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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 26, 2018 16:06:43 GMT -5
JTIII's Big East Record is only 69-62 (52%) 7 gms. above .500 JTIII’s New BE Overall record to date: 34-39 (46%) JTIII's New BE Reg. Season record to date: 32-37 (46%) The last 2 years record: 29-36 (44%), BE 13-26 (33%) No one's going to pay III $3.6 million a year for that record and without seeing NCAAT success on an annual basis. I think the Princeton offense label him hurts his viability and the NCAAT early exits too. Plus he got fired from a situation that seemed to be a job for life. Financially JTIII is set for life, but he would have to be willing to take a pay cut. [ ] Georgetown is an easy coaching situation, low pressure, make NIT's or NCAA's (you don't have to advance) every couple of years and you are okay. If Trey Mourning was not asking to transfer, Tremont Waters stays, LJ Peak stays, and students were not planning to March, JTIII would still be the head coach despite the last 4 years of his coaching record. TJI, you accurately point out JT3's record, but I think it's a little misleading too, because you essentially quote all the stats that can be stated in a negative way, and don't include anything about his record that would make him appealing to hiring universities (like all the high NCAA seeds, a Sweet 16 & Final Four - more than most coaches have). Unless you are a blueblood (and they aren't hiring JT3) any coach you hire is going to usually have either (a) some sort of risk, or (b) an imperfect record. The coaches that have awesome records with few blemishes are usually the coaches who either stay in their jobs or move up to the blueblood type jobs. I am not going to make the case for JT3 here, because that's not what this thread is about, but compared to many other coaches who have gotten strong job offers over the years, JT3 has a pretty good resume. Is the "good" part of his resume 2004-2013, and the most recent years the worst? Yes, and that certainly hurts, but I don't think it's enough to keep someone from giving him a chance. I would also argue that Georgetown is not an easy coaching situation. A job where you have to make the NCAA tournament and advance a fair number of years to avoid getting fired isn't low pressure. Another way to look at it - if the school is willing to fire the son of John Thompson Jr., should any coach really feel all that safe? Lastly, John Thompson III's biggest successes actually came when he was running more of a pure Princeton system. I know people have stuck to those talking points over the years, and JT3 did keep some of the Princeton principles, but if you look at a Georgetown game from 2007 compared to more recent years, it wasn't even close to the same system. You could argue that when JT3 wavered from that system he really got into trouble (not saying I fully buy that, but I think there's a credible argument to be had). My hunch is that if JT3 comes back as a coach, he very well might revert to what he knew best (perhaps with some modifications based on experience), particularly if he's forced to recruit a lower level of talent than he could get at Georgetown. I hope JT3 does coach again, only because I am curious to see how he would perform.
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Post by This Just In on Mar 26, 2018 16:07:36 GMT -5
JT3's still getting paid by Georgetown thru the 2019 season. When the money exploded in D1 college coaching contracts a provision was made standard to all new contracts that if a coach is fired with time left on the contract, those years would be voided if the coach went on to another job in college coaching. Within the last decade (2010 ish) the provision has included the NBA as well. It's away to prevent coaches from double dipping. So I'm sure JT3 is in no hurry to get into coaching as it would be hard for him to get the kind of money Georgetown is still paying him. Crean's contract either wasn't renewed at Indiana or had a year left. I can't remember off the top of my head. I didn't realize JT3 was being paid through 2019 - if so, then it really does make sense for him to be patient and possibly take time to relax and figure out what he wants to do. Keep in my JT3's family has no lived in the Washington DC area since at least mid-2004 - moving, taking kids out of school, etc. is a big step, especially when you are already making $3 million plus. I do think JT3 would get a pay cut (how much would depend on how desperate the hiring school was - for example, he'd probably get more out of Pittsburgh than most other schools since they are desperate to make a good hire), but I also think he would command a strong salary regardless, unless he drops down to a non-high major, and I don't think he will have to do that. Also, it's not entirely unheard of for coaches to take some time off. Look at Steve Lavin - he got hired by St. John's 8 years after he left UCLA, and had been out of the game in a coaching capacity for years. Ben Howland had a few seasons between UCLA and Mississippi State (though to be far, he had bigger problems causing his departure from UCLA than JT3). Also, keep in mind JT3 needs the right fit too. By all accounts, he ran a clean program at Georgetown, but from the FBI investigation, we know that's not the way a lot of other programs operate. In addition to other considerations, part of it could simply be waiting for a good fit, too. I do wonder, how many of those programs under FBI investigation you think would give JTIII a look if he was considering coming back?
