bigskyhoya
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Post by bigskyhoya on May 28, 2020 14:14:52 GMT -5
Come to our school and also you have to do the recruiting because we're inept at it is not a selling point. One trick pony. Boring...
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Post by FromTheBeginning on May 28, 2020 14:34:30 GMT -5
If inept - how did they get the first player to commit???
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TC
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Post by TC on May 28, 2020 14:42:37 GMT -5
If inept - how did they get the first player to commit??? They didn't get the first player to commit. Ryan Mutumbo is uncommitted. I think it's taking it for granted that he'll commit to suggest that he should be committing early and recruiting for us. Last time we recruited a famous alumni's ranked son, we lost out to Indiana.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on May 28, 2020 15:29:04 GMT -5
If inept - how did they get the first player to commit??? They didn't get the first player to commit. Ryan Mutumbo is uncommitted. I think it's taking it for granted that he'll commit to suggest that he should be committing early and recruiting for us. Last time we recruited a famous alumni's ranked son, we lost out to Indiana. JJ Jr. to MSU.
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hoyainla
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Post by hoyainla on May 28, 2020 16:20:46 GMT -5
If he is going to come, he should commit early and recruit others like Frankie to join him. I strongly agree with this. I think this is more important than what he brings on the court at least early in his career. I say that because as he is right now he is a true 5 although his range greatly improved this last year. It still only extends to about 15 feet. I think he's very good but I'm not sure he is going to be able to beat out a junior Qudus when he first gets here. I do think he has the potential to bring in another good recruit or two with him though and the earlier he commits the easier that will be.
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on May 28, 2020 16:55:47 GMT -5
If he does commit early, it would be huge. I know that many players try to recruit others to join them once they commit, but I don't think it's incumbent on anyone to do so. If Ryan commits early not only would we be getting our highest rated recruit in years, but it would also be a valuable endorsement at a time when most national observers have a lot of questions about our program due to continued struggles on and off the court. In other words, if he commits early we should be doubly grateful.
But all indications have been that he wants to wait it out and experience the full recruiting process. I don't think you can hold that against anyone. He has offers from several schools in the ACC, SEC and beyond, some of whom have much better recent track records than we do both in terms of on-court success and in getting players drafted. He is a smart kid and I think even the most diehard Hoya fan would have to admit that he's wise to consider all his options. It's his future, after all.
I'd also note that the same argument could be made in reverse. My intuition is that Ryan has the deepest connection with Patrick by far and wants to be a Hoya, but I'm sure that he--like pretty much everyone else--has some uncertainty about the direction of the program after all the roster attrition and unsatisfying finishes. If we could land another highly regarded recruit, that might help to give him some certainty that things are moving in the right direction. If I was him I'd much rather have that be the case than to take the personal risk of committing early and then hoping that recruiting and on-court play picks up. I'm sure the thought has at least crossed his mind that if neither area takes a big leap forward that Patrick may not be at the helm for the entire time he's on the team.
As far as how important a recruit he is, I don't think it can be overstated. Honestly, in a vacuum, there's nothing wrong with him wanting to go elsewhere and create his own legacy rather than being in the shadow of his dad. But given everything else that we've gone through, I think the public perception if he commits elsewhere will be very negative toward the staff and the program (assuming we haven't significantly overachieved on the court next season and/or pulled in any other Top 100-type recruits to compensate).
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hoyafan23
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Post by hoyafan23 on Jun 3, 2020 12:37:11 GMT -5
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Nevada Hoya
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jun 3, 2020 12:50:05 GMT -5
I think Ryan's going to Georgetown should be a slamdunk. Who is our coach! Where did his dad go! And he would be following in the footsteps of Pat Jr. and Trey Mourning. Make it three for three, Ryan!!!
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Jun 3, 2020 13:21:52 GMT -5
I would not take this piece from the article as great news for the Hoyas...
"In terms of making a college choice, Mutombo said his timeframe is next March or April, and wants to schedule a handful of official visits prior to making a college choice."
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 3, 2020 13:27:21 GMT -5
I would not take this piece from the article as great news for the Hoyas... "In terms of making a college choice, Mutombo said his timeframe is next March or April, and wants to schedule a handful of official visits prior to making a college choice." How's that for a hard hedge? Let's not kid ourselves: the perception of Georgetown in April 2021 could be markedly different-- good or bad-- than what it is right now.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 3, 2020 16:37:04 GMT -5
Ryan is figuring it out and getting all available information. Especially in these times, he has little to gain from an early commitment. If he becomes a Hoya it should be because it is the best fit for him for basketball and for academics. Not because of his Dad. Not just because Ewng is our coach.
Good for Ryan.
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s4hoyas
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Post by s4hoyas on Jun 3, 2020 23:10:12 GMT -5
I think he starts immediately at power forward, and he and Qudus would make a very formidable front line, with good quality depth at the other spots...
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Post by centercourt400s on Jun 4, 2020 8:41:50 GMT -5
I think he starts immediately at power forward, and he and Qudus would make a very formidable front line, with good quality depth at the other spots... Oh yeah... and sounds like from the 247 article he's really working on his 3 pt shot. A long and athletic power forward with a reliable 3 pt shot would be a fearsome companion to Qudus and Ighoefe.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 11:03:16 GMT -5
Ryan gets his 1st GU crystal ball prediction on 24/7. Thank you, Brian Snow!
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jun 4, 2020 11:11:25 GMT -5
I hope he comes and commits early. I don’t want to sound dramatic, but the ‘21 class is make or break.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Jun 4, 2020 12:43:09 GMT -5
I hope he comes and commits early. I don’t want to sound dramatic, but the ‘21 class is make or break. I understand and appreciate that Ryan wants to enjoy the process and take his time, but man, it would be really, really helpful for him to get in the boat and start recruiting guys to come with him. Start to stabilize things a bit. Again, I don't blame him, but it sure would help! If he can just commit before the season starts this fall, I would be very happy. Get him in the boat, have a solid start to the season with umpteen freshman getting minutes, that would be a nice look.
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Jun 4, 2020 12:55:25 GMT -5
I love Patrick and have since we arrived together On the Hilltop in 1981.
That said, we have not played winning basketball; recruiting has been hit or miss at best; his celebrity is not drawing top big men; and attrition is at best disturbing.
If he cannot land Dikembe’s son exactly what is the rationale for his continuing as HC?
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IDenj
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Post by IDenj on Jun 4, 2020 14:01:53 GMT -5
Landing a top recruiting class for 2021 is more important to the program than wins and losses in the upcoming season. If the staff falls flat on this class it will lead to a new coaching staff.
21 is that important.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jun 4, 2020 15:14:26 GMT -5
A strong ’21 class could put the defections in the rear view mirror. If we whiff on the ‘21s, confidence for any sort of near term rebound goes out the window.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Jun 4, 2020 15:34:46 GMT -5
Landing a top recruiting class for 2021 is more important to the program than wins and losses in the upcoming season. If the staff falls flat on this class it will lead to a new coaching staff. 21 is that important. 2021 class is very important, but not more important than a competitive season. Go 15-15 again and it doesn't matter if Mutombo and Collins or whoever are in the boat, that is a sinking boat. Need 18+ wins, top 6 in the Big East finish; I know that is a lot to ask with six freshman, but it has to happen.
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