A New Low

[SSHoya]

Charles (Chad) Ludington. On drinking with Kavanaugh. Is the FBI going to be allowed to investigate whether he perjured himself regarding his drinking at Yale? Or is the GOP next line of defense going to be it's not material?

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Ex-FBI official reveals White House limits on Kavanaugh probe


Ford’s attorney has said she has not been contacted by the FBI, and Figliuzzi said the Kavanaugh accuser shouldn’t expect to hear from investigators.

“In fact, we’re hearing from sources it’s the opposite,” he said. “That her statement is always — is already on record, we don’t need to hear from her again. That’s a terrible mistake to be made, and I want the public to understand.”

Scarborough agreed the White House should be more transparent about its executive oversight of the investigation, but he asked Figliuzzi whether he knew more about the investigation than what had already been reported.

“I am sitting here this morning telling you they are severely limited, and I know they are,” Figliuzzi said. “I know there’s frustration, and I know that the bureau is going to have to come back for every request that they want to add to a very, very short list. The FBI has been handcuffed, and the clock is ticking on this artificial one-week deadline.”

Scarborough asked him point-blank whether he had inside sources confirming the White House had essentially blocked a full investigation.

“Yes,” Figliuzzi said.

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Oct 1, 2018 7:07:30 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

So it's over, right?

I bet they even get Manchin's vote in the end.

Can you imagine the minefield an FBI agent who puts anything controversial in the report will step into? They railroaded Strzok, Page, and McCabe and they tossed Comey and used the fact that he went along with their Huma Abedin October surprise scheme that put Trump into the White House as the rationale.

What does anyone bet that the same corrupt FBI agents in the NY office that were leaking stuff to Giuliani and forced Comey to write that letter are in charge of this?

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WASHINGTON — In the days leading up to a public allegation that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh exposed himself to a college classmate, the judge and his team were communicating behind the scenes with friends to refute the claim, according to text messages obtained by NBC News.

Kerry Berchem, who was at Yale with both Kavanaugh and his accuser, Deborah Ramirez, has attempted to get those messages to the FBI for its newly reopened investigation into the matter but says she has yet to be contacted by the bureau.

The texts between Berchem and Karen Yarasavage, both friends of Kavanaugh, suggest that the nominee was personally talking with former classmates about Ramirez’s story in advance of the New Yorker article that made her allegation public. In one message, Yarasavage said Kavanaugh asked her to go on the record in his defense. Two other messages show communication between Kavanaugh's team and former classmates in advance of the story.

The texts also demonstrate that Kavanaugh and Ramirez were more socially connected than previously understood and that Ramirez was uncomfortable around Kavanaugh when they saw each other at a wedding 10 years after they graduated. Berchem's efforts also show that some potential witnesses have been unable to get important information through to the FBI.

www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/mutual-friend-ramirez-kavanaugh-anxious-come-forward-evidence-n915566

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Oct 1, 2018 7:39:12 GMT -5 SSHoya said:

Charles (Chad) Ludington. On drinking with Kavanaugh. Is the FBI going to be allowed to investigate whether he perjured himself regarding his drinking at Yale? Or is the GOP next line of defense going to be it's not material?

And there's a police report...

[hoya9797]

Oct 1, 2018 17:03:24 GMT -5 SSHoya said:

WASHINGTON — In the days leading up to a public allegation that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh exposed himself to a college classmate, the judge and his team were communicating behind the scenes with friends to refute the claim, according to text messages obtained by NBC News.

Kerry Berchem, who was at Yale with both Kavanaugh and his accuser, Deborah Ramirez, has attempted to get those messages to the FBI for its newly reopened investigation into the matter but says she has yet to be contacted by the bureau.

The texts between Berchem and Karen Yarasavage, both friends of Kavanaugh, suggest that the nominee was personally talking with former classmates about Ramirez’s story in advance of the New Yorker article that made her allegation public. In one message, Yarasavage said Kavanaugh asked her to go on the record in his defense. Two other messages show communication between Kavanaugh's team and former classmates in advance of the story.

