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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 12:39:27 GMT -5
Not really. Players improve and Mac was still improving and showing signs of growth in the back half of his season... Mac shot 34% and 22% from 3 in conference play this year. These numbers are both worse than his previous year's conference stats. Where was that showing signs of growth in the back half, conference, part of his season? Think the fact he was playing through injury the majority of the games he played in the conference season had an effect on those numbers. He shot 38.3% from 3 in the non conference. Players improve and I expect him to shoot it well. He shot 22% in the non conference the year before.
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Post by hoyainla on May 29, 2020 17:01:31 GMT -5
Mac shot 34% and 22% from 3 in conference play this year. These numbers are both worse than his previous year's conference stats. Where was that showing signs of growth in the back half, conference, part of his season? Think the fact he was playing through injury the majority of the games he played in the conference season had an effect on those numbers. He shot 38.3% from 3 in the non conference. Players improve and I expect him to shoot it well. He shot 22% in the non conference the year before. One of my lasting memories of the Mac era will be whenever he had bad games he was hurt. When he did well he was fine. No matter when those games where. It had nothing to do with the quality of opponent, game flow or just the fact that he is a super streaky player. For instance he got hot vs OSU and SMU and shot 9/17 from 3 but then followed that up with 5/18 in his next 4 before the eye injury. I guess we should just all figure he got hurt in the last minute of SMU and think about what could've been. Just like coming into this year many fantasized how he had turned it around late in the season and his numbers were so bad because of the awful start while ignoring in the last 7 games of last year he was 7/29 from 3. There was always hope for ole Mac. He was the potential savior after all. Maybe you know when he got hurt or how hurt but many do not thanks to our veil of secrecy. I do think he will try to use whatever the injury he had in his favor to throw us under the bus. He will be believed and get the same benefit of the doubt he got by many on here because he has a very powerful thing in his corner, celebrity, oh and lawyers don't hurt.
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Post by LCPolo18 on May 29, 2020 17:06:14 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 17:50:59 GMT -5
Think the fact he was playing through injury the majority of the games he played in the conference season had an effect on those numbers. He shot 38.3% from 3 in the non conference. Players improve and I expect him to shoot it well. He shot 22% in the non conference the year before. One of my lasting memories of the Mac era will be whenever he had bad games he was hurt. When he did well he was fine. No matter when those games where. It had nothing to do with the quality of opponent, game flow or just the fact that he is a super streaky player. For instance he got hot vs OSU and SMU and shot 9/17 from 3 but then followed that up with 5/18 in his next 4 before the eye injury. I guess we should just all figure he got hurt in the last minute of SMU and think about what could've been. Just like coming into this year many fantasized how he had turned it around late in the season and his numbers were so bad because of the awful start while ignoring in the last 7 games of last year he was 7/29 from 3. There was always hope for ole Mac. He was the potential savior after all. Maybe you know when he got hurt or how hurt but many do not thanks to our veil of secrecy. I do think he will try to use whatever the injury he had in his favor to throw us under the bus. He will be believed and get the same benefit of the doubt he got by many on here because he has a very powerful thing in his corner, celebrity, oh and lawyers don't hurt. Idk who you're referencing in that rant but either way is it fair to compare his numbers pre BE play? Isn't that an apples to apples comparison? In his first season he shot 22%. In his second he shot 38% against tougher comp. That would appear to show improvement.
