Hoyas4Ever
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A Wise Man Once Told Me Don't Argue With Fools....
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Dec 7, 2018 22:49:30 GMT -5
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s4hoyas
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Post by s4hoyas on Dec 7, 2018 22:59:40 GMT -5
Who is Cam Thomas...if he's available, maybe worth a serious look...
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 7, 2018 23:38:03 GMT -5
6’3” Junior SG. 5-10 from three works.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 8, 2018 0:04:12 GMT -5
How is a low offense/high defense center an NBA style? Shouldn't he want to build a style that competes with the best college teams? Look at most of the center who start now. they are rim runners who can block shots, they have no post game.. Capela, jarrett allen, bimoybo, Thomas Bryant, Tyson Chandler, DeAndre Jordan. Thats the Nba center now. He wants to build a style that he is comfortable with. Whether it "wins" in college will be seen. But I'd rather him build his team his way. BTW Malcolm is playing ok against Kofi Cockburn in the 1st half I saw. had 6 pts. I looked up the players you mentioned above and most of their teams have terrible records, where are the rim running centers on the top teams? My hope for Wilson is that he develops into much more than a shot-blocking rim runner, same goes for Tim I.
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dense
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Post by dense on Dec 8, 2018 0:32:10 GMT -5
Look at most of the center who start now. they are rim runners who can block shots, they have no post game.. Capela, jarrett allen, bimoybo, Thomas Bryant, Tyson Chandler, DeAndre Jordan. Thats the Nba center now. He wants to build a style that he is comfortable with. Whether it "wins" in college will be seen. But I'd rather him build his team his way. BTW Malcolm is playing ok against Kofi Cockburn in the 1st half I saw. had 6 pts. I looked up the players you mentioned above and most of their teams have terrible records, where are the rim running centers on the top teams? l My hope for Wilson is that he develops into much more than a shot-blocking rim runner, same goes for Tim I. Capela started all last year for Houston when they were the top seed. DeAndre was the center when the Clippers were good. Dallas won a title with Chandlerdoing that very thing. This is not a 2018 NBA thing, its been going on for the past 5 years. Jordan Bell starts for the warriors alot of nights
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 5:43:53 GMT -5
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Dec 8, 2018 9:37:28 GMT -5
Met him at the rim and put him on the ground- LOVE LOVE LOVE it!
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wolveribe
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Post by wolveribe on Dec 8, 2018 9:53:32 GMT -5
Look at most of the center who start now. they are rim runners who can block shots, they have no post game.. Capela, jarrett allen, bimoybo, Thomas Bryant, Tyson Chandler, DeAndre Jordan. Thats the Nba center now. He wants to build a style that he is comfortable with. Whether it "wins" in college will be seen. But I'd rather him build his team his way. BTW Malcolm is playing ok against Kofi Cockburn in the 1st half I saw. had 6 pts. I looked up the players you mentioned above and most of their teams have terrible records, where are the rim running centers on the top teams? My hope for Wilson is that he develops into much more than a shot-blocking rim runner, same goes for Tim I. Gobert, Adams, Stein, McGee Block shots and run the floor. On offense, be a threat on the pick and roll.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 8, 2018 12:13:26 GMT -5
I looked up the players you mentioned above and most of their teams have terrible records, where are the rim running centers on the top teams? l My hope for Wilson is that he develops into much more than a shot-blocking rim runner, same goes for Tim I. Capela started all last year for Houston when they were the top seed. DeAndre was the center when the Clippers were good. Dallas won a title with Chandlerdoing that very thing. This is not a 2018 NBA thing, its been going on for the past 5 years. Jordan Bell starts for the warriors alot of nights I'll concede the debate on what teams in the NBA are doing because I don't watch NBA games, to be honest... I do watch a lot of CBB though and I don't see the style of play you think PE is striving for being played by many teams in college, let alone top programs in college
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 13:02:51 GMT -5
Capela started all last year for Houston when they were the top seed. DeAndre was the center when the Clippers were good. Dallas won a title with Chandlerdoing that very thing. This is not a 2018 NBA thing, its been going on for the past 5 years. Jordan Bell starts for the warriors alot of nights I'll concede the debate on what teams in the NBA are doing because I don't watch NBA games, to be honest... I do watch a lot of CBB though and I don't see the style of play you think PE is striving for being played by many teams in college, let alone top programs in college UVA- Diakite and Jack Salt are both more defensive bigs that don't really add much offense. I do think there's a lot of truth to what you're saying. The list is definitely more in your favor than against, but I also think the guys being debated were brought in to be more complimentary/system guys rather than for sure starters. I also wonder what their plan for Grayson Carter is. I personally think his best position is stretch 5 but he probably wants to be a SF....
