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Post by RBHoya on Aug 6, 2020 18:32:42 GMT -5
McDonald (https://twitter.com/RivalsDan) is a Rivals writer from Georgia, so there's reason to think he might be tied to some of the people around Ryan. Or, he may have connections to the local schools recruiting him (UGA and Tech) and may be hearing from them that they are not heavily investing in Ryan because they think he's going to Georgetown. Either way, I'd count it as a good sign though of course it's still early.
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Post by ewingitrust on Aug 6, 2020 19:34:44 GMT -5
Very encouraging news this is...i want him or Reid.
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Post by professorhoya on Aug 6, 2020 21:48:58 GMT -5
Is he really 6-11 now?
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Post by madhoya on Aug 6, 2020 22:04:18 GMT -5
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Post by tashoya on Aug 6, 2020 22:10:41 GMT -5
Paging lic... growth plates!
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Post by s4hoyas on Aug 6, 2020 22:40:44 GMT -5
Come home to your family, Ryan!
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Post by phniousgren on Aug 6, 2020 22:57:09 GMT -5
Is anyone else curious why there's virtually no youtube footage available for him? He's a rising senior there should be more. Is his development a secret(?)
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Post by MCIGuy on Aug 6, 2020 23:04:05 GMT -5
If he picked Gtown I am still of the belief he would not be as good as either Qudus or Tim when he arrives. Is he willing to spend two years of not getting much playing time? Are the Hoyas in a position to use up another schollie on a big who won't see the floor immediately?
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Post by blueandgray on Aug 7, 2020 0:04:08 GMT -5
People are talking like Q arrived and was an absolute beast as soon as he hit the court. Wahab had his first breakout game...and that was primarily on the defensive end, against Texas. The non-Conference in general was very up and down and he got better as the season wore on. Tim has several DNP’s and showed flashes but really only played spot minutes. I would expect Ryan to have at least the impact that Tim had and would be disappointed if it were anything less than that. Ryan in my mind...is much more skilled at this point than Tim. Where Tim has an obvious edge is with his body.
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Post by phniousgren on Aug 7, 2020 0:08:03 GMT -5
In total agreement, I don't see 4 star talent. In the small amount of footage I've seen I don't see enough strength or presence to move any of our current bigs to the bench. Imo he's slightly more impressive than Wilson was at that stage.
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Post by MCIGuy on Aug 7, 2020 0:13:03 GMT -5
People are talking like Q arrived and was an absolute beast as soon as he hit the court. Wahab had his first breakout game...and that was primarily on the defensive end, against Texas. The non-Conference in general was very up and down and he got better as the season wore on. Tim has several DNP’s and showed flashes but really only played spot minutes. I would expect Ryan to have at least the impact that Tim had and would be disappointed if it were anything less than that. Ryan in my mind...is much more skilled at this point than Tim. Where Tim has an obvious edge is with his body. Please point out how Ryan is "much more skilled" than Tim. Also Tim seems to have an advantage in not just his body but in quickness, athleticism and agility (based upon small sampling of both players I'll admit). Also I think it's safe to say that virtually all of Ighoefe's DNPs came as a result of his arriving very late to the Gtown program and having Yurtseven and Wahab ahead of him in a basketball era in which true but men are used less and less in lineups.
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Post by blueandgray on Aug 7, 2020 0:43:58 GMT -5
Tim is the bigger and perhaps more athletic guy at this juncture. Ryan has been around the game a lot longer, has better court awareness, and his instincts on defense or very good. He also runs the court well and has more range than Tim does on offense.
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Post by dchoya72 on Aug 7, 2020 4:38:39 GMT -5
I would love to see some intense games featuring Ryan against other bigs at camps, in games, etc. I'm sure he's learned a lot being around his dad and playing on his team. I would like to learn more, see more of him in action against good individual competition. How would anyone compare him against Efton Reid, or Chet Holmgren? How athletic is he?
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Post by SaxaCD on Aug 7, 2020 4:38:49 GMT -5
I think Ryan could be used at either 4 or 5, and he's a guy who has improved rapidly over the past few years. He should satisfy both those who like ranking numbers AND those that like rising potential. Cmon down, Ryan!
