hoyaroc
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Post by hoyaroc on Apr 16, 2020 21:15:13 GMT -5
Mac will not return to Georgetown. Much success to the young man.
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Post by gojeffgoroyunder7 on Apr 16, 2020 22:43:31 GMT -5
Mac will not return to Georgetown. Much success to the young man. We can assume that you've been told this by Mac or his family, yes? Because if not, stop -- it's ridiculous.
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hoyaroc
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Post by hoyaroc on Apr 17, 2020 0:02:32 GMT -5
Mac will not return to Georgetown. Much success to the young man. We can assume that you've been told this by Mac or his family, yes? Because if not, stop -- it's ridiculous. It’s my opinion. It’s ridiculous you can’t respect my opinion.
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Post by gojeffgoroyunder7 on Apr 17, 2020 7:58:11 GMT -5
We can assume that you've been told this by Mac or his family, yes? Because if not, stop -- it's ridiculous. It’s my opinion. It’s ridiculous you can’t respect my opinion. Then present it as an opinion — not a fact.
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Post by bostonfan on Apr 17, 2020 8:02:40 GMT -5
Mac will not return to Georgetown. Much success to the young man. Reading the article it outlines what most people on this board have said about Mac. He has a lot of potential but still needs to work on his game and improve some parts of his game if he wants to make an impact in the NBA. Is there a chance he gets a response from a NBA scout he likes and decides to stay in the draft? Sure there is. But more likely is he hears from the scouts about the areas he needs to work on and then hopefully decides to come back to Georgetown to make those improvements and lead the Hoyas next year, where he should have pretty free rein to showcase his skills.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Apr 17, 2020 8:21:08 GMT -5
From that write up it sounds like one more year for sure would help Mac. My guess is if he does come back, coaches should be planning on him being done after one more and you can't discount Qudus falling into that category as well. Kids are going to keep going early (when they shouldn't) and transferring if not so the coaches should have a full time "transfer" recruiter and then a high school recruiter. Keep it geographically tight until we start hitting on more higher ranked kids.
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 17, 2020 8:43:11 GMT -5
Mac will not return to Georgetown. Much success to the young man. You honestly confused me here. Very much reads like a statement of fact than just your opinion. I had to open up the article to understand that it was just your opinion....and even so, I was still unsure. Whatever.
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Post by rlo24 on Apr 17, 2020 8:59:37 GMT -5
I think it's looking more and more like the the Draft Combine is going to happen (even if they move it to a state that has reopened). That weekend could only help Mac. It's not going to take him from a sure fire pick to not drafted but could propel him to the point that a team takes a shot. If you recall his performances at all the Ballislife All-American Game and Allen Iverson Classic, he was the lowest rated guy and ended up being a starter in both games. He seems to step up to the competition in that sort of environment so expect him to do well at a combine. I think they invite him.
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Post by gatormcclusky on Apr 17, 2020 12:26:33 GMT -5
in my opinion Mac McClung is currently not ready for the NBA from a skills perspective. He hasn't showed nearly enough as a lead guard running a team, he hasn't been consistent enough as an outside shooter, and he needs improvement as a ballhandler, decision maker and defender. He's also got a bad habit of getting banged up halfway through the year and missing games.
from a strictly athletic perspective, though, he's a great NBA prospect. This kid is one of the best athletes in the Big East - he's not only an elite leaper, he's extremely fast and explosive with or without the ball in his hands and has outstanding balance, strength for his size, and body control. His only knock athletically is lateral movement defensively, but that's really more down to his footwork and fundamentals more than an actual quickness deficiency. I see people in this thread talking about he's a step slower than Jimmer Fredette (a well below average NBA athlete) or not as athletic as Steph Curry (a solid but not spectacular NBA athlete), and I wonder what those people think they've been watching for the last two years.
plus, the kid has shown a real desire to get better and measurable improvement from his FR to SO year. Put that together with his ultra-competitive nature and his athletic profile, and there are gonna be some teams that start to get more interested in him. Now, I doubt that he's polished enough right now for anyone to draft him, but I've been surprised by NBA draft decisions many times. They don't want to draft finished products - they want potential, and McClung still has a long way to go to hit his ceiling. Will he ever be an All Star? Probably not, but he can absolutely be a rotation player and contributor at the next level if he continues the upward trend he's shown over the last few years of his development, and I don't think it's unbelievable that somebody might decide to take that gamble and use a second round pick on him.
but I think the feedback he'll receive is that he'd be best served to come back to Georgetown, keep working on his shooting, his handle and his decision making, and prove that he can stay healthy for a full season and lead this team to some real success. I hope he comes back and does all of those things and then takes his shot at the league next year when he'll be a lot more likely to get serious consideration.
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Post by mdtd on Apr 17, 2020 14:59:22 GMT -5
I think it's looking more and more like the the Draft Combine is going to happen (even if they move it to a state that has reopened). That weekend could only help Mac. It's not going to take him from a sure fire pick to not drafted but could propel him to the point that a team takes a shot. If you recall his performances at all the Ballislife All-American Game and Allen Iverson Classic, he was the lowest rated guy and ended up being a starter in both games. He seems to step up to the competition in that sort of environment so expect him to do well at a combine. I think they invite him. I think that's the first problem though. Myles Powell wasn't invited last season and I think that Mac being invited is unlikely. I think he could perform well if he gets there, I just don't think he does. I think he'd be invited to the G-League Elite camp and would have to prove himself to get out of that and get an invite to the NBA combine. I'm not exactly sure how that camp works, though I know some guys get invited to one and then the NBA chooses a few to go to the NBA combine. gleague.nba.com/news/80-players-including-40-nba-g-league-players-expected-to-attend-nba-g-league-elite-mini-camp/This link explains some of what he G League camp is and shows some o the guys invited last year, for reference. Some were drafted in the second round and others returned to school. So, it's a wide variety of guys.