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Dec 8, 2018 21:51:16 GMT -5
lol. Pat's definitely not looking for another Jesse. He wants the opposite of Jesse Folks are gonna miss Govan when he's gone... I'm not going to miss never being able to get a defensive stop while he's on the floor. We'll find a way to make up for his offense
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 8, 2018 22:25:18 GMT -5
Folks are gonna miss Govan when he's gone... I'm not going to miss never being able to get a defensive stop while he's on the floor. We'll find a way to make up for his offense I'm sure they will too, smh...
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Dec 9, 2018 5:25:32 GMT -5
Capela started all last year for Houston when they were the top seed. DeAndre was the center when the Clippers were good. Dallas won a title with Chandlerdoing that very thing. This is not a 2018 NBA thing, its been going on for the past 5 years. Jordan Bell starts for the warriors alot of nights I'll concede the debate on what teams in the NBA are doing because I don't watch NBA games, to be honest... I do watch a lot of CBB though and I don't see the style of play you think PE is striving for being played by many teams in college, let alone top programs in college Did you watch the Syracuse game? Chukwu fits this mold.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 9, 2018 7:41:42 GMT -5
I'll concede the debate on what teams in the NBA are doing because I don't watch NBA games, to be honest... I do watch a lot of CBB though and I don't see the style of play you think PE is striving for being played by many teams in college, let alone top programs in college Did you watch the Syracuse game? Chukwu fits this mold. So you’d trade Govan for Chukwu?
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Dec 9, 2018 9:24:31 GMT -5
Did you watch the Syracuse game? Chukwu fits this mold. So you’d trade Govan for Chukwu? That wasn’t the question posed. At issue was the usage of defensive minded rim runners in college. We lost to a team yesterday that features one. I watch a lot of college ball too. Hahaha!
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 9, 2018 9:41:41 GMT -5
So you’d trade Govan for Chukwu? That wasn’t the question posed. At issue was the usage of defensive minded rim runners in college. We lost to a team yesterday that features one. I watch a lot of college ball too. Hahaha! I did state "not many" in my post but I guess that didn't matter... I'll ask again would you trade a Govan for a Chukwu?
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Dec 9, 2018 13:38:36 GMT -5
That wasn’t the question posed. At issue was the usage of defensive minded rim runners in college. We lost to a team yesterday that features one. I watch a lot of college ball too. Hahaha! I did state "not many" in my post but I guess that didn't matter... I'll ask again would you trade a Govan for a Chukwu? I'll field that one. NO!
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 10, 2018 19:04:45 GMT -5
Chukwu's a stiff.
Having a rim protector who contributes little on offense is ok if your other 4 players are versatile scorers. Also, the rim protector needs to be a really good rim protector, not a stiff.
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kbones17
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Post by kbones17 on Dec 10, 2018 23:43:54 GMT -5
Chukwu's a stiff. Having a rim protector who contributes little on offense is ok if your other 4 players are versatile scorers. Also, the rim protector needs to be a really good rim protector, not a stiff. I’ll second this. Chukwu is an ok rebounder, affects some shots (but fouls a lot doing it) and generally can’t do anything on offense other than convert wide open dunks from 2 feet away (like he did on Saturday). If Malcolm Wilson is Chukwu in 4 years than it won’t have been worth it. Not saying this will be the case.
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madgesiq92
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Post by madgesiq92 on Dec 11, 2018 4:16:59 GMT -5
Board is delusional. Ewing would and all Georgetown fans should sign up for Wilson to have impact that Chukwu has.
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