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Post by hoyainla on May 29, 2020 18:42:04 GMT -5
One of my lasting memories of the Mac era will be whenever he had bad games he was hurt. When he did well he was fine. No matter when those games where. It had nothing to do with the quality of opponent, game flow or just the fact that he is a super streaky player. For instance he got hot vs OSU and SMU and shot 9/17 from 3 but then followed that up with 5/18 in his next 4 before the eye injury. I guess we should just all figure he got hurt in the last minute of SMU and think about what could've been. Just like coming into this year many fantasized how he had turned it around late in the season and his numbers were so bad because of the awful start while ignoring in the last 7 games of last year he was 7/29 from 3. There was always hope for ole Mac. He was the potential savior after all. Maybe you know when he got hurt or how hurt but many do not thanks to our veil of secrecy. I do think he will try to use whatever the injury he had in his favor to throw us under the bus. He will be believed and get the same benefit of the doubt he got by many on here because he has a very powerful thing in his corner, celebrity, oh and lawyers don't hurt. Idk who you're referencing in that rant but either way is it fair to compare his numbers pre BE play? Isn't that an apples to apples comparison? In his first season he shot 22%. In his second he shot 38% against tougher comp. That would appear to show improvement. No pre BE play the teams change which is the complete opposite of apples to apples. The apples to apples comparison is BE play since its the same teams. To be fair trying to say anything this year was apples to apples with last year based on all that went down is fairly useless. The point is he ends his career as a 39/30/80 overall and 38/29/75 in BE. His overall and FT % each year was as identical as you can expect in 2 seasons of basketball. He was amazingly consistent overall while being so inconsistent game to game. I think we know what he was and its safe to say no corner was turned.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 19:28:32 GMT -5
Idk who you're referencing in that rant but either way is it fair to compare his numbers pre BE play? Isn't that an apples to apples comparison? In his first season he shot 22%. In his second he shot 38% against tougher comp. That would appear to show improvement. No pre BE play the teams change which is the complete opposite of apples to apples. The apples to apples comparison is BE play since its the same teams. To be fair trying to say anything this year was apples to apples with last year based on all that went down is fairly useless. The point is he ends his career as a 39/30/80 overall and 38/29/75 in BE. His overall and FT % each year was as identical as you can expect in 2 seasons of basketball. He was amazingly consistent overall while being so inconsistent game to game. I think we know what he was and its safe to say no corner was turned. I don't think it's a stretch to say an eye injury could have effected those BE numbers. He shot the ball well previous to that. He was 16-36 against the HM teams we faced pre BE so it wasn't like he was feasting against the poor teams.
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Post by rlo24 on May 29, 2020 23:03:21 GMT -5
- this was post transfer announcement. I don't hear anything but respect for Ewing.
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Post by hoyainla on May 30, 2020 0:06:15 GMT -5
No pre BE play the teams change which is the complete opposite of apples to apples. The apples to apples comparison is BE play since its the same teams. To be fair trying to say anything this year was apples to apples with last year based on all that went down is fairly useless. The point is he ends his career as a 39/30/80 overall and 38/29/75 in BE. His overall and FT % each year was as identical as you can expect in 2 seasons of basketball. He was amazingly consistent overall while being so inconsistent game to game. I think we know what he was and its safe to say no corner was turned. I don't think it's a stretch to say an eye injury could have effected those BE numbers. He shot the ball well previous to that. He was 16-36 against the HM teams we faced pre BE so it wasn't like he was feasting against the poor teams. He shot 27.7% in the 4 games before the eye injury and 27.3 in the first 2 games back after the eye injury. He has never been a good shooter and you know that so I’m not sure why you are trying to bend over backwards to make it seem like he is. We have 2 years of data that as I mention is astonishingly consistent. You can make whatever excuses you want, and you sure won’t be the only one, but at the end of the day the numbers speak for themselves. He started out his Hoyas career shooting very poor and ended his Hoyas career very poor. There were ups and downs along the way but no corner was turned.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 0:43:20 GMT -5
I don't think it's a stretch to say an eye injury could have effected those BE numbers. He shot the ball well previous to that. He was 16-36 against the HM teams we faced pre BE so it wasn't like he was feasting against the poor teams. He shot 27.7% in the 4 games before the eye injury and 27.3 in the first 2 games back after the eye injury. He has never been a good shooter and you know that so I’m not sure why you are trying to bend over backwards to make it seem like he is. We have 2 years of data that as I mention is astonishingly consistent. You can make whatever excuses you want, and you sure won’t be the only one, but at the end of the day the numbers speak for themselves. He started out his Hoyas career shooting very poor and ended his Hoyas career very poor. There were ups and downs along the way but no corner was turned. Players can improve. He shot 38% before the injury. Why are you focused on those 4 games instead of looking at the total averages for all the games before that? That makes no sense at all. All I'm doing is being fair to him. You brought up his free throw percentage. Pre injury he was at 90% (45-50). After injury he shot 20% points under that. You can't say an increase in competition is the reason for that. Think that makes it clear something was off. It's kind of crazy not to think that a known injury could have been a contributing factor to that dramatic of a dropoff when evaluating a players performance.
