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Post by MCIGuy on Sept 30, 2018 8:17:41 GMT -5
Don't see how Yurt playing this season would boost his prospects through improved play. For him to get the most minutes he needs he would have to prove he can co-exist on the court with Govan for long stretches of the game. Not certain he is at that point.
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Post by blueandgray on Sept 30, 2018 9:03:35 GMT -5
Just to clarify....when it comes to the NCAA, you can’t assume anything. That said, there is some hope that he plays this year.
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Post by prhoya on Sept 30, 2018 9:49:27 GMT -5
Just to clarify....when it comes to the NCAA, you can’t assume anything. That said, there is some hope that he plays this year. Holding off my starting roster and minutes per game predictions until further notice of a finalized roster... SJU is in the same position.
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Post by prhoya on Sept 30, 2018 10:31:19 GMT -5
Don't see how Yurt playing this season would boost his prospects through improved play. For him to get the most minutes he needs he would have to prove he can co-exist on the court with Govan for long stretches of the game. Not certain he is at that point. I like the idea of the two playing together. Looking at some stats, Omer shot 50% on 44 3’s his last playing year. He instantly becomes the best 3-pt shooter on the team. Imagine Omer pulling an opposing big out to the perimeter thus allowing Jessie to go 1-on-1 down low, or opening the lanes for Mackinjo drives. Of course, the roles could be reversed with Jessie (last year 35% on 46 3A’s), maybe the 3rd/4th best 3-pt shooter, on the perimeter and Omer inside. On defense, they can interchange just like Jessie did with Marcus. That said, I also like the idea of Trey, Antwan and Josh mixing it with those two. Definitely plenty of different looks...
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Post by LCPolo18 on Sept 30, 2018 12:34:58 GMT -5
Well yesterday or the day before we saw footage of him being filmed for his video spot for the players' introduction. When I saw that I thought that such a thing should be unnecessary for a guy not suiting up this season. Last year Malinowski was in all of the promo videos and photoshoots, so I don’t think this says anything about Yurtseven.
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Post by practice on Sept 30, 2018 12:49:53 GMT -5
I had given up hope until I read that profile ... it sounds like he left NC not just for basketball but because perhaps the area -- not necessarily the university or team -- wasn't too welcoming to Muslims. There's an awful lot about his faith and the DC community. Maybe that could be the basis of a hardship ... That being said, from a team perspective, I'm not sure it's better that he plays or sits this season.
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Post by prhoya on Sept 30, 2018 12:57:19 GMT -5
I had given up hope until I read that profile ... it sounds like he left NC not just for basketball but because perhaps the area -- not necessarily the university or team -- wasn't too welcoming to Muslims. There's an awful lot about his faith and the DC community. Maybe that could be the basis of a hardship ... That being said, from a team perspective, I'm not sure it's better that he plays or sits this season. We need to win and win now. He has tools that we need now. Winning more games and getting to the NCAA T. will lead to winning recruiting battles. As to the NCAA's timing, here's a bit from the SJU/Heron article: The NCAA is not permitted to comment on the situation until a decision is rendered, but an NCAA source said, “It’s that time of year, so a decision should be imminent.”
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Post by drquigley on Sept 30, 2018 15:55:15 GMT -5
Don't see how Yurt playing this season would boost his prospects through improved play. For him to get the most minutes he needs he would have to prove he can co-exist on the court with Govan for long stretches of the game. Not certain he is at that point. I like the idea of the two playing together. Looking at some stats, Omer shot 50% on 44 3’s his last playing year. He instantly becomes the best 3-pt shooter on the team. Imagine Omer pulling an opposing big out to the perimeter thus allowing Jessie to go 1-on-1 down low, or opening the lanes for Mackinjo drives. Of course, the roles could be reversed with Jessie (last year 35% on 46 3A’s), maybe the 3rd/4th best 3-pt shooter, on the perimeter and Omer inside. On defense, they can interchange just like Jessie did with Marcus. That said, I also like the idea of Trey, Antwan and Josh mixing it with those two. Definitely plenty of different looks... Hello. A big man who can shoot 3's? A big who can play away from the basket? What's not to like?