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 26, 2018 16:10:10 GMT -5
I do wonder, how many of those programs under FBI investigation you think would give JTIII a look if he was considering coming back? Good question. I actually think a university that wanted to clean house and get clean would be a good fit, but I am not sure those types of institutions would actually do that. Of course, JT3 isn't the only clean coach out there, but I do think he has that reputation (and I think Ewing does, too, and will keep it with time), and I think it could work to the advantage of a school in trouble. I don't think Louisville is that school, though. They, at the very least, fashion themselves as a blue blood, and will be looking for a stronger hire than JT3.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Mar 26, 2018 17:12:41 GMT -5
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Post by the_way on Mar 26, 2018 17:42:03 GMT -5
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 26, 2018 21:09:07 GMT -5
Hard to turn down that job. A lot of pressure, but winning there makes you a superstar.
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Post by This Just In on Mar 26, 2018 21:35:06 GMT -5
JTIII's Big East Record is only 69-62 (52%) 7 gms. above .500 JTIII’s New BE Overall record to date: 34-39 (46%) JTIII's New BE Reg. Season record to date: 32-37 (46%) The last 2 years record: 29-36 (44%), BE 13-26 (33%) No one's going to pay III $3.6 million a year for that record and without seeing NCAAT success on an annual basis. I think the Princeton offense label him hurts his viability and the NCAAT early exits too. Plus he got fired from a situation that seemed to be a job for life. Financially JTIII is set for life, but he would have to be willing to take a pay cut. [ ] Georgetown is an easy coaching situation, low pressure, make NIT's or NCAA's (you don't have to advance) every couple of years and you are okay. If Trey Mourning was not asking to transfer, Tremont Waters stays, LJ Peak stays, and students were not planning to March, JTIII would still be the head coach despite the last 4 years of his coaching record. TJI, you accurately point out JT3's record, but I think it's a little misleading too, because you essentially quote all the stats that can be stated in a negative way, and don't include anything about his record that would make him appealing to hiring universities (like all the high NCAA seeds, a Sweet 16 & Final Four - more than most coaches have). Unless you are a blueblood (and they aren't hiring JT3) any coach you hire is going to usually have either (a) some sort of risk, or (b) an imperfect record. The coaches that have awesome records with few blemishes are usually the coaches who either stay in their jobs or move up to the blueblood type jobs. I am not going to make the case for JT3 here, because that's not what this thread is about, but compared to many other coaches who have gotten strong job offers over the years, JT3 has a pretty good resume. Is the "good" part of his resume 2004-2013, and the most recent years the worst? Yes, and that certainly hurts, but I don't think it's enough to keep someone from giving him a chance. I would also argue that Georgetown is not an easy coaching situation. A job where you have to make the NCAA tournament and advance a fair number of years to avoid getting fired isn't low pressure. Another way to look at it - if the school is willing to fire the son of John Thompson Jr., should any coach really feel all that safe? Lastly, John Thompson III's biggest successes actually came when he was running more of a pure Princeton system. I know people have stuck to those talking points over the years, and JT3 did keep some of the Princeton principles, but if you look at a Georgetown game from 2007 compared to more recent years, it wasn't even close to the same system. You could argue that when JT3 wavered from that system he really got into trouble (not saying I fully buy that, but I think there's a credible argument to be had). My hunch is that if JT3 comes back as a coach, he very well might revert to what he knew best (perhaps with some modifications based on experience), particularly if he's forced to recruit a lower level of talent than he could get at Georgetown. I hope JT3 does coach again, only because I am curious to see how he would perform. I did not have time earlier, so I wanted to come back to discuss this further. The question asked was why is JTIII not in any coaching discussions. My feeling is that even though III is commentating, feelers are not being sent out ala Bruce Pearl and Steven Lavin when they were commentators for ESPN. The reason I ignore the Sweet 16 