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Post by DanMcQ on May 30, 2020 14:28:17 GMT -5
A corneal abrasion can be a 6 month healing process. Totally believable that it could have affected shooting (in)accuracy.
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Post by hoyainla on May 31, 2020 11:14:09 GMT -5
He shot 27.7% in the 4 games before the eye injury and 27.3 in the first 2 games back after the eye injury. He has never been a good shooter and you know that so I’m not sure why you are trying to bend over backwards to make it seem like he is. We have 2 years of data that as I mention is astonishingly consistent. You can make whatever excuses you want, and you sure won’t be the only one, but at the end of the day the numbers speak for themselves. He started out his Hoyas career shooting very poor and ended his Hoyas career very poor. There were ups and downs along the way but no corner was turned. Players can improve. He shot 38% before the injury. Why are you focused on those 4 games instead of looking at the total averages for all the games before that? That makes no sense at all. All I'm doing is being fair to him. You brought up his free throw percentage. Pre injury he was at 90% (45-50). After injury he shot 20% points under that. You can't say an increase in competition is the reason for that. Think that makes it clear something was off. It's kind of crazy not to think that a known injury could have been a contributing factor to that dramatic of a dropoff when evaluating a players performance. I don’t think anyone knows the extent of the injury that’s my point. I think there was a lot of false information spread around the injury. I think the injury was set up as a convenient excuse for him to use down the road if needed. People always believed it because they wanted to believe he was the savior. There I said it clearly for you. Now let’s see if he uses this injury down the road to his favor. Mac and his people are calculated. Everything he does has a purpose. That’s how influencers think. That is why he was so Editeded a Ton Ewing. He could control the info around whatever happened to him and make it as bad as needed to fit his narrative because he knew the Hoyas and their pathetic communication weren’t going to say anything. Just because he is a good kid and was well spoken people didn’t think he could be bad. A lot of people got their eyes opened by the farewell message but those were the same people that thought he was the savior. Me like everything else that eventually happened with Mac I just sat back and was like I tired to tell ya’ll. Now I’m sure you are going to come back with a calm down or some other crap like when I type a lot. It’s just exhausting having to explain everything as you defend players or not he team in general when I’m not even sure you believe what you are defending. I drop hints around here because I know things or at the very least have been around enough of these kids to understand them. If not I’ll hit them up or people I know around them and ask. You are close enough to the scene that I’m sure you do the same. The only difference between me and you is I’ll call stuff out whether it’s good or bad. You pretend like everything is OK and I’m guessing suppress your true feelings if it’s bad because it would make the team or the coaches look bad. Maybe you have a friend on staff that knows you post. Maybe you have a different angle. Maybe because you’ve made yourself a bit of a face for the fan base and you want everyone to like you. Whatever it is you keep doing you and I’ll keep doing me. We can keep playing this game if you want. Like most of the stuff on here I just laugh because I know what will eventually happen even if you think I’m mad. Trust me I’m not.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 11:56:49 GMT -5
Players can improve. He shot 38% before the injury. Why are you focused on those 4 games instead of looking at the total averages for all the games before that? That makes no sense at all. All I'm doing is being fair to him. You brought up his free throw percentage. Pre injury he was at 90% (45-50). After injury he shot 20% points under that. You can't say an increase in competition is the reason for that. Think that makes it clear something was off. It's kind of crazy not to think that a known injury could have been a contributing factor to that dramatic of a dropoff when evaluating a players performance. I don’t think anyone knows the extent of the injury that’s my point. I think there was a lot of false information spread around the injury. I think the injury was set up as a convenient excuse for him to use down the road if needed. People always believed it because they wanted to believe he was the savior. There I said it clearly