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Post by rlo24 on Apr 17, 2020 19:17:08 GMT -5
I think it's looking more and more like the the Draft Combine is going to happen (even if they move it to a state that has reopened). That weekend could only help Mac. It's not going to take him from a sure fire pick to not drafted but could propel him to the point that a team takes a shot. If you recall his performances at all the Ballislife All-American Game and Allen Iverson Classic, he was the lowest rated guy and ended up being a starter in both games. He seems to step up to the competition in that sort of environment so expect him to do well at a combine. I think they invite him. I think that's the first problem though. Myles Powell wasn't invited last season and I think that Mac being invited is unlikely. I think he could perform well if he gets there, I just don't think he does. I think he'd be invited to the G-League Elite camp and would have to prove himself to get out of that and get an invite to the NBA combine. I'm not exactly sure how that camp works, though I know some guys get invited to one and then the NBA chooses a few to go to the NBA combine. gleague.nba.com/news/80-players-including-40-nba-g-league-players-expected-to-attend-nba-g-league-elite-mini-camp/This link explains some of what he G League camp is and shows some o the guys invited last year, for reference. Some were drafted in the second round and others returned to school. So, it's a wide variety of guys. An invite to either is all he wants and may need
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Post by LCPolo18 on Apr 21, 2020 9:02:47 GMT -5
Great interview, and if you don't have a subscription I highly recommend it, especially for writers like Ben Standig ( lastmanstandig). Below is a little excerpt to give you an idea of how in depth Standig went and how forthright Mac's answers are.
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Post by prhoya on Apr 21, 2020 9:44:33 GMT -5
Great interview, and if you don't have a subscription I highly recommend it, especially for writers like Ben Standig ( lastmanstandig). Below is a little excerpt to give you an idea of how in depth Standig went and how forthright Mac's answers are. The timing sucks for his NBA aspirations. He’s still not 100% healthy. It is hard to see how an NBA GM takes a chance at him this year.
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Post by rhw485 on Apr 21, 2020 9:49:52 GMT -5
Mac really said everything you'd want to hear in terms of improving percentages and decision making. Working hard to get better every day.
Hope he returns but absolutely his right to pursue his dream if he thinks the best chance to do that is now.
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Post by Massholya on Apr 21, 2020 12:04:33 GMT -5
Mac really said everything you'd want to hear in terms of improving percentages and decision making. Working hard to get better every day. Hope he returns but absolutely his right to pursue his dream if he thinks the best chance to do that is now. Exactly right. Unfortunately it will be framed as a no win for Ewing. Will be portrayed as “wanted to leave” as opposed to went from a little recruited prospect to NBA prospect in 2 years - which in my opinion should be viewed as a major positive for the program especially on the recruiting front. If he stays, some will say Ewing didn’t prepare him properly and that is why he couldn’t get drafted.
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Post by njhoyalawya on Apr 21, 2020 12:54:04 GMT -5
Mac really said everything you'd want to hear in terms of improving percentages and decision making. Working hard to get better every day. Hope he returns but absolutely his right to pursue his dream if he thinks the best chance to do that is now. Exactly right. Unfortunately it will be framed as a no win for Ewing. Will be portrayed as “wanted to leave” as opposed to went from a little recruited prospect to NBA prospect in 2 years - which in my opinion should be viewed as a major positive for the program especially on the recruiting front. If he stays, some will say Ewing didn’t prepare him properly and that is why he couldn’t get drafted. Lots of players test the waters and then return. Think of those top players in our Big East conference alone, who tested the waters last year and then returned. Plus, Mac has been nothing but complementary of Coach, and Coach's efforts to get the best game out of him.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 21, 2020 14:17:19 GMT -5
Great interview, and if you don't have a subscription I highly recommend it, especially for writers like Ben Standig ( lastmanstandig). Below is a little excerpt to give you an idea of how in depth Standig went and how forthright Mac's answers are. The timing sucks for his NBA aspirations. He’s still not 100% healthy. It is hard to see how an NBA GM takes a chance at him this year. I think that’s exactly why he is tearing the waters. He knows there will be no combine or games so his foot won’t be in jeopardy, But he can go through the process and get critical feedback on where he needs to improve. And there’s not much else for him to do with all the COVID freetime.
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Post by TC on Apr 21, 2020 15:02:21 GMT -5
I don't like where this is headed.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Apr 21, 2020 15:21:49 GMT -5
I don't like where this is headed. I personally read this as he's not going to go to the G League or overseas just to play professionally, but he's willing to go to the G League if there's a specific development plan for him by an NBA team (like a two way contract or something). Essentially, if an NBA team really likes him long term then he's willing to spend time in the G League, but if he gets feedback on what he needs to work on in college he'll come back to Georgetown.
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Post by rlo24 on Apr 21, 2020 15:47:52 GMT -5
I don't like where this is headed. - Get PAID to develop somewhere that plays an NBA style .vs NBA caliber size/talent (at least a higher level than college).
- Get PAID to just work on your game full time .vs also going to school.
- Get PAID to have the time for NBA medical staff to treat your body.
- IF he has a hint of a team that would offer it, wouldn't you do it? Especially if the team actually thinks you'll be NBA ready in a year. Rather develop for a year under these conditions than in college (any college).
Another Note: It appears the NCAA is going to grant a 1 year wavier for players to transfer without penalty..not just graduate transfers. Would Mac consider that option if there is no NBA team that wants him in the G League?
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