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Post by njhoya78 on Oct 30, 2020 15:22:06 GMT -5
Who is this Mac McClung of whom you write?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 17:02:14 GMT -5
We are going to miss Mac. I hope he comes back fully from his injuries and show the world the Mac we witness at Georgetown. However, I don't kmow how the transfer to Tech is going to help his NBA chances. He should have transferred to an HBCU where he would have gotten a starting point guard position. Or he should have went to Georgia Tech or some other school where it would be all about him and he could have gotten the point guard position uncontested. Too many guards at Texas Tech. Good luck Mac. Mac has enough talent to start on a top 20 team. Beard's teams require defense, so the fit may be odd but if he steps it up on that end, he made an excellent move. He can start at Tech. And GT has two good guards in Alvarado and Devoe so his starting spot wouldn't be guaranteed there either, though I see what you mean. But Mac is good enough to be the guy during our main stretch of success, so he's good enough to start on one of these good teams. For someone like Nojel Eastern, who wants the offense to be more centered on him and wants to show off his playmaking (but was not a good offensive player at Purdue) the move to Howard really help. He's the complete opposite of Mac and since he wants to show off his offensive capabilities (Eastern is an elite defender, but terrible offensively so he might even be a net negative on the floor) and I think Mac is a better overall player so in that case I agree, but I just think Mac's talent level is high enough to where this move can make sense. Good analysis and great points! My question is though, do you think Mac is going to be the starting point guard and completely take on the quarterback role instead of the reciever's role so to speak? Do you understand my question? I mean if the NBA told him he's got to play the point guard role, he can't find himself playing second fiddle at the point guard spot at Tech. He damn sure can't be just the scorer like he was with us if the NBA is telling him they want to see him more at point guard. Do you understand what I am saying?
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Post by MCIGuy on Oct 30, 2020 17:32:18 GMT -5
It was always obvious that Mac would have to play point guard in the NBA. But that didn't mean he had to play that position full time or most of the time in college. Look at someone like Westbrook who didn't play much pg at UCLA. Granted there is a talent discrepancy between the two. By the way what is Mac's wingspan because that could possibly be his greatest detriment in terms of getting to the next leve!.
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Post by EtomicB on Oct 30, 2020 17:39:34 GMT -5
Not looking to get into a Mac decision. Posting because there were questions last year about whether Georgetown was cooperating with transfer waivers. I still think it's crazy that former schools are involved in this process, with that being said I'm glad Gtown took the high road this time..
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Post by mdtd on Oct 30, 2020 17:48:28 GMT -5
Mac has enough talent to start on a top 20 team. Beard's teams require defense, so the fit may be odd but if he steps it up on that end, he made an excellent move. He can start at Tech. And GT has two good guards in Alvarado and Devoe so his starting spot wouldn't be guaranteed there either, though I see what you mean. But Mac is good enough to be the guy during our main stretch of success, so he's good enough to start on one of these good teams. For someone like Nojel Eastern, who wants the offense to be more centered on him and wants to show off his playmaking (but was not a good offensive player at Purdue) the move to Howard really help. He's the complete opposite of Mac and since he wants to show off his offensive capabilities (Eastern is an elite defender, but terrible offensively so he might even be a net negative on the floor) and I think Mac is a better overall player so in that case I agree, but I just think Mac's talent level is high enough to where this move can make sense. Good analysis and great points! My question is though, do you think Mac is going to be the starting point guard and completely take on the quarterback role instead of the reciever's role so to speak? Do you understand my question? I mean if the NBA told him he's got to play the point guard role, he can't find himself playing second fiddle at the point guard spot at Tech. He damn sure can't be just the scorer like he was with us if the NBA is telling him they want to see him more at point guard. Do you understand what I am saying? I'm pretty sure I know what you are saying and that's a very good question. That's something else I'm wondering about how Beard uses him. Because that team had a ton of talent without Mac, so with him they just have even more. I'd personally think it's going to be an adjustment based on what he had in high school and what he had later on in his Hoya career, but I think Beard would be one of the best coaches to get him to buy in to playing more of the receiver role. It's something to watch for sure and something I'd like to see develop. I'm not sure Beard would play him a ton if he didn't at least partially embrace that role, though. Only time will tell really.
