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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 17, 2020 15:57:16 GMT -5
I watched the 2nd half of the Butler game three times now. Timothy was absolutely tremendous. He does need to remember to box out...let McDermott go right around him for an easy putback....otherwise he was very impressive. Yeah, saw that too. I chalk it to his limited amount of playing time. Not to quibble - but when I watched it over, I thought it was Terrell's mistake - he moved toward the lane to put a body on a guy in the paint, who Tim was already trying to box out, leaving McDermott free to swoop in from the left of the paint for the easy put back. But I could be wrong.
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Post by SaxaCD on Feb 17, 2020 16:54:48 GMT -5
TI is a solid rebounder and defender under the basket. He needs to work on his lateral defense, so his man doesn’t beat him to the basket. I think what he needs to learn most right now is how the hedge works, as he seems to move too hard out (once picking up a silly foul, as did Q), and then not being able to recover, so his man beats him to the basket. With his long arms and wide body, he doesn't need to do that quite so enthusiastically. Instead, tempt a guy in and then swat him -- but as that was one of Pat's favorite moves as a player, I'm pretty sure he'll learn that trick and stay home a little better with more playing and practice time.
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Post by bostonfan on Feb 18, 2020 8:08:24 GMT -5
I love watching this young man play and am optimistic that the future holds a lot of good things for him. He was *** HUGE *** on Saturday. I was really impressed with the improvement Tim has shown from earlier in the year. In those first few games he played there were some things that stood out about him. He has great length and appears to be a high level athlete for a guy his size, but he also looked a little lost on some of the defensive rotations, a little clumsy and other than chasing an offensive rebound, he looked really lost on offense. I don't think he is ready to play big minutes in a big game yet, but the growth he has shown in just a few weeks is impressive. He looked much more in tune with his teammates on defense most of the time and he looked to take advantage of his physical abilities near the rim. People have given the staff a hard time for not "developing" players, but Tim seems to have improved significantly in just a few weeks. I would have to think coach Ewing is working with him in practice daily to reach his potential. If he can continue this growth over the summer he will be a force next year on defense and a real menace on the offensive glass.
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Post by bigelephant on Feb 18, 2020 8:43:49 GMT -5
I love watching this young man play and am optimistic that the future holds a lot of good things for him. He was *** HUGE *** on Saturday. I was really impressed with the improvement Tim has shown from earlier in the year. In those first few games he played there were some things that stood out about him. He has great length and appears to be a high level athlete for a guy his size, but he also looked a little lost on some of the defensive rotations, a little clumsy and other than chasing an offensive rebound, he looked really lost on offense. I don't think he is ready to play big minutes in a big game yet, but the growth he has shown in just a few weeks is impressive. He looked much more in tune with his teammates on defense most of the time and he looked to take advantage of his physical abilities near the rim. People have given the staff a hard time for not "developing" players, but Tim seems to have improved significantly in just a few weeks. I would have to think coach Ewing is working with him in practice daily to reach his potential. If he can continue this growth over the summer he will be a force next year on defense and a real menace on the offensive glass. Amen!
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Post by dchoya72 on Feb 18, 2020 10:15:02 GMT -5
I believe the same would apply to all of the big guys including Malcolm, whose time will come.
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Post by HoyaRejuveNation85 on Feb 18, 2020 17:12:09 GMT -5
This is the Villanova model. Stash a kid or 2 with a RS, have them practice, work out, get stronger, learn, become immediate contributors when they are eligible. If the kid buys in, it's a great formula for ready made role+ players.
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Post by jester on Mar 17, 2020 19:42:33 GMT -5
Thought I would bump up... how do people feel Tim played this season / how has his play affected your view of his potential?
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Post by drquigley on Mar 17, 2020 19:58:03 GMT -5
Thought I would bump up... how do people feel Tim played this season / how has his play affected your view of his potential? Raw, very raw. Lots of potential and probably a good backup to Wahab. Not sure how much of a scorer he will ever be but hopefully he will be our first real rim protector in years.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Mar 17, 2020 20:54:41 GMT -5
I just wished he could have red shirted this year. I believe that was the plan. I would rather see him as a power forward alongside Wahab. He is very mobile for a big man.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 17, 2020 21:42:13 GMT -5
Taking three centers in one class was never a good idea. We got Wahab last, so I guess I understand.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 18, 2020 5:33:38 GMT -5
I really like him and would love for him to get around twenty minutes a game next year. I think he and Wahab absolutely can play at the same time, at least for two or three minutes here and there. I love what he brings on defense and am glad that he already has shown he can at least contribute with tip-ins and put-backs on offense. We need a few "garbage men" as my coach used to say. He likely will never be a star, but I feel he can be a force as an upperclassman with hard work and minutes. I would take a kid like him in every class.
