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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 27, 2020 18:37:53 GMT -5
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Post by trillesthoya on Jul 28, 2020 13:42:53 GMT -5
I don't think this is true yet. He was on the list of 105 players that can be invited by teams, but that's not officially who has been invited to the combine.
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Post by bicentennial on Jul 28, 2020 19:13:57 GMT -5
It appears certain teams have been announcing that their players received invites. Not sure if that is what Hoyas 247 was doing? Apparently 60-70 top players received invites from the NBA out of the published 105 released 5 days ago. Would be nice if GU would announce if Omer Yurtseven was one of them.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jul 28, 2020 19:32:43 GMT -5
It appears certain teams have been announcing that their players received invites. Not sure if that is what Hoyas 247 was doing? Apparently 60-70 top players received invites from the NBA out of the published 105 released 5 days ago. Would be nice if GU would announce if Omer Yurtseven was one of them. Hoyas 247 was just tweeting about the 105. The other teams I believe are also tweeting about the 105. It’s an awkward interim announcement where the 105 are eligible but maybe or maybe not all will get an invite. To be fair, I was also confused and posted erroneously here about the 105 being combine invites before I tweeted about it more accurately. Either way it’s great that Yurtseven is being considered!
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Post by DanMcQ on Sept 8, 2020 20:50:03 GMT -5
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Post by trillesthoya on Sept 8, 2020 21:13:04 GMT -5
Really hoping this guy gets his crack at the league. Would be huge for the program if he were to get drafted, and he is a really great guy off the court.
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Post by MCIGuy on Sept 9, 2020 0:58:14 GMT -5
Thinking he'll get a legit crack at the league even if undrafted. Unfortunately we seem to have far more players over the past ten plus years who get to the league through the "back door" like that rather than the draft (Hollis, Henry, Derrickson).
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Sept 9, 2020 6:28:17 GMT -5
Not to mention my childhood hero Charles Smith!
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Post by prhoya on Sept 9, 2020 7:19:01 GMT -5
Best of luck to Omer! Someone should ask him why he only shot 14 3s after shooting 44 3s in his previous season. If the game has evolved towards bigs stepping out, why did he not play that way under Ewing?
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Sept 9, 2020 8:00:10 GMT -5
I am not sure that shooting threes was his role on that team, and he never looked all that comfortable doing it.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Sept 10, 2020 16:25:14 GMT -5
Best of luck to Omer! Someone should ask him why he only shot 14 3s after shooting 44 3s in his previous season. If the game has evolved towards bigs stepping out, why did he not play that way under Ewing? Obviously, I am not in the locker room, but my best sense is that Ewing did not create a scheme under which Yurtseven got much opportunity to do that. The same thing happened with Govan, who played a lot more minutes in his junior year, yet he shot only a handful more threes. To his and Ewing's credit, Govan did get many, many, more touches from three his senior year, and he shot them at a high rate (41.2%). I realize there is some dispute here over the level of Yurtseven's three point shooting ability, but he only took 14 threes, after taking 44 in his last season at NC State. It was also really obvious from the offensive scheme, that Ewing wanted Yurtseven to be in the post/mid-range area. Yurtseven is good enough that he shot fairly well anyway, but that's not really the most modern way to get efficiency out of a big man. As I have said on here ad nauseum, even in the NBA, once you get past the top 10 or so big guys, efficiency on post-ups falls a fairly substantial amount compared to other types of plays and shots. Now, before you think I am going too far, there is definitely a place for posting up in the college game, especially when you have a supremely talented college big man, but it simply should not be the cornerstone of any modern offense. As a team, 286 other programs took a higher percentage of threes than Georgetown. We simply cannot win taking so few threes, and unless you get someone like Zion Williamson who is going to shoot 2's at a ridiculous rate, you simply cannot trade twos for threes and expect to win.
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Post by MCIGuy on Sept 10, 2020 20:59:17 GMT -5
There are issues I have with how either Yurt was used or how Ewing hyped him up to be the most offensively gifted 7-footer he had ever seen. I too think he should have taken more threes. But if he wanted to be almost exclusively a big who took two-point shots that could have worked too considering the high percentage Yurt was hitting. The problem was, besides the injuries of course, is that once BE play began Yurtseven wanted no part of that post up game or was too inconsistent in posting up and demanding the ball. Could not figure it out.
That said Wahab looks like a willing post player who also hits at an efficient rate. If he can keep that up even with increase minutes and usage it would be dumb not to make his post game a cornerstone of the offense. His play inside often kept Gtown in games because other BE teams for the most part had no one on their rosters who could stop him. And hopefully such mismatches this upcoming season will lead o more open looks from the three.