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Post by Elvado on Oct 30, 2020 17:50:46 GMT -5
Who is this Mac McClung of whom you write? Great question. No one who means squat to Georgetown by that name...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 19:36:36 GMT -5
Good analysis and great points! My question is though, do you think Mac is going to be the starting point guard and completely take on the quarterback role instead of the reciever's role so to speak? Do you understand my question? I mean if the NBA told him he's got to play the point guard role, he can't find himself playing second fiddle at the point guard spot at Tech. He damn sure can't be just the scorer like he was with us if the NBA is telling him they want to see him more at point guard. Do you understand what I am saying? I'm pretty sure I know what you are saying and that's a very good question. That's something else I'm wondering about how Beard uses him. Because that team had a ton of talent without Mac, so with him they just have even more. I'd personally think it's going to be an adjustment based on what he had in high school and what he had later on in his Hoya career, but I think Beard would be one of the best coaches to get him to buy in to playing more of the receiver role. It's something to watch for sure and something I'd like to see develop. I'm not sure Beard would play him a ton if he didn't at least partially embrace that role, though. Only time will tell really. Wow! If what you're saying is true about Mac playing the reciever role and not the quarterback role then what was the reason for his transfer??? He had that at Georgetown and on a greater scale. If Beard doesn't allow Mac to handle the rock and call the plays, it is going to cause problems for Mac, I would think. Yeah, it is going to be very interesting to see how they utilize him. I hope we get to see some games here in the DC area.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Oct 30, 2020 23:40:52 GMT -5
At this point, the NCAA might as well just make the transfer process a no sit out situation because they grant every waiver. The idea that there are kids who have had their waivers denied and people like Tate Martell and Mac McClung get their waivers granted is insane.
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Post by mdtd on Oct 31, 2020 0:51:54 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure I know what you are saying and that's a very good question. That's something else I'm wondering about how Beard uses him. Because that team had a ton of talent without Mac, so with him they just have even more. I'd personally think it's going to be an adjustment based on what he had in high school and what he had later on in his Hoya career, but I think Beard would be one of the best coaches to get him to buy in to playing more of the receiver role. It's something to watch for sure and something I'd like to see develop. I'm not sure Beard would play him a ton if he didn't at least partially embrace that role, though. Only time will tell really. Wow! If what you're saying is true about Mac playing the reciever role and not the quarterback role then what was the reason for his transfer??? He had that at Georgetown and on a greater scale. If Beard doesn't allow Mac to handle the rock and call the plays, it is going to cause problems for Mac, I would think. Yeah, it is going to be very interesting to see how they utilize him. I hope we get to see some games here in the DC area. I phrased it wrong in my last post, that's on me. I think Beard will try to get him to buy in to being more of a distributor (quarterback, for some reason I said receiver)) and not being solely a shot taker and shot maker like he was for most of his career here, and I think Beard develops talent better (defense mainly), so I understand his reasoning from that POV. There's probably something behind the scenes with either just how much he liked campus, or something with the injury that contributed potentially, but that we may never know. So, that's on me. But yeah, I'm excited to see how Beard uses Mac and will be watching to see how Mac looks.