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Post by dchoya72 on Mar 18, 2020 7:07:08 GMT -5
He has assets that can't be taught! He is an immense man who is very athletic. I am excited to see how he develops under Coach Ewing. We (and he) have to live with his on-court mistakes. Nothing is learned without mistakes. I am waiting for his go to move...maybe a sky hook shot!
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Post by rhw485 on Mar 18, 2020 7:08:03 GMT -5
I was mildly surprised with Tim I but respectfully disagree with posters that want to see him and Wahab together.
It is extremely difficult to run efficient offense in today's game when you have two non- 3 pt shooters on the court together. Wahab and Yurt7 didn't become viable even w 7 healthy bodies and that was with Yurt7 in theory being able to stretch the court better than either of them. They played a little together but that clearly wasn't Ewing's preference.
On defense one of them would have limited impact as they would get pulled away from the hoop.
I'm also drawing a line between athletic and strong. To me, Wahab is very athletic and mobile, and will work on his strength this offseason. I didn't see that mobility w Tim I yet. He's extremely strong and bothered someone like Tyrique Jones more. But asking him to hard hedge and slide laterally didn't end well. Maybe that can evolve over time (and hopefully our scheme does as well) and the game slowing down in year 2 will help but I wasn't as impressed w his mobility. If he can stay around the hoop he will absolutely alter shots, but offenses will intentionally draw him out and he'll have to recover quickly.
He will get every minute Wahab sits and provide solid minutes but that feels like the ceiling. Don't see us running the offense through him like we might be able to w Wahab down the line.
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Post by bostonfan on Mar 18, 2020 7:28:40 GMT -5
He has assets that can't be taught! He is an immense man who is very athletic. I am excited to see how he develops under Coach Ewing. We (and he) have to live with his on-court mistakes. Nothing is learned without mistakes. I am waiting for his go to move...maybe a sky hook shot! Tim was better this year than I thought he would be and he did show some real growth as he got more playing time toward the second half of the year. With that being said he is still very raw, especially on offense. He seemed to improve his defense and was beginning to impose himself during games as a rebounder and rim protector. He clearly has a lot of upside, but has a long way to go. I am excited to see how he develops, but I would not be comfortable if the team was depending on him as anything more than a back up to give Q some rest for next year. If he shows more improvement next year, then he may become a more important part of the team/program for those last two years at Georgetown
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Post by dchoya72 on Mar 18, 2020 7:52:52 GMT -5
Defense, rebounding, rim protection and blocking out...great assets to have. And put backs. He has a good free throw form and not afraid to take short shots. He has basically good habits, and I think he needs more coaching, playing time and the opportunity to play through mistakes. I think we need a big man who can complement what Tim, Wahab, and what I expect Malcolm will bring to the table.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 18, 2020 7:55:57 GMT -5
That steal he had on an in-bounds pass against Butler was amazing- when was the last time we had a center do that? He has a lot of upside and I am glad he is a Hoya. He is huge and moves pretty well. Once he figures out what he is doing and improves his footwork he will be at the least a force on defense and the boards. He needs to improve his hands and work on grabbing the ball. He showed a decent touch on free throws toward the end of the year as well.
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Post by aggypryd on Mar 18, 2020 8:08:16 GMT -5
He still looks like he's 'new' to the game. I'd like to see if he can make a 'Roy' like leap in skill improvement in the offseason.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 18, 2020 8:19:35 GMT -5
I love what he brings.
Watch him cover 94 feet in 5 strides.
If he can be coached up on catching and dunking look out.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 18, 2020 9:50:47 GMT -5
Thought I would bump up... how do people feel Tim played this season / how has his play affected your view of his potential? I love how active he is, but he's raw. I thought that coming from the NBA Academy he would be less so. I'm impressed with his reach and built, the ease with which he runs the court, and the potential for a killer hook beyond the defender's reach is there. That said, he didn't show much lift, needs to develop his offensive moves and improve his FTs. If not, he'll get fouled a lot. He's a 57% FT shooter and his form is very inconsistent. In the same game, Tim can swish a FT as well as get a FT to rebound all the way to the FT line (it happened). Might be his long arms. On the defensive side, he was very active. If Pat continues to play the hard hedge, Tim will have an advantage with his long arms to prevent passes behind him. But, he fouls a lot (7.1 per 40 mins) so that defense might get Tim in trouble more than other defensive schemes. Also, with his physique, Tim is a presence down low, but he's not a rim protector right now. In almost 10 mpg, he averaged 0.3 blocks or 1.4 per 40 mins. Both Tim and Qudus had worse or about the same blocking numbers as Omer per 40 mins, which is not promising for next year and why Pat needs experienced, immediately available help in that position. Finally, he needs to improve his court awareness. I was there for the Providence game and witnessed the two offensive FT rebounds the team allowed while he was in the court by not boxing out rapidly and correctly. It wasn't pretty. Overall, Tim is a work in progress (as expected) who was thrown in the fire and performed up to par.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 18, 2020 10:02:00 GMT -5
YES- he must box out!!! I propose sending him to the licacademyofmeanery.
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