The texts also demonstrate that Kavanaugh and Ramirez were more socially connected than previously understood and that Ramirez was uncomfortable around Kavanaugh when they saw each other at a wedding 10 years after they graduated. Berchem's efforts also show that some potential witnesses have been unable to get important information through to the FBI.

www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/mutual-friend-ramirez-kavanaugh-anxious-come-forward-evidence-n915566

This also contradicts his claim that he didn’t hear about this one til the New Yorker article was published.

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Sept 29, 2018 20:43:08 GMT -5 tashoya said:

On a side note, I want to say thank you to Ed for continuing to offer his thoughts. I wish more people that share some of his opinions would. I know these are adversarial discussions but I think it's important to get the perspective of those that think differently. Ed signs on knowing he's going to get blasted but I'm very appreciative that he continues to offer his thoughts despite knowing how it's going to go.

I seem to have read somewhere that, if you light a candle, you don't put it under a bushel basket. I think others who think like me have smoldering baskets.

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Smh...

Word.

[hoya9797]

A very detailed analysis of the testimony and how we can tell Kavanaugh is lying.

www.currentaffairs.org/2018/09/how-we-know-kavanaugh-is-lying

[SSHoya]

Oct 1, 2018 18:48:32 GMT -5 hoya9797 said:

Oct 1, 2018 17:03:24 GMT -5 SSHoya said:

WASHINGTON — In the days leading up to a public allegation that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh exposed himself to a college classmate, the judge and his team were communicating behind the scenes with friends to refute the claim, according to text messages obtained by NBC News.

Kerry Berchem, who was at Yale with both Kavanaugh and his accuser, Deborah Ramirez, has attempted to get those messages to the FBI for its newly reopened investigation into the matter but says she has yet to be contacted by the bureau.

The texts between Berchem and Karen Yarasavage, both friends of Kavanaugh, suggest that the nominee was personally talking with former classmates about Ramirez’s story in advance of the New Yorker article that made her allegation public. In one message, Yarasavage said Kavanaugh asked her to go on the record in his defense. Two other messages show communication between Kavanaugh's team and former classmates in advance of the story.

The texts also demonstrate that Kavanaugh and Ramirez were more socially connected than previously understood and that Ramirez was uncomfortable around Kavanaugh when they saw each other at a wedding 10 years after they graduated. Berchem's efforts also show that some potential witnesses have been unable to get important information through to the FBI.

www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/mutual-friend-ramirez-kavanaugh-anxious-come-forward-evidence-n915566

This also contradicts his claim that he didn’t hear about this one til the New Yorker article was published.

Another brick in the wall of lies being constructed by Kavanaugh because his blind ambition has robbed him of any moral compass (if he ever had one) -- he is seeing his lifelong dream of being an Associate Justice so close that he is willing to prevaricate on matters large and small to achieve his goal and fulfill his sense of entitlement. The White House apparently barring further investigation into his "youthful drinking." I guess perjury is okay if you're Republican and, in fact, may be a requirement for an appointment in this regime.

The FBI will not, for example, conduct an unfettered review of Kavanaugh’s youthful drinking or examine statements Kavanaugh made about his alcohol consumption during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing to see if those answers were accurate or misleading, the people familiar with the matter said. The White House also could resist inquiries into new allegations, the people said.

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-adds-to-confusion-over-scope-of-fbi-investigation-of-kavanaugh-accusations/2018/10/01/1aa5e922-c561-11e8-b1ed-1d2d65b86d0c_story.html?utm_term=.92f5a191d78f

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Word... Also lying under oath is totally cool if you're a Republican justice dealing with a stressful situation.

It's really hard to tell the truth when you're stressed out and Conservative...

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Sept 30, 2018 8:07:37 GMT -5 Elvado said:

I have largely dropped from this thread so as not to inflame.

That said, the “job interview” analogy is a quaint vestige of a bygone time. How may people walk into job interviews where within 23 minutes of your application being submitted, 49% of the hiring committee has announced they will oppose your hiring with “everything they have”?

Not many I suspect. Time was this could be rightly likened to a job interview process. No longer.

I will drop back off this thread now.