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Post by cas92 on Oct 31, 2020 8:51:12 GMT -5
Wow! If what you're saying is true about Mac playing the reciever role and not the quarterback role then what was the reason for his transfer??? He had that at Georgetown and on a greater scale. If Beard doesn't allow Mac to handle the rock and call the plays, it is going to cause problems for Mac, I would think. Yeah, it is going to be very interesting to see how they utilize him. I hope we get to see some games here in the DC area. I phrased it wrong in my last post, that's on me. I think Beard will try to get him to buy in to being more of a distributor (quarterback, for some reason I said receiver)) and not being solely a shot taker and shot maker like he was for most of his career here, and I think Beard develops talent better (defense mainly), so I understand his reasoning from that POV. There's probably something behind the scenes with either just how much he liked campus, or something with the injury that contributed potentially, but that we may never know. So, that's on me. But yeah, I'm excited to see how Beard uses Mac and will be watching to see how Mac looks. Somewhat unconvinced that McClung will be able to subscribe to a distributor's mentality by default - the habits he's ingrained over the years by being the sole focus in high school are likely to combat instinctively any conscientious efforts to become a pass first option. He's @ best a combo guard, but w/o the height friendly stature to ensure active/heightened interest from the NBA.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 13:52:13 GMT -5
We are going to miss Mac. I hope he comes back fully from his injuries and show the world the Mac we witness at Georgetown. However, I don't kmow how the transfer to Tech is going to help his NBA chances. He should have transferred to an HBCU where he would have gotten a starting point guard position. Or he should have went gone to Georgia Tech or some other school where it would be all about him and he could have gotten the point guard position uncontested. Too many guards at Texas Tech. Good luck Mac. I mean, best of luck to the kid, but DTM especially with the "family" on the way out the door. I guess Chris Beard's "fireside chats" are more on brand with the youth ...
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 25, 2020 23:12:57 GMT -5
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Post by Elvado on Nov 26, 2020 5:12:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2020 15:54:54 GMT -5
Haven't seen any of his games but watched some of his highlights. That dude doing the same thing he did when he was at Georgetown. He ain't no passer, he is just a scorer. Why in the hell did he leave then if he was supposed to pass the ball so that he can make it into the NBA draft? Man I am livid about him and Akinjo leaving on some b.s. Oh by the way, he's averaging 2 assist a game. Mac you're not making it into the NBA as a passer dude!!!! MOD NOTE: There is a McClung discussion thread here: hoyatalk2.proboards.com/post/771131/thread
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Post by rlo24 on Nov 27, 2020 23:02:22 GMT -5
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 27, 2020 23:04:07 GMT -5
McClung had 18 points in 20 minutes. 5-9 from two, 2-3 from three, and 1 turnover. I am confident Beard will get more out of McClung than Ewing would have, but I still miss having him on our team.
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Post by hoya9797 on Nov 27, 2020 23:19:02 GMT -5
Looks like good coaching works.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Nov 28, 2020 0:17:14 GMT -5
McClung had 18 points in 20 minutes. 5-9 from two, 2-3 from three, and 1 turnover. I am confident Beard will get more out of McClung than Ewing would have, but I still miss having him on our team. We will see what he does on Sunday against a good team. He was 6-9 including 2-4 from three in our first game last year.