for you. Now let’s see if he uses this injury down the road to his favor. Mac and his people are calculated. Everything he does has a purpose. That’s how influencers think. That is why he was so Editeded a Ton Ewing. He could control the info around whatever happened to him and make it as bad as needed to fit his narrative because he knew the Hoyas and their pathetic communication weren’t going to say anything. Just because he is a good kid and was well spoken people didn’t think he could be bad. A lot of people got their eyes opened by the farewell message but those were the same people that thought he was the savior. Me like everything else that eventually happened with Mac I just sat back and was like I tired to tell ya’ll. Now I’m sure you are going to come back with a calm down or some other crap like when I type a lot. It’s just exhausting having to explain everything as you defend players or not he team in general when I’m not even sure you believe what you are defending. I drop hints around here because I know things or at the very least have been around enough of these kids to understand them. If not I’ll hit them up or people I know around them and ask. You are close enough to the scene that I’m sure you do the same. The only difference between me and you is I’ll call stuff out whether it’s good or bad. You pretend like everything is OK and I’m guessing suppress your true feelings if it’s bad because it would make the team or the coaches look bad. Maybe you have a friend on staff that knows you post. Maybe you have a different angle. Maybe because you’ve made yourself a bit of a face for the fan base and you want everyone to like you. Whatever it is you keep doing you and I’ll keep doing me. We can keep playing this game if you want. Like most of the stuff on here I just laugh because I know what will eventually happen even if you think I’m mad. Trust me I’m not. No offense but why don't you just argue your points and leave the personal stuff alone. You don't know my character, my inner thoughts, or what my motivations are. I don't see what your feelings about me have to do with anything. Let's just talk basketball and keep it there. It's not that serious my bro. It's all love.
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Post by drob12 on Jun 8, 2020 15:15:59 GMT -5
Great minds Also "his Twitter page"
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Post by dchoya72 on Oct 30, 2020 14:02:45 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 14:24:23 GMT -5
We are going to miss Mac. I hope he comes back fully from his injuries and show the world the Mac we witness at Georgetown. However, I don't kmow how the transfer to Tech is going to help his NBA chances. He should have transferred to an HBCU where he would have gotten a starting point guard position. Or he should have went gone to Georgia Tech or some other school where it would be all about him and he could have gotten the point guard position uncontested. Too many guards at Texas Tech. Good luck Mac.
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Post by blueandgray on Oct 30, 2020 15:09:27 GMT -5
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Post by mdtd on Oct 30, 2020 15:10:13 GMT -5
We are going to miss Mac. I hope he comes back fully from his injuries and show the world the Mac we witness at Georgetown. However, I don't kmow how the transfer to Tech is going to help his NBA chances. He should have transferred to an HBCU where he would have gotten a starting point guard position. Or he should have went to Georgia Tech or some other school where it would be all about him and he could have gotten the point guard position uncontested. Too many guards at Texas Tech. Good luck Mac. Mac has enough talent to start on a top 20 team. Beard's teams require defense, so the fit may be odd but if he steps it up on that end, he made an excellent move. He can start at Tech. And GT has two good guards in Alvarado and Devoe so his starting spot wouldn't be guaranteed there either, though I see what you mean. But Mac is good enough to be the guy during our main stretch of success, so he's good enough to start on one of these good teams. For someone like Nojel Eastern, who wants the offense to be more centered on him and wants to show off his playmaking (but was not a good offensive player at Purdue) the move to Howard really help. He's the complete opposite of Mac and since he wants to show off his offensive capabilities (Eastern is an elite defender, but terrible offensively so he might even be a net negative on the floor) and I think Mac is a better overall player so in that case I agree, but I just think Mac's talent level is high enough to where this move can make sense.
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