and Final 4 is that these are not factors as to why III got removed in addition to how many years ago they occurred. If you are a school looking to hire a coach, you look at the coach's most recent record. This is the main reason as to why Moser is going to be a hot hire. I have a theory as to what happened with III, in contrast to the belief that the "Freedom of movement rule" is what did him in. My theory is that the league shrunk to only 10 teams which means you can see coach's tendencies and what they don't do well more often. Coach's who can make the better in game adjustments will have the upper hand in leagues where coach's see each other 2x's a year And I think III's NBE record backs the theory and thus the dramatic change in record from the OBE to the NBE I don't know who on this board would advocate that III is a good in game adjuster, Most would say III adjusts well from game to game but not with in game adjustments. We can all agree that JTIII had not advanced in the NIT or the NCAA and his job was not in jeopardy Also I mentioned make the NIT's or NCAA's every couple of years (you don't have to advance). We disagree, this is not pressure. If JTIII would have made the NIT's last year then the spin would have been the team improved from the previous season and there is justification for bringing him back and his resume of the last 4 years includes 2 NIT's 1 NCAA, (not 1 NCAA, 1 NIT & back to back losing seasons). Just look at what happens if you change 2017 to an NIT 2014-NIT 2015-NCAA 2016-No bid 2017-NIT You have 1 NCAA and 2 NIT's in a 4 year period, JTIII is not getting fired at Georgetown with that resume. Even with the other stuff happening, the perspection could still be held that the program is headed in the right direction You laid out what makes III viable in contrast to my post of why III's name is not coming up. Do you have a theory as to why JTIII's name is not coming up in head coaching discussions?
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Mar 26, 2018 21:50:33 GMT -5
I hope that Mack and his staff got at least an 8 year deal because who knows what's coming down the pipe from the Feds. It's not the NCAA investigating Louisville, and the NCAA will just have to sit back as the FBI and it's subpoena power that will do the heavy lifting on a program already on probation.
To me this is simply a money grab as he proved you can win at a high level at Xavier. The last 3-4 years Xavier's had better overall seasons than Louisville. I thought it was shameless how Mack would put himself out there with the help of his pimp Goodman every year for the open jobs at other high majors even though his alma mater stepped up and continued to give him more and more money. I don't mind him going to his administration and getting them to pay as to close to his worth as possible. He earned the bump in salary. I think he could have done it quietly out of respect for Xavier. What bothers me is this is his alma mater he was doing this to on a yearly basis.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Mar 27, 2018 0:40:12 GMT -5
JT3's still getting paid by Georgetown thru the 2019 season. When the money exploded in D1 college coaching contracts a provision was made standard to all new contracts that if a coach is fired with time left on the contract, those years would be voided if the coach went on to another job in college coaching. Within the last decade (2010 ish) the provision has included the NBA as well. It's away to prevent coaches from double dipping. So I'm sure JT3 is in no hurry to get into coaching as it would be hard for him to get the kind of money Georgetown is still paying him. Crean's contract either wasn't renewed at Indiana or had a year left. I can't remember off the top of my head. I haven't seen JT3's departing terms disclosed publicly, but most high-major college basketball and football coaching contracts have buyout provisions that include offset terms in the event of a new coaching job, not a voiding of the payout. Lovie Smith's contract at Illinois even stipulates that if he's fired he has to make reasonable efforts to seek coaching employment in order to receive buyout payments. Other deals, like Tubby Smith's at Memphis, have no offset language, so Tubby gets to keep all of his buyout money on top of whatever High Point wants to pay him. Kevin Sumlin also had no offset language, so he gets all of the A&M money as well as the Arizona money. It all depends on the deal, and terms can be renegotiated on exit to tweak the payout structure for the university or liberalize the offset details. So if JT3 wants to coach next season or the year after, he'll be able to. I just wonder where he lands (low