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Post by zxhoya on Sept 10, 2020 21:26:24 GMT -5
There are issues I have with how either Yurt was used or how Ewing hyped him up to be the most offensively gifted 7-footer he had ever seen. I too think he should have taken more threes. But if he wanted to be almost exclusively a big who took two-point shots that could have worked too considering the high percentage Yurt was hitting. The problem was, besides the injuries of course, is that once BE play began Yurtseven wanted no part of that post up game or was too inconsistent in posting up and demanding the ball. Could not figure it out. That said Wahab looks like a willing post player who also hits at an efficient rate. If he can keep that up even with increase minutes and usage it would be dumb not to make his post game a cornerstone of the offense. His play inside often kept Gtown in games because other BE teams for the most part had no one on their rosters who could stop him. And hopefully such mismatches this upcoming season will lead o more open looks from the three. I agree with this completely MCI. I wish Yurt the absolute best and he's still young so he could potentially develop into an NBA caliber big but I believe as (Yurt) presently skilled and the direction the league is fast heading (arrived), he's not ready. I think playing a lot professionally either in the G-League or overseas, he could work his way to the league. I'll be rooting for him obviously.
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Post by professorhoya on Sept 10, 2020 22:57:05 GMT -5
There are issues I have with how either Yurt was used or how Ewing hyped him up to be the most offensively gifted 7-footer he had ever seen. I too think he should have taken more threes. But if he wanted to be almost exclusively a big who took two-point shots that could have worked too considering the high percentage Yurt was hitting. The problem was, besides the injuries of course, is that once BE play began Yurtseven wanted no part of that post up game or was too inconsistent in posting up and demanding the ball. Could not figure it out. That said Wahab looks like a willing post player who also hits at an efficient rate. If he can keep that up even with increase minutes and usage it would be dumb not to make his post game a cornerstone of the offense. His play inside often kept Gtown in games because other BE teams for the most part had no one on their rosters who could stop him. And hopefully such mismatches this upcoming season will lead o more open looks from the three. Well the other problem was half our team disappeared in November, especially all our athletic, tall, long swingmen who could have grabbed rebounds, if Yurt7 floated outside for 3s. We'll never know.
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Post by MCIGuy on Sept 11, 2020 4:27:54 GMT -5
There are issues I have with how either Yurt was used or how Ewing hyped him up to be the most offensively gifted 7-footer he had ever seen. I too think he should have taken more threes. But if he wanted to be almost exclusively a big who took two-point shots that could have worked too considering the high percentage Yurt was hitting. The problem was, besides the injuries of course, is that once BE play began Yurtseven wanted no part of that post up game or was too inconsistent in posting up and demanding the ball. Could not figure it out. That said Wahab looks like a willing post player who also hits at an efficient rate. If he can keep that up even with increase minutes and usage it would be dumb not to make his post game a cornerstone of the offense. His play inside often kept Gtown in games because other BE teams for the most part had no one on their rosters who could stop him. And hopefully such mismatches this upcoming season will lead o more open looks from the three. Well the other problem was half our team disappeared in November, especially all our athletic, tall, long swingmen who could have grabbed rebounds, if Yurt7 floated outside for 3s. We'll never know. But he wasn't taking threes when he had a full deck. Even when guys left he still stayed exclusively in the paint. Once league play began however his shot attempts went way south overall.
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Post by professorhoya on Sept 11, 2020 6:46:46 GMT -5
Well the other problem was half our team disappeared in November, especially all our athletic, tall, long swingmen who could have grabbed rebounds, if Yurt7 floated outside for 3s. We'll never know. But he wasn't taking threes when he had a full deck. Even when guys left he still stayed exclusively in the paint. Once league play began however his shot attempts went way south overall. But we never really had a full deck since LeBlanc was in the doghouse and suspended or reduced minutes for most of that time. And you had the driver of the bus (Akinjo) not following directions. And Galen and Myron were sweating out the allegations the whole time. And this is on top of the face that they were all still getting used to playing with each other since Myron was a freshman and Galen a transfer.
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Post by prhoya on Sept 11, 2020 8:17:30 GMT -5
But he wasn't taking threes when he had a full deck. Even when guys left he still stayed exclusively in the paint. Once league play began however his shot attempts went way south overall. But we never really had a full deck since LeBlanc was in the doghouse and suspended or reduced minutes for most of that time. And you had the driver of the bus (Akinjo) not following directions. And Galen and Myron were sweating out the allegations the whole time. And this is on top of the face that they were all still getting used to playing with each other since Myron was a freshman and Galen a transfer. What does it matter if the team was full or not? If you have a weapon, you have to use it. We know that Omer was great at NCSt from 3 in his last season there (22 of 44 for 50%). In his only season at GU, he shot 14 3s!
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Post by paranoia2 on Sept 11, 2020 8:57:31 GMT -5
Seems like a nice guy & I hope he has a solid career in the pros....not the NBA. Not good enough. Don’t care about metrics, usage or scheme I simply think of one 4 letter word when I think of Yurtseven: S-O-F-T .
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Post by rockhoya on Sept 11, 2020 10:11:25 GMT -5
The struggle is real for collective basketball iq around here 😔
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Post by paranoia2 on Sept 11, 2020 10:34:35 GMT -5
The struggle is real for collective basketball iq around here 😔 Is this post referring to anything in particular? Because my collective basketball IQ, my eyes and the future will all back up that Yurtseven is/was SOFT & he will not play in the NBA.
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