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Post by MCIGuy on Aug 7, 2020 5:43:03 GMT -5
Tim is the bigger and perhaps more athletic guy at this juncture. Ryan has been around the game a lot longer, has better court awareness, and his instincts on defense or very good. He also runs the court well and has more range than Tim does on offense. You can't say Ryan has more court awareness or instinct until you've seen him play his first ten or so games against D1 talent like Tim. As you know not everything translate from high school to college. Are you sure Ryan has more range on offense? Again these are small sample sizes we're going by. Is Ryan knocking down threes or long two-point shots on the regular? And if so will that translate to the college level, something we ask of every guard recruit, let alone big men, that Gtown is bringing in. Athleticism is one thing that you can determine almost immediately regarding players, even if you've seen only a little of them. No way is Tim merely "perhaps more athletic" than Ryan at this stage. And while Ryan can get more athletic to an extent (the same holds for Tim) I can't see him catching Tim on that regard. He may end up a better player but it's doubtful he'll ever be as athletic.
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Post by MCIGuy on Aug 7, 2020 5:57:35 GMT -5
I think Ryan could be used at either 4 or 5, and he's a guy who has improved rapidly over the past few years. He should satisfy both those who like ranking numbers AND those that like rising potential. Cmon down, Ryan! From everything I read the knock on Ryan is that he appears to be more of an old school back-to-basket bigman and thus can only play the five in this modern brand of basketball. And that worries me that the team could be overcrowded at that position next season even if someone transfers. I don't want a legacy kid like Ryan who is rated relatively high coming into the program to sit behind at least two guys whom I doubt he'll jump ahead of. It's a bad look and could cause a bit of division. How would Dikembe feel about that? And knowing THIS board if Ryan does sit and wait his turn for two years and the Hoyas recruit some stud big man from say the 2023 class, folks here would be penciling that player in the starting lineup ahead of Ryan. Some folks who are so eager to get Ryan now would brush off any consideration for his feelings in such a scenario, justifying it as typical outcome of big time college athletics. I realize I'm getting way ahead of things here but I don't want such a scenario to play out for the son of one of the program's greatest and most loyal players.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Aug 7, 2020 6:29:13 GMT -5
Look - the issues discussed here would be a good problem to have. I take it that MCI and others like Timmy- I do as well and really hope that he sees the court a lot during the next few years. I think his upside on defense as well as to be a garbage man on offense, and perhaps more, is excellent. Q will be a plus player for us- the only question I have is how good can he be? We will find out.
What if we could have two of Q, Timmy, and Ryan on the floor for a year or two? I think at least one of them could guard the four on the perimeter when that is called for at times. We would have a chance to own the boards and hammer opponents with fouls inside. I will gladly deal with the growing pains that come along with that if it pans out.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Aug 7, 2020 8:07:43 GMT -5
Bigs in college rack up fouls. Yurt & Q got plenty of minutes this year and when Yurt went down we were scrambling. The kid is a top 75 recruit which is higher then all the bigs on our roster. He has apparently developed rapidly this past year and I am sure he will continue to improve. That will to work is probably our guys most important trait. Tim can be great on D but man was he a project. There is nothing wrong with a kid not starting his freshman year and developing into a useful piece in year 2 which is what we all would expect here. I would like the pick up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 8:17:24 GMT -5
We haven't had talent in so long that people forget the normal amount of positional cover on a good team.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 8:22:56 GMT -5
I think Ryan could be used at either 4 or 5, and he's a guy who has improved rapidly over the past few years. He should satisfy both those who like ranking numbers AND those that like rising potential. Cmon down, Ryan! From everything I read the knock on Ryan is that he appears to be more of an old school back-to-basket bigman and thus can only play the five in this modern brand of basketball. And that worries me that the team could be overcrowded at that position next season even if someone transfers. I don't want a legacy kid like Ryan who is rated relatively high coming into the program to sit behind at least two guys whom I doubt he'll jump ahead of. It's a bad look and could cause a bit of division. How would Dikembe feel about that? And knowing THIS board if Ryan does sit and wait his turn for two years and the Hoyas recruit some stud big man from say the 2023 class, folks here would be penciling that player in the starting lineup ahead of Ryan. Some folks who are so eager to get Ryan now would brush off any consideration for his feelings in such a scenario, justifying it as typical outcome of big time college athletics. I realize I'm getting way ahead of things here but I don't want such a scenario to play out for the son of one of the program's greatest and most loyal players. Me personally, I see Ryan as the traitional power forward. I see him with his basket to the basket but playing the power forward position. By his junior year, I see him dominating the inside game provided he gets stronger, gets better with his feet movement and get a couple of moves within those first two years.. If he can knock down the ten footer on a consistent basis and play the inside like Zo, Malone, Akeem (even though Akeem was a center), he should do fine and that would be all we need from him. I personally don't see him playing the five in his first year because too me, he's too small. They list him at 7 feet tall but I think it's more like he's 6'9" and like 210 pounds.
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