MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Oct 20, 2020 12:52:40 GMT -5
Fortunately the team already has a lot of experience of playing without McClung.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2020 13:13:56 GMT -5
We just see the game differently. This was the game that proved how flawed the hard hedge was as a defense imo. It forces a 3rd defender to be involved to help tag the roller and leaves 3 point shots. The end result was either a dunk or a 3, which is ironic given the thread on midrange shots we're having. This defense yields the most efficient shots an offense could want. 20 second mark: Yurt effectively hedges and forces the guard to dribble away from the basket. Pass over the top, the help was late and Gil dunks. What do you want Yurt to do there? His job is to stop the ball handler, he can't block the pass while recovering simultaneously, there has to be help from the weakside. 40 second mark: Yurt effectively hedges and forces the guard to dribble away from the basket. Allen correctly helps to avoid the dunk that occurred on the other play. End result? Skip pass to Allen's man for an open 3 bc he can't recover in time 50 second mark: Pickett effectively hedges but it's a pick and pop and there's nobody who can help on the weak side. Wide open 3 2 min mark: This one is questionable and probably on Yurt7. The screen is going away from middle but Yurt7 stays high in preparation to hard hedge. When the guard rejects / dribbles middle he's out of position for the roll from Gil. This is one of the risks of hard hedging, big man is exposed to slipping the screen. This was a VERY delayed slip so would put some of it on Yurt but it's because he's out there so far to anticipate a hedge 2:15 mark: Q does EXACTLY the same thing Yurt does at the 40 second mark. Effective hedge, guard tags the roller to help, result is wide open wing 3. Doesn't matter whether Yurt7 or Q, same result. All the highlights in the 2nd half are when Yurt7 is not hedging, it was the only time this year the coaching staff aborted the hedge, because it was simply abused to no end in the first half. The first SH game is always brought up, for some reason the 2nd one never is. 19 and 15 against Gil. www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=401168400I completely agree with everything said here. Just to add, I remember Myles Cale had a really good game here because he was open on every play with Allen helping down. Them putting Allen in the helper spot made this much more difficult since he's so much smaller than Gill and would have to fully commit and either get a steal or poke at Gill enough to let Yurt fully recover, and in that time if Gill could turn around he had two points. Seton hall spaced the floor really well this game and attacked the hedge relentlessly. I hate the hard hedge and really hope Ewing realizes how often it was exposed and lets it go, or at least either changes how we want to rotate on the weak side and uses it much less often. Also, to not drag up this thread too much, I completely agree that we are going to miss Mac so much more than we realize. His ability to create shots for himself and others was so vital to our teams success in that 6 game stretch. Carey is probably our best creator now, and he's not the creator Mac is. Hopefully either Pickett or Blair really improved in this department, or Dante steps in and just gets buckets (which if he can from the level he was playin at, oh man that's a steal), but I'm not too sure. And I know that this is an Omer Yurt thread but guys just imagine where we would be if the old gang had hung around. We wouldn't be so critical of Ewing if we had Akinjo, Mac, Yurt, Myron, Leblanc and Galen on the team now because I believe we would have been ranked near the top of the Big East pre-season rankings. In you guys honest opinion, where do you think we would be in the pre-season pick in the conference had we had Akinjo, Mac and Leblanc rolling into their junior year? Like Mac, Akinjo was a beast and I believe he would have been much more mature and counted on more for scoring and his on ball d. Leblanc was the man on D and Yurt would have better as well and we would have Q, Blair on the team. Where do you guys think we would have been ranked in the Big East pre-season had these guys stayed with the team?
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saxagael
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Post by saxagael on Nov 18, 2020 14:12:21 GMT -5
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Post by bostonfan on Nov 18, 2020 15:38:43 GMT -5
Interesting. The last NBAdraft.net mock draft had him still going in the 2nd round. I think that got updated/published yesterday. If he is still in the draft, I hope he hears his name called tonight. Always good to see a Hoya get drafted.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 18:18:54 GMT -5
A very good article of Yurt speaking positively and almost glowingly of coach Ewing and what Ewing taught him. This should help his cause to making the NBA. He mentions that he sacrifice for the team concept in spite of the fact that he believes he could have shown his other skills (primarily three point shooting). I think the fact that he mentions that he is a team player and he is willingly to do what is needed for the team is a good thing. Yurt is a very good shooter, that he's got going for him. He'll just need to be quicker with his feet so that he can defend quicker players. Here is the article: www.casualhoya.com/2020/11/18/21573632/nba-draft-omer-yurtseven-georgetown-center-patrick-ewing-signing-big-east-7-foot-memphis-charlotte
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LCPolo18
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Post by LCPolo18 on Nov 18, 2020 20:59:00 GMT -5
The asterisk was an error and it has been corrected.
