hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 22, 2021 19:39:44 GMT -5
Former Republican George Will. Immigration, a wit has said, is the sincerest form of flattery. This dispirited nation needs some of that, so President Biden has wisely made immigration reform his initial legislative proposal. The nation also needs a healthy opposition party, and the impending immigration debate will give the Republican Party an early opportunity to rehabilitate its reputation by adopting policies unlike those of Biden’s predecessor, who propelled his ascent to the presidency by stoking anxieties about immigration. Congressional Republicans will have to choose between aligning with the animosity of constituents who misunderstand how this nation has prospered by assimilating 100 million immigrants, or with the generosity of the United States’ majority. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/immigration-is-the-sincerest-form-of-flattery-this-country-needs-a-good-hit-of-it/2021/01/21/eb554434-5c2a-11eb-8bcf-3877871c819d_story.htmlI forecast animosity on an overwhelming basis.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2021 9:47:06 GMT -5
Things I think about when folks say they liked Trump’s policies...
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Post by hoya9797 on Feb 4, 2021 10:36:01 GMT -5
Things I think about when folks say they liked Trump’s policies... The cruelty was always the point of the agenda.
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Post by TC on Feb 4, 2021 10:59:54 GMT -5
The cruelty was always the point of the agenda. Post one of this thread poses the premise that you need to throw kids into cages to be fair to American citizen criminals.
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 4, 2021 11:41:15 GMT -5
The cruelty was always the point of the agenda. Post one of this thread poses the premise that you need to throw kids into cages to be fair to American citizen criminals. That post certainly didn't age well. That sordid episode will be down there with the Japanese internment during WWII as one of America's most egregious human rights violations.
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Post by hoya9797 on Feb 4, 2021 13:38:17 GMT -5
This one, a little further down page one, looks pretty bad now that the facts are in. You both are much smarter than that. Senator Harris, eyes clearly fixed on 2020, completely misstated the enforcement at the border as a policy to separate families. It is not and she well knows it. Secretary Nielsen accurately pointed out that every day in this country, families are separated as a result of criminal activity by parents. Sure solution to the problem of people being separated, stop trying to sneak into the US.
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Post by TC on Feb 4, 2021 18:06:13 GMT -5
Harris was completely correct there.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 4, 2021 18:17:01 GMT -5
It sure does make one wonder which families the former GOP is talking about when they refer to being the "family values" party.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 11:44:39 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2021 23:31:19 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 15:07:34 GMT -5
One of the weirdest things I’ve seen from Republicans was people of “faith” cheering a policy that separates kids from their parents. There is no part of the aligns with what the Bible teaches.
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Post by tashoya on Dec 27, 2021 16:18:41 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 27, 2021 16:42:53 GMT -5
GOPers are nothing but hypocrites. That is all. They are radical nihilistic authoritarians in the thrall of a psychopathic cult leader. Review the first post that created this thread.
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 27, 2021 19:45:35 GMT -5
Biden is surreptitiously flying illegal immigrants into red states, so they can illegally vote for Dems in next year's elections. How do I know this? Because Newsmax says so! One of my wife's crazy friends, the maid of honor at our wedding many years ago and a physician, no less, told her this the other day, and she (the friend, not my wife), actually believes it. Bat____ crazy.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 5, 2022 16:52:06 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2022 12:17:50 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 22, 2022 7:05:20 GMT -5
Every day in courtrooms around this country, the children of American citizens are separated from their parents by operation of law. In Kamalaland, the children of non -citizens deserve more protection. No thanks. Trump-administration officials insisted for a whole year that family separations weren’t happening. Finally, in the spring of 2018, they announced the implementation of a separation policy with great fanfare—as if one had not already been under way for months. Then they declared that separating families was not the goal of the policy, but an unfortunate result of prosecuting parents who crossed the border illegally with their children. Yet a mountain of evidence shows that this is explicitly false: Separating children was not just a side effect, but the intent. Instead of working to reunify families after parents were prosecuted, officials worked to keep them apart for longer. It’s been said of other Trump-era projects that the administration’s incompetence mitigated its malevolence; here, the opposite happened. A flagrant failure to prepare meant that courts, detention centers, and children’s shelters became dangerously overwhelmed; that parents and children were lost to each other, sometimes many states apart; that four years later, some families are still separated—and that even many of those who have been reunited have suffered irreparable harm. Another argument Nielsen made is still popular today