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Post by cgallstar02 on Nov 28, 2020 4:48:06 GMT -5
Haven't seen any of his games but watched some of his highlights. That dude doing the same thing he did when he was at Georgetown. He ain't no passer, he is just a scorer. Why in the hell did he leave then if he was supposed to pass the ball so that he can make it into the NBA draft? Man I am livid about him and Akinjo leaving on some b.s. Oh by the way, he's averaging 2 assist a game. Mac you're not making it into the NBA as a passer dude!!!! MOD NOTE: There is a McClung discussion thread here: hoyatalk2.proboards.com/post/771131/threadIf you watched his interview on the McCabe Podcast, he said playing PG had nothing to do with his decision to transfer. Also, all of his interviews in regards to feedback he got from NBA teams, the main thing he always said that he was told he needed to work on was his his shot selection and decision making. The fact that he chose Texas Tech over the other schools on his list I think backs that up. He picked the best school with the best coach of the ones on his list. If it was all about playing PG and still getting lots of shots, could've just picked Wake Forest or BYU or whatever. I think it's clear he wanted to go to a winning team with several potential future NBA players, and an elite coach that will help elevate his game. Having watched his first two games, a few things have stood out; he's taken 1 bad shot in 2 games. A step back 3 pointer early in the shot clock of the first game. Everything else has been in the flow of the offense. When he drives and nothing is there, instead of forcing a wild shot like before, he now kicks it out. In the game today he scored 10 pts on 4-4 in the first couple mins... the old Mac would've taken a couple deep contested 3's early in the shot clock as heat checks after a start like that. This Mac didn't shoot again for 4 or 5 minutes because there were no good looks that came his way. He's without a doubt the best scorer on his team. They have a lot of really good players, and guys that are good at a lot of different things, but it's plainly evident Mac is their best scorer. Beard seems to think so too. He's definitely the guy Beard is tasking with handling the ball in end of shotclock/end of half type situations. He'll most certainly be the main guy in end of game situations of tight ball games when those start happening. There was an interesting sequence of plays at the beginning of the 2nd half in the first game. The play to open the half was a set play alley-oop for Mac but the defender tipped the pass away before it got to Mac. A few plays later Terrence Shannon got a steal and fed Mac for a fast break dunk. A few plays after Micah Peavy missed a layup attempt and Mac followed it up with an offensive rebound dunk attempt but got fouled forcing him to miss the dunk. In other words he had 3 dunk attempts in about 3 minutes. He had 2 made dunks all of last season. It definitely feels like were gonna see a lot more dunks from Mac this year between Tech's D forcing turnovers and Beard calling set alley-oop plays for Mac in the half court. His defense looks a lot better. I think a lot of that has to do with playing with much better defenders and in a much better defensive system. On top of that, they've played their first 2 games without the guy who's regarded as their best defender (McCullar) Shannon is a stud on defense and McCullar actually took his starting spot last season and is supposedly much better on that end, so I can only imagine how much better the D will be when he gets back. The Texas Tech offense doesn't really have a true PG. Whichever ball handler is nearest to the ball brings its up the floor and initiates the offense. Even after opponents score a basket there doesn't seem to be a set guy to bring it up the floor. That said, Mac has definitely played more of a PG type role in the last 2 games than he ever did in his Georgetown career. So he's definitely getting some experience there. Also, for what it's worth he has 5 assists and 0 turnovers through the first 2 games. He also has had several nice hockey assists as well as nice passes that resulted in his teammate getting fouled. He's never going to be mistaken for Steve Nash, but he's showing improvement as a passer for sure. Beard's sub patterns are interesting but fun. Not sure how much it will change against real competition but so far he is subbing guys in and out at a rapid fire pace. First subs start coming in 2-3 minutes from the start of the game. Mac will often come out for 30-60 seconds, then come back in play 3-4 minutes, sub out for a minute or two and so on. And it's been like that with all the guys. So far I'm really liking this style. Guys are getting breathers but not sitting on the bench so long they get cold. Also this keeps guys from forcing the obligatory "I'm about to come out so let me just jack up a shot real quick" shot. Guys don't have to press and force stuff cus they know their coming right back in. It's only been two games and both were against subpar competition. I'm sure Mac will have his share of rough shooting nights throughout the year. Still, he looks to be a much improved player, mainly with his mindset. Even his best games at Georgetown he played undisciplined and took lots of bad shots, the difference was that his bad shots went in those nights. He appears to of made a really good choice with his school. Beard is an amazing coach, and Tech looks like they could make some noise in the tournament. Maybe he makes the NBA some day, maybe not, but Beard definitely seems to be someone who's going to give him the best possible chance.
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Post by prhoya on Nov 28, 2020 10:34:57 GMT -5
His defense looks a lot better. I think a lot of that has to do with playing with much better defenders and in a much better defensive system. On top of that, they've played their first 2 games without the guy who's regarded as their best defender (McCullar) Shannon is a stud on defense and McCullar actually took his starting spot last season and is supposedly much better on that end, so I can only imagine how much better the D... Great breakdown... what D does Beard use?
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