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Post by SSHoya on Sept 25, 2018 17:27:24 GMT -5
Edited Senate Republicans are afraid to question the accusers. Hiring an unidentified female attorney supposedly experienced in sex crimes prosecutions to give them cover -- essentially, hiding behind her skirts. Cowards. And the vote scheduled for Friday morning -- not exactly the greatest deliberative body in the world, is it?
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Post by njhoya78 on Sept 25, 2018 18:44:14 GMT -5
Edited Senate Republicans are afraid to question the accusers. Hiring an unidentified female attorney supposedly experienced in sex crimes prosecutions to give them cover -- essentially, hiding behind her skirts. Cowards. And the vote scheduled for Friday morning -- not exactly the greatest deliberative body in the world, is it? Will this be enough "cover" for Murkowski and Collins? Probably.
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 26, 2018 4:35:45 GMT -5
If Kavanaugh were honest about his drinking and not attempt to portray himself as the virgin church-going Boy Scout engaged in community service, perhaps people wouldn't be so skeptical of him. His drinking in HS and college is not disqualifying -- but lying about it is. (The most clueless ironic comment from Trump was his statement that the Dems are engaged in a "con game" -- but I'd guess he'd know since he is the expert). On Monday night, Supreme Court nominee Brett M. Kavanaugh said in a nationally televised interview that in his younger years, he was focused on sports, academics and “service projects.” But it was his comments about drinking that rankled some Yale University classmates, prompting them to speak out for the first time. “Brett was a sloppy drunk, and I know because I drank with him. I watched him drink more than a lot of people. He’d end up slurring his words, stumbling,” said Swisher, a Democrat and chief of the gynecologic oncology division at the University of Washington School of Medicine. “There’s no medical way I can say that he was blacked out. . . . But it’s not credible for him to say that he has had no memory lapses in the nights that he drank to excess.” “He’s trying to paint himself as some kind of choir boy,” said Brookes, a Republican and former pharmaceutical executive who recalled an encounter with a drunken Kavanaugh at a fraternity event. “You can’t lie your way onto the Supreme Court, and with that statement out, he’s gone too far. It’s about the integrity of that institution.” www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2018/09/25/ea5e50d4-c0eb-11e8-9005-5104e9616c21_story.html?utm_term=.a3f6d7f921f9
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 26, 2018 4:46:51 GMT -5
Edited Senate Republicans are afraid to question the accusers. Hiring an unidentified female attorney supposedly experienced in sex crimes prosecutions to give them cover -- essentially, hiding behind her skirts. Cowards. And the vote scheduled for Friday morning -- not exactly the greatest deliberative body in the world, is it? Will this be enough "cover" for Murkowski and Collins? Probably. More Edited from 85-year old Grassley. If the idea is to get to the truth, Grassley would have asked Trump to have the FBI reopen the background investigation of Kavanaugh based upon this newly-discovered adverse information. This is the "con job" courtesy of cowardly Republican Senators on the Judiciary Committee. They can't do their jobs. (McConnell unwittingly revealed the GOP mindset by referring to Mitchell as a "female assistant" not as an "experienced prosecutor and attorney" thus marginalizing her role even as the GOP appoints her. Fools.) “The majority members have followed the bipartisan recommendation to hire as staff counsel for the committee an experienced career sex-crimes prosecutor to question the witnesses at Thursday’s hearing,” Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) said in a statement. “The goal is to de-politicize the process and get to the truth, instead of grandstanding and giving senators an opportunity to launch their presidential campaigns.” www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/arizona-prosecutor-rachel-mitchell-emerges-as-gop-choice-to-question-kavanaugh-and-accuser-at-hearing/2018/09/25/47964afa-c0ff-11e8-9005-5104e9616c21_story.html?utm_term=.008db7104484
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 9:33:00 GMT -5