For what it's worth, Republicans have also decided in the past 2 years that the following notions are "quaint":

Republicans are the "Party of Family Values"
The President should be honest with the American people
The President and members of the Administration should not profit off of political office
The President shouldn't be a racist
The President should release his tax returns
The President should represent all Americans
The President should not be beholden to a foreign power

And on...and on...and on...

[SSHoya]

Should I start a GoFundMe site to buy Judge Brett "I Like Beer" Kavanaugh this?

drink.hopsy.beer/oktoberfest/?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=A-Within_Prospecting_AX_Expansion&utm_content=AX_LL_1-5_HighLTVCustomers

Since each day seems to bring more people saying he isn’t telling the truth about one matter or another, I’ve assembled a list of Kavanaugh’s false and questionable statements. Considerations of space prevent me from going into too much detail, instead this is intended as a concise but reasonably thorough accounting. I have drawn from many sources, but I’d recommend Nathan Robinson’s opus on this topic for more. I’ll start with the most recent.

www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/10/02/all-of-brett-kavanaughs-lies-distortions-and-absurdities/?utm_term=.f509c2414702

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Republicans: Kavanaugh should not be judged based on what he did in high school, even if it might have involved sexual assault. In fact, even investigating it is a scam. He should be appointed to the Supreme Court without delay!

Also Republicans: High school students should be immediately fired from their VOLUNTEER JOBS ON A CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN for "trying to intimidate" a grown-ass man by leaving a "nasty" note on his door.

www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/spanberger-campaign-volunteers-leave-nasty-note-at-rep-dave-brats-front-door/2018/10/02/7da96e38-c659-11e8-9b1c-a90f1daae309_story.html?utm_term=.3431616d702e

Amazing that some people will tolerate any filth that comes out of the mouth of Donald Trump, but get all snowflakey over a few teenagers writing "Rot in hell, Dave."

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[hoya9797]

I guess you can add horrible misogyny to the agenda that Ed and rest so dearly support.

[SSHoya]

If I were a senator, I would not vote to confirm Brett Kavanaugh.

These are words I write with no pleasure, but with deep sadness. Unlike many people who will read them with glee—as validating preexisting political, philosophical, or jurisprudential opposition to Kavanaugh’s nomination—I have no hostility to or particular fear of conservative jurisprudence. I have a long relationship with Kavanaugh, and I have always liked him. I have admired his career on the D.C. Circuit. I have spoken warmly of him. I have published him. I have vouched publicly for his character—more than once—and taken a fair bit of heat for doing so. I have also spent a substantial portion of my adult life defending the proposition that judicial nominees are entitled to a measure of decency from the Senate and that there should be norms of civility within a process that showed Kavanaugh none even before the current allegations arose.

www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/why-i-wouldnt-confirm-brett-kavanaugh/571936/

And Flake isn’t the only erstwhile Kavanaugh supporter balking at his display. Two of his Yale Law School classmates who previously expressed support withdrew it Tuesday. In doing so, they emphasized that their decision wasn’t about Ford’s allegation, but rather about Kavanaugh’s testimony. “In our view that testimony was partisan, and not judicious, and inconsistent with what we expect from a Justice of the Supreme Court, particularly when dealing with a coequal branch of government,” Michael J. Proctor and Mark Osler wrote.

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/03/brett-kavanaughs-anger-may-have-backfired/?utm_term=.75437ca55faf

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Oct 3, 2018 0:06:15 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

The same people who support this man and this behavior are the same people now asking (unironically) why women don't report sexual assaults.

[hoya9797]

The title of the thread is now spot on.

[SSHoya]

Kavanaugh fits right in with many of Trump's appointees/nominees -- he's a perjurer. And that is material to his character, fitness, and suitability to sit as a federal judge much less as an Associate Justice on the Supreme Court.

A 1983 letter written by Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh described himself and his Georgetown Preparatory School classmates as "loud, obnoxious drunks with prolific pukers among us," The New York Times reported Tuesday.

www.cnbc.com/2018/10/03/kavanaugh-in-1983-letter-to-friends-were-loud-obnoxious-drunks.html