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Post by greyhoundalum on Nov 19, 2020 7:38:43 GMT -5
Could he come back to Gtown?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 19, 2020 8:41:00 GMT -5
He stayed in the draft, so no.
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Post by bostonfan on Nov 19, 2020 9:07:50 GMT -5
Could he come back to Gtown? Decent chance he signs with someone as an undrafted free agent and ends up in the G League, or finds a good financial deal and goes over to Europe. I wish he had go drafted, for him and for the program, but his basketball career is not over, he will start making money playing the game very soon.
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 19, 2020 9:31:23 GMT -5
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DudeSlade
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Post by DudeSlade on Nov 19, 2020 11:40:27 GMT -5
I have to think this is a decent landing spot for him, as the Thunder are in full rebuild mode and would seem to be willing to try a bunch of stuff to see what becomes part of the future. Plus they play a real center in Stephen Adams - and now have Al Horford but who knows if that lasts very long with what they’ve been doing. An Exhibit 10 contract also seems to show they’ll give him a real chance. Hope so. Would love to start getting some Hoyas back into the league.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2020 12:09:06 GMT -5
I just watched Yurt on a recent Youtube video practicing with some NBA prospects. I have to say, Yurt has got to get some energy if he wants to play in the NBA. Like I said before he can shoot but he needs to look alive and act like he's enthusiastic about being on the court. He also needs to give much better effort on the defense side of the ball. C'mon Yurt this is your chance my man. Don't let yourself down and give it all you got. Show some energy and enthusiasm!!
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Post by hoyainla on Nov 19, 2020 15:00:55 GMT -5
Getting an exhibit 10 instead of a two-way means he isn't really considered that high value. If he impresses he could still get a two-way which would be great for him. I think he now realizes he should've declared a few years ago.
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Post by paranoia2 on Nov 19, 2020 23:08:54 GMT -5
He is SOFT. Will be a pro but most likely not in the NBA.
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 21, 2020 10:07:41 GMT -5
So much for learning under Steven Adams
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DudeSlade
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Post by DudeSlade on Nov 21, 2020 11:10:10 GMT -5
So much for learning under Steven Adams Maybe opens up more of an opportunity to make the team? Who knows what the Thunder will look like when this is done.
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Post by saxagael on Nov 21, 2020 11:52:18 GMT -5
Before the Adams trade OKC had 6 centers on their roster, including the 10 day that Yurtseven had. Now Poirier, Muscala, and Noel (if stays)as vets and DeVon Hardin (2nd round pick) ahead of Yurtseven. This doesn't include Aleksej Pokusevski (1st round pick) who is likely to stay in Europe another year.
Yurtseven's game is close to Poirier's game, but not the physical center that Muscala can be.
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Post by jpj on Nov 22, 2020 14:38:48 GMT -5
He is SOFT. Will be a pro but most likely not in the NBA. This is a sad statement. But I believe it to be 100% true. I wish he would have stayed in college - as bot he would be a better player as well as the Georgetown team (IMO). But given the turmoil of last year's team, I can understand. Especially when he was in the midst of his hot streak and thought he could extend that to the next level. At best I hope he can be the last man on an NBA Roster making $1M/per year for the next 15-20 years.
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Post by hoyainla on Nov 22, 2020 15:11:32 GMT -5
Getting an exhibit 10 instead of a two-way means he isn't really considered that high value. If he impresses he could still get a two-way which would be great for him. I think he now realizes he should've declared a few years ago. Oh how a few days change things. 4 days ago it looked like Yurt had little chance to get to NBA this year. Today I would say he is likely to based on the OKC roster. I think they only have 3 centers 1 of which who likely isn't coming to the NBA this year. making the NBA is more luck than anything when you are a fringe guy and Yurt got lucky here. This OKC team is in full tank mode. That is how Henry got his NBA chance. If I was Jessie I would be on a plane to OKC. They need any big bodies they can get at this point.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Dec 7, 2020 19:56:08 GMT -5
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