I found more praise for Holloway after the Howard victory. I'm not certain the Hoyas win the game without Malcolm's contributions. He went six for six from the field which included catching three strong passes and throwing them down for points. He is listed as having four blocks but his length caused the Howard players to give up other basketball opportunities by thinking the better of it when they drove into the paint. As the announces said he looked gassed at times because he hasn't gotten so much playing time but the kid still played hard and contributed on the boards and ran the floor as good as anyone. I'm suspecting a lot of the non-existent chatter about Malcolm though is the result of so many of the most vocal Hoya fans (either on message boards or on social media) not having much interest in him or his development. He has been an afterthought not just coming into this season, but even coming into tis game. I don't really get that. The one thing missing from Malcolm is muscle and strength. If he had the build for that he would be really something, but his lack of mass on that skinny frame allows him to get pushed around a bit. Nonetheless he does have value. He's really tall, really long, really quick for his height, really athletic and from all indications off-court really smart too. Considering his being selected a national student representative his soph season one would think Hoya fans would be proud of this guy being on their team but I can recall before Qudus walking out on us, some folks were hoping he (or Tim) would transfer in order to open up more scholarship space and because there was this conviction that he added little value to the team. But character is a value and a guy like that who got almost zero time his first two seasons and yet did not complain but stuck around (while doing great in class) and finally getting an opportunity to get major minutes is a type of value that can do wonders for younger players' growth and perspectives. No, I don't think he has proven he is ready to be a fulltime starter in the Big East (and with Tim coming back and Ryan's growth he won't have to) but I think it can be beneficial for him to be getting all these minutes now because it makes him better imo and it allows him to be a more effective option down the road in case of foul troubles or (hopefully not) other injuries or illnesses. It is nice to know he is there to fill in for a pinch if necessary. Still it is my opinion that some people are so obsessed with Ewing playing small ball (especially guys on a particular Hoya podcast) that they are irritated by Wilson starting and getting big minutes in these games that Tim is still on the bench. They want Ewing to go small almost all the time and having Malcolm on the floor is detrimental to their visions of the Hoyas spreading out the offense with a five-out game. I don't care if Malcolm isn't a stretch five who can face up and shoot from the perimeter. I'm not concerned so much about what players can't do, I tried to consider more what they actually bring to the table. There was at least one play against Howard in which he had to come off a switch and defend a six foot guard on the perimeter and ended up causing the guard to give up the ball. Hoya fans are obsessed in pointing out any and every play in which our bigs get burned on the perimeter guarding smaller people but they are curiously silent when our bigs such as Malcolm and Tim display their capabilities of moving their feet extremely well. Why? It hurts their narrative and agendas regarding the valuelessness of having such bigs on your roster in the first place. By the way Malcolm's comments regarding his mother in the post game interviews had me rolling. He said that his mother told him something along the lines that God cleared people out the way to give him this opportunity to start. LOL. That's definitely an Old Testament version of the almighty we're talking about there. I'm not trying to be dismissive of Malcolm and his mom, I'm certain in a purely innocent and harmless way they believe that. Its just another way of pointing out how life will at times unexpectedly open up opportunities for you. Still, maybe it explains not just Tim's injuries but Qudus' exodus (yes, pun intended) from the team. Here, here MCI!!!! Completely agree. You can't have 13 people play. You typically can't even have 9 so you need guys who are high character kids that plan on developing over FOUR years, not one or two. Love what Malcolm has brought so far and look forward to what he can contribute in the future. He, along with kids like Colin, who were not highly recruited can be part of the foundation that we build off of. We need to get old. Ewing hasn't had the luxury of getting old with a group and hopefully we are doing that now.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Dec 17, 2021 9:22:32 GMT -5
And, with the redshirt and the covid year, I think this is his freshman season from an eligibility perspective. If he wants to use all of those years at GU, rather than as a grad transfer, he could help a lot on the "getting old" front.
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