Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Sept 17, 2018 12:06:02 GMT -5
Quick question for those suspicious of a Democratic conspiracy. . .if there was a conspiracy to defeat a Trump Supreme Court nominee, why wasn't any such action undertaken against Neil Gorsuch when he was nominated? The confirmation process took much longer. Seems maybe there was no "dirt" on Justice Gorsuch to hold up the proceedings. This may be different. Perhaps there should be no rush to judgment, and the confirmation process should be delayed to allow an investigation to be undertaken. What's the hurry (aside from the obvious implication)? Dems are honing their craft?
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madgesiq92
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Post by madgesiq92 on Sept 17, 2018 12:12:39 GMT -5
I was on the fence on this nomination, until Bob Menendez, the 21st Century "Conscience of the Senate," weighed in this morning.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 12:15:09 GMT -5
I was on the fence on this nomination, until Bob Menendez, the 21st Century "Conscience of the Senate," weighed in this morning. Trump, the 21st Century "Conscience of the Presidency, nominating him and issuing statements of support had no effect, I guess....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 12:18:35 GMT -5
Quick question for those suspicious of a Democratic conspiracy. . .if there was a conspiracy to defeat a Trump Supreme Court nominee, why wasn't any such action undertaken against Neil Gorsuch when he was nominated? The confirmation process took much longer. Seems maybe there was no "dirt" on Justice Gorsuch to hold up the proceedings. This may be different. Perhaps there should be no rush to judgment, and the confirmation process should be delayed to allow an investigation to be undertaken. What's the hurry (aside from the obvious implication)? Dems are honing their craft? She's telling the truth?
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Sept 17, 2018 12:24:41 GMT -5
Could be either. She’s had 35 years to work on the story.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 12:49:20 GMT -5
Could be either. She’s had 35 years to work on the story. Odd how a lawyer like yourself would dismiss that part so easily, but what seems more plausible based on current reporting? How does her telling this story to her Therapist in 2012 square with your conspiracy theory?
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 17, 2018 14:05:50 GMT -5
Between this and his many comments about Hillary Clinton, Elvado is leaving no doubt about the way he really feels about women. It's ugly.
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Sept 17, 2018 14:35:44 GMT -5
Between this and his many comments about Hillary Clinton, Elvado is leaving no doubt about the way he really feels about women. It's ugly. No actually, it’s just Democrats. But feel free to paint with the broader brush if it makes you happy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 15:37:14 GMT -5
Conspiracy Theory Alert! Kavanaugh's attorney is Beth Wilkinson, wife of FAKE NEWS LIBERAL MEDIA guy David Gregory.
Deep State is working overtime here.
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Post by Elvado on Sept 17, 2018 18:47:15 GMT -5
Conspiracy Theory Alert! Kavanaugh's attorney is Beth Wilkinson, wife of FAKE NEWS LIBERAL MEDIA guy David Gregory. Deep State is working overtime here. So there will be hearings on a 35 year old allegation. Is everybody happy now?
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Post by tashoya on Sept 17, 2018 19:24:48 GMT -5
Conspiracy Theory Alert! Kavanaugh's attorney is Beth Wilkinson, wife of FAKE NEWS LIBERAL MEDIA guy David Gregory. Deep State is working overtime here. So there will be hearings on a 35 year old allegation. Is everybody happy now? Yes. Especially considering Kavanaugh could be on the bench for the next 35.
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Post by Elvado on Sept 17, 2018 19:47:01 GMT -5
Well then all is good.
Was nice to hear Ms Katz come out of the gate with “my client has noobligation to corroborate her charges”...
So I guess it is now up to Judge Kavanaugh to prove a negative...
Sounds fair...
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Post by tashoya on Sept 17, 2018 19:57:34 GMT -5
Which part of this process HAS been fair?
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Post by Elvado on Sept 17, 2018 20:27:23 GMT -5
Which part of this process HAS been fair? You raise a good question. So assuming she comes to the Senate and testifies he did this and he testifies he did not. In the absence of any independent corroboration, what should happen?
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Post by tashoya on Sept 17, 2018 20:32:57 GMT -5
Which part of this process HAS been fair? You raise a good question. So assuming she comes to the Senate and testifies he did this and he testifies he did not. In the absence of any independent corroboration, what should happen? Though it won't happen, at a minimum I would hope that it would spur the release of some/most of the documents deemed "classified" for Senate eyes only to give a fuller picture of the man since his character has been called into question.
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Post by tashoya on Sept 17, 2018 20:36:28 GMT -5
The whole thing is a cluster. I expect this will continue to be the case as it's become a political game as opposed to a legitimate search for the most capable, qualified jurists. The farce of it is that the GOP really doesn't give a crap about his character. They, likely, care very little if these accusations are true. They only care how he'll vote. And the other side, likely, isn't all that much better. It's depressing and wrong.
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Post by Elvado on Sept 18, 2018 4:37:50 GMT -5
The whole thing is a cluster. I expect this will continue to be the case as it's become a political game as opposed to a legitimate search for the most capable, qualified jurists. The farce of it is that the GOP really doesn't give a crap about his character. They, likely, care very little if these accusations are true. They only care how he'll vote. And the other side, likely, isn't all that much better. It's depressing and wrong. You are 100% correct with the exception that the other side isn’t any better. While Trump had no intention of actually doing it, draining the swamp would be a real good start for this country. The entrenched people of power in DC, with limited exceptions, suck out loud.
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 18, 2018 5:24:36 GMT -5
The only entity draining the swamp is Mueller and the special counsel investigation -- yet the corrupt malignant narcissist and his enabling feckless spineless GOP is doing its best to undermine its work. The President and the GOP are the biggest threat to the national security of the United States. This is Trump's partner in crime -- remember Trump yukking it up with Kislyak and Lavrov in the Oval Office after firing Comey, with TASS present but not the American media? Traitorous and treasonous and you Republicans are happy with it. The “Secure Borders” Facebook group was not the product of outraged Twin Falls residents. It was created by Russian operatives as part of Russia’s ongoing campaign to weaken our institutions of American democracy—in this case, by sowing discord and painting the justice system as an agent of politicians. www.lawfareblog.com/how-putin-works-weaken-faith-rule-law-and-our-justice-system
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 7:26:46 GMT -5
The guy who tells Democrats "Suck it up, the judicial confirmation process is a bloodsport" is complaining that Democrats are treating the judicial confirmation process as a bloodsport.
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Post by Elvado on Sept 18, 2018 7:55:42 GMT -5
The guy who tells Democrats "Suck it up, the judicial confirmation process is a bloodsport" is complaining that Democrats are treating the judicial confirmation process as a bloodsport. A blood sport the Democrats created when they blocked Bork on purely ideological grounds. Professor Ford deserves to be heard. I take her at her word that she never wanted to come forward. Real lucky break that she had that convenient polygraph though.
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