If Kavanaugh were honest about his drinking and not attempt to portray himself as the virgin church-going Boy Scout engaged in community service, perhaps people wouldn't be so skeptical of him. His drinking in HS and college is not disqualifying -- but lying about it is. (The most clueless ironic comment from Trump was his statement that the Dems are engaged in a "con game" -- but I'd guess he'd know since he is the expert). On Monday night, Supreme Court nominee Brett M. Kavanaugh said in a nationally televised interview that in his younger years, he was focused on sports, academics and “service projects.” But it was his comments about drinking that rankled some Yale University classmates, prompting them to speak out for the first time. “Brett was a sloppy drunk, and I know because I drank with him. I watched him drink more than a lot of people. He’d end up slurring his words, stumbling,” said Swisher, a Democrat and chief of the gynecologic oncology division at the University of Washington School of Medicine. “There’s no medical way I can say that he was blacked out. . . . But it’s not credible for him to say that he has had no memory lapses in the nights that he drank to excess.” “He’s trying to paint himself as some kind of choir boy,” said Brookes, a Republican and former pharmaceutical executive who recalled an encounter with a drunken Kavanaugh at a fraternity event. “You can’t lie your way onto the Supreme Court, and with that statement out, he’s gone too far. It’s about the integrity of that institution.” www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2018/09/25/ea5e50d4-c0eb-11e8-9005-5104e9616c21_story.html?utm_term=.a3f6d7f921f9This guy has told a fair number of half truths and lies during this process. I guess Republicans think that's a good quality to have for a Supreme Court Justice. It's not hard to say, look I drank a lot in college and did some things I wasn't proud of. He would sail through nomination but he can't do it. Maybe he has to lie because the alternative is admitting that he's had countless blackouts and therefore has no idea whether he's assaulted anyone. IDK but his is beyond odd at this point, and speaks to his character overall..
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Post by TC on Sept 26, 2018 9:50:27 GMT -5
Well, that escalated quickly
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 26, 2018 10:30:17 GMT -5
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Post by tashoya on Sept 26, 2018 11:00:08 GMT -5
There is not one good reason for not having a full investigation. Even if the allegations are entirely false (REALLY difficult to believe at this point), the way the GOP is choosing to deal with them is very similar to how rapists and accessories to rape deal with rape: nothing to see here; victim blaming. It's beyond disgusting. They need to go.
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 26, 2018 11:20:32 GMT -5
There is not one good reason for not having a full investigation. Even if the allegations are entirely false (REALLY difficult to believe at this point), the way the GOP is choosing to deal with them is very similar to how rapists and accessories to rape deal with rape: nothing to see here; victim blaming. It's beyond disgusting. They need to go. If the allegations were entirely false, wouldn't one think that Kavanaugh would be the first one calling for a full FBI investigation to exonerate him?? Why is Mark Judge hiding out in Bethany Beach and the GOP won't call him as a witness?? Now Kavanaugh is apparently admitting in his prepared testimony for tomorrow that "sometimes I had too many [beers]" while still denying the assaults. Too little, too late to come clean. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/kavanaugh-nomination-trump-calls-nominee-an-absolute-gem-as-tensions-swirl-over-planned-hearing/2018/09/26/df224aea-c190-11e8-97a5-ab1e46bb3bc7_story.html?utm_term=.5cc574b2676c(I graduated from a public high school in Montgomery County, MD in 1973. Swetnick says she graduated from Gaithersburg HS perhaps a decade later. In my personal observation at least in the 1970s, it would be a bit unusual but not out of the question that Swetnick would be running in the same social circles as Kavanaugh and his friends from the private prep school crowd. Gaithersburg in those days was still fairly rural).
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Post by njhoya78 on Sept 26, 2018 13:36:06 GMT -5
There's only so much head shaking that I can do, now, without reaching concussive symptoms. I have posted before that I was a liberal Republican ("the Lowell Weicker wing" of the party), but stopped identifying as a GOP supporter after the 2016 elections; with a nod to Ronald Reagan, I didn't leave the Republican party, the Republican party left me.
If the allegations are false, why isn't Kavanaugh suing anyone for slander? Even as a public figure, he could prove actual malice. . .if these statements are false.
And to think that we were concerned that the documents requested in advance of the confirmation hearings were problematic. How naive we were, in retrospect.
It's become clear that the GOP wants to ram this through (yes, I went there intentionally). We, men and women alike, have to act accordingly in six weeks.