among veterans of the Trump administration: that separating migrant children from their parents for the purposes of prosecution was no different from what happens in American criminal proceedings every day. “If an American parent is pulled over for a DUI and their child is in the back seat,” this argument goes, “the child doesn’t go to jail with them.” But as U.S. attorneys—who are arguably the highest authorities on this subject—came to understand what was happening to families after separated parents left the courtroom, they wholly disagreed with this assessment. American parents who are arrested in the United States typically have access to a system for getting their children back when they are released from custody. According to a source, John Bash, the Trump-appointed U.S. attorney in El Paso, recently testified in federal court that he was horrified to discover in June 2018 that in the few days it took his office to finish prosecuting parents, their children were already being shipped as far away as New York, with no system in place for reuniting them. “It was like, ‘You’re telling me the kid is nowhere to be found and they’re in some other state?!’ ” Bash reportedly said. www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/09/trump-administration-family-separation-policy-immigration/670604/Caitlin Dickerson discusses the Trump administration’s devastating family-separation policy and bureaucratic failures—and how it could happen again. [H]aving looked back at immigration policy all the way back to the 19th century in the United States, separating children from their parents as an immigration policy hasn’t happened before. It was the harshest application any of us have seen of this basic concept of prevention by deterrence, which is how we approach immigration enforcement generally. And it was so harsh and painful for parents and for children, and continues to be, that I had to stick with it. www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2022/08/big-story-family-separation-trump-immigration/671118/
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Post by SSHoya on Jul 22, 2023 12:05:19 GMT -5
Every day in courtrooms around this country, the children of American citizens are separated from their parents by operation of law. In Kamalaland, the children of non -citizens deserve more protection. No thanks. Remember, with the MAGA GOP the cruelty was the point. Very Christian behavior, right? I wish that our HoyaTalk "Republicans" would actually read this entire article and explain to your own children why you ever supported such a cruel and inhumane policy. Years after a border separation, a family’s reunion was in a judge’s hands NASHVILLE — She sat on the edge of a picnic table outside the Comfort Inn and waited for the hearing to begin. “Hello?” Magdalena Hernández Pérez said into her phone. “Can you hear me?” On the screen flashed the face of a judge in California, the man deciding whether she would see her daughter again, more than five years after they were separated by U.S. Border Patrol agents. “Hello?” she tried again. She wore a blue work uniform and pink lipstick that she hoped would make her look more American. There was no response. Her hand trembled, then the screen turned black. The Biden administration had brought Magdalena from Guatemala to the United States to reunite with her daughter, a reversal of the Trump administration’s policy of family separation that had torn them apart. But now a county judge’s question loomed over their future: Was Magdalena the right person to raise her own child? “Fifty-fifty,” is how her social workers had described Magdalena’s chances at the hearing. U.S. Border Patrol agents had taken her 9-year-old daughter from her in December 2017 at an immigration detention facility in Arizona. They were among the first migrant families to be separated by the Trump administration — and now had endured one of the longest separations. Between 2017 and 2018, the United States took about 5,000 migrant children from their parents. In most cases, the children were sent to live with relatives in the United States and the parents were deported. But in cases such as Mildred’s, when no family members were available to host the children, they were sent to foster homes. Custody was transferred to state welfare agencies and private foster services. Some parents were warned by immigration officials that their children could be adopted by American families. www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/07/21/migrant-family-separations-border-reunification/
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Post by SSHoya on Oct 16, 2023 11:44:40 GMT -5
Every day in courtrooms around this country, the children of American citizens are separated from their parents by operation of law. In Kamalaland, the children of non -citizens deserve more protection. No thanks. Court settlement would bar separating migrant families as Trump did The Biden administration on Monday agreed to a court settlement that would bar U.S. authorities from referring migrant parents traveling with children for criminal prosecution for illegally entering the United States, a largely condemned practice used by the Trump administration. If approved by a judge, this provision in the proposed settlement would remain in effect for eight years, preventing an administration during that time from restoring a “zero tolerance” prosecution policy. That Trump policy forced the separation of thousands of parents and children at the southern border in 2018. U.S. District Judge Dana Sabraw, a Republican appointee who declared the separations unlawful in 2018 and has overseen family reunifications, would determine whether to approve the settlement after a hearing, possibly in December. www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2023/10/16/migrants-separated-families-trump-biden/
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