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Post by MCIGuy on Sept 30, 2018 17:18:55 GMT -5
Don't see how Yurt playing this season would boost his prospects through improved play. For him to get the most minutes he needs he would have to prove he can co-exist on the court with Govan for long stretches of the game. Not certain he is at that point. I like the idea of the two playing together. Looking at some stats, Omer shot 50% on 44 3’s his last playing year. He instantly becomes the best 3-pt shooter on the team. It doesn't automatically make him the best on the team. Look at Govan's 3-point shooting % his first two seasons. He didn't carry that over to his junior year. Same could happen to Yurt.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Sept 30, 2018 18:34:43 GMT -5
Love the idea of him and Govan playing together! Hope he can play this year. As a matter of fact, the more I think about it, that would certainly shake things up a lot, both in terms of the line up and BE play.
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Post by tashoya on Sept 30, 2018 20:47:03 GMT -5
The "sit a year" rule should be reevaluated regardless of what happens with Omer. There have to be other penalties that can be applied that don't cost guys a year of their lives. It's not as though they lose the year of eligibility.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Sept 30, 2018 21:43:15 GMT -5
There's definitely no guarantee Yurtseven's three point percentage would remain that high, but I think it's likely.
I do think it's weird that Govan's three point shooting went down so much. I do think, in part, it could reflect that for much of the season Govan was being used more down low/close to the basket. When you adjust for his increased playing time, Govan took a lot fewer threes last season. It's one of my hopes that he reverts back to shooting more threes, assuming he can get his percentage up. I think ultimately, that will make him valuable at the next level (and this level).
Govan took A LOT more twos last year and his shooting percentage was almost identical to the year before.
For what it's worth, Yurtseven was a much better shooter than Govan last year. Govan was 52.9% on twos, Yurtseven was 58.3%. On threes, Govan was 34.8% versus Yurtseven's 50%. Govan did shoot free throws better, though. There would definitely be a strong role for Yurtseven on this team if he's eligible.
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Post by prhoya on Sept 30, 2018 21:50:43 GMT -5
I like the idea of the two playing together. Looking at some stats, Omer shot 50% on 44 3’s his last playing year. He instantly becomes the best 3-pt shooter on the team. It doesn't automatically make him the best on the team. Look at Govan's 3-point shooting % his first two seasons. He didn't carry that over to his junior year. Same could happen to Yurt. Obviously, previous year’s percentage does not guarantee future percentage. But it is what we have and cannot be discarded. And yes, he would have the best percentage with plenty of reps. We don’t have another 40+% 3-shooter coming back.
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Post by professorhoya on Oct 1, 2018 3:44:15 GMT -5
Don't be surprised in this kid is eligible to play sooner than later. This could explain why we are loading up on big men for 2019-2020.
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Post by dchoya72 on Oct 2, 2018 10:21:41 GMT -5
Is the cultural bias of an area (school community) against a student's ethnicity or religious practices grounds for an exemption from sitting out a year for a transfer? Does the NCAA take this into consideration? Does anyone know?
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Oct 2, 2018 11:02:05 GMT -5
Is the cultural bias of an area (school community) against a student's ethnicity or religious practices grounds for an exemption from sitting out a year for a transfer? Does the NCAA take this into consideration? Does anyone know? I don't know the answer, but this seems like a real stretch to me...But stranger things have happened in NCAA-land.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Oct 2, 2018 11:53:22 GMT -5
Nobody knows what the NCAA takes into consideration.
Including the NCAA.
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Post by dchoya72 on Oct 2, 2018 13:52:10 GMT -5
OK
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Post by Elvado on Oct 2, 2018 14:52:12 GMT -5
Is the cultural bias of an area (school community) against a student's ethnicity or religious practices grounds for an exemption from sitting out a year for a transfer? Does the NCAA take this into consideration? Does anyone know? I don't know the answer, but this seems like a real stretch to me...But stranger things have happened in NCAA-land. It’s a better readon than Josh Smith had. Cultural hostility versus fat shaming ?
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Post by tashoya on Oct 2, 2018 20:33:23 GMT -5
Nobody knows what the NCAA takes into consideration. Including the NCAA. So true, Frazier. So true.
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