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 26, 2018 14:20:09 GMT -5
One thing that is also clear -- Lindsey Graham is angling to be next SECDEF or AG the way he's been kissing up and having gone full Trumpean. I surmise his conscience died when McCain did.
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Sept 26, 2018 16:51:44 GMT -5
Zero question in my mind that the GOP is trying to ram this through and that the DEMS are clearly stalling. I hate both parties. I still and will always vote.
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 26, 2018 17:56:20 GMT -5
Avenatti says his client is contemplating filing criminal charges against Kavanaugh and Judge. I wonder why this hasn't happened yet.
NBC News reporting another (4th) complaint against Kavanaugh about him slamming a woman against a wall outside a bar in 1998. This time it is anonymous. Kavanaugh has denied it but it was reported to the Senate Judiciary Committee which is "investigating."
And a 5th anonymous allegation. The hits just keep on coming.
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Post by tashoya on Sept 26, 2018 19:28:03 GMT -5
Avenatti says his client is contemplating filing criminal charges against Kavanaugh and Judge. I wonder why this hasn't happened yet. NBC News reporting another (4th) complaint against Kavanaugh about him slamming a woman against a wall outside a bar in 1998. This time it is anonymous. Kavanaugh has denied it but it was reported to the Senate Judiciary Committee which is "investigating." And a 5th anonymous allegation. The hits just keep on coming. HURRY UP AND VOTE (said no one with an ounce of morality or sense of duty)!!!
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Post by hoyarooter on Sept 26, 2018 19:31:28 GMT -5
If Kavanaugh were honest about his drinking and not attempt to portray himself as the virgin church-going Boy Scout engaged in community service, perhaps people wouldn't be so skeptical of him. His drinking in HS and college is not disqualifying -- but lying about it is. (The most clueless ironic comment from Trump was his statement that the Dems are engaged in a "con game" -- but I'd guess he'd know since he is the expert). On Monday night, Supreme Court nominee Brett M. Kavanaugh said in a nationally televised interview that in his younger years, he was focused on sports, academics and “service projects.” But it was his comments about drinking that rankled some Yale University classmates, prompting them to speak out for the first time. “Brett was a sloppy drunk, and I know because I drank with him. I watched him drink more than a lot of people. He’d end up slurring his words, stumbling,” said Swisher, a Democrat and chief of the gynecologic oncology division at the University of Washington School of Medicine. “There’s no medical way I can say that he was blacked out. . . . But it’s not credible for him to say that he has had no memory lapses in the nights that he drank to excess.” “He’s trying to paint himself as some kind of choir boy,” said Brookes, a Republican and former pharmaceutical executive who recalled an encounter with a drunken Kavanaugh at a fraternity event. “You can’t lie your way onto the Supreme Court, and with that statement out, he’s gone too far. It’s about the integrity of that institution.” www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2018/09/25/ea5e50d4-c0eb-11e8-9005-5104e9616c21_story.html?utm_term=.a3f6d7f921f9This pretty much mirrors what I told my wife last night. If Kavanaugh had said look, I was wild in my younger days and did some things that I regret, but I've grown out of it. If you feel that my activities as a teenager disqualify me for the Supreme Court, then have at it, I think the furor would have died down. It's his apparent dishonesty that is most concerning. At least that's what I said last night. But Ms. Swetnick's allegations of multiple gang rapes takes this to a whole new level.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 20:05:21 GMT -5
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 26, 2018 20:44:31 GMT -5
After that press conference, I think we have reached another new low.
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Post by hoyatables on Sept 26, 2018 20:59:43 GMT -5
One thing that is also clear -- Lindsey Graham is angling to be next SECDEF or AG the way he's been kissing up and having gone full Trumpean. I surmise his conscience died when McCain did. I choose to live in denial and believe that Graham is pulling a Long Con.
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 27, 2018 6:09:17 GMT -5
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Post by CTHoya08 on Sept 27, 2018 6:48:49 GMT -5
One thing that is also clear -- Lindsey Graham is angling to be next SECDEF or AG the way he's been kissing up and having gone full Trumpean. I surmise his conscience died when McCain did. I choose to live in denial and believe that Graham is pulling a Long Con. We know from the Woodward book that he's not interested in being Ambassador to Pakistan.
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