Power-5 job? AAC? A10?). This year's vacancies don't have any obvious fits, so he might have to wait until next year. College football contracts are typically pretty different from college has contracts. Power 5 football coaches have way more negotiating power and flexibility in their contracts than college basketball coaches do. Without seeing Coach Tubby Smith's contract with Memphis, I would surmise that he's able to get a new job at his alma mater High Point without forfeiting his money from Memphis because he was dismissed very early in the contract. He only completed 2 years of his 5 year deal at Memphis. If Memphis did include what I call the double dip provision, it could have been negotiated to become activate after a specific number of years completed (my guess is 3) in the deal as a sign of good faith that he will be given a sincere chance to be successful or be free to move on. It could also have activated if he got another job at a Power 6 school and since Coach Smith choose a mid major program, he's able to get his full payout from Memphis but I doubt that this is the case and tend to believe that he's able to get another job and get his money from Memphis because he only completed 2 of the 5 years on his contract. All these points are negotiable.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 27, 2018 6:21:17 GMT -5
JT3's still getting paid by Georgetown thru the 2019 season. When the money exploded in D1 college coaching contracts a provision was made standard to all new contracts that if a coach is fired with time left on the contract, those years would be voided if the coach went on to another job in college coaching. Within the last decade (2010 ish) the provision has included the NBA as well. It's away to prevent coaches from double dipping. It's very speculative to assume anything what is in a contract at Georgetown. You will sooner see Donald Trump's tax return than a Georgetown basketball contract, and while the contracts of a Roy Williams or a Tom Izzo are freely available on the Internet (thanks to FOIA requests by local newspapers), such is not the case at private universities. While Thompson's 2017 compensation will eventually be disclosed by the University in financial statements noting highly compensated employees, it's entirely possible the terms were favorable, given the warm relationship between the parties and whether the 2013 renewal was an addendum to the 2007 contract (written during the best of times) or a new document in 2013 (also in good times). Much like Craig Esherick, Thompson wasn't giving serious consideration to being fired in the next four years and neither was Georgetown. The wording for termination without cause (read= no NCAA violations involved) may well have been favorable. There's a much different discussion if Thompson was, and Ewing is, overpaid. The figures out there in the 2017 coaching search placed the Georgetown job among the top 10 basketball salaries in the nation and the results certainly have not met this standard for at least a decade. But as an attorney once said, if the two sides agree to a number, no one's overpaid.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 27, 2018 7:12:45 GMT -5
So the ACC adds yet another prick Coach...
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Newly added information is in bold. Former Big East Conference head coaches are indicated in italics. Open Division I head coaching positions are indicated by underline. There are presently 21 Division I head coaching vacancies.
ARIZONA (Pacific 12)-- Sean Miller (9 years; 22-6 this season; 242-72 at 'Zona; 312-119 overall) advised his team February 24 that he would not coach in that evening's game at Oregon after being implicated in a discussion to pay a potential recruit, as captured by an FBI wiretap, and was replaced as head coach on an interim basis February 24 by Lorenzo Romar (associate head coach at 'Zona and former head coach at Washington). Miller denied any involvement during a March 1 press conference, and was reinstated as head coach that day. ARKANSAS LITTLE ROCK (Sun Belt)-- Wes Flanigan (2 years; 7-25 this season; 22-42 at UA Little Rock and overall) was fired March 9, and was replaced as head coach March 27 by Darrell Walker (head coach at Division II Clark Atlanta, former head coach at NBA's Toronto Raptors and Washington Wizards, and former player with NBA's New York Knickerbockers, Denver Nuggets, Washington Bullets, Detroit Pistons and Chicago Bulls). BRYANT (Northeast)-- Tim O'Shea (10 years; 3-24 this season; 96-206 at Bryant; 216-301 overall) announced his retirement February 11, effective at the end of the season. CALIFORNIA RIVERSIDE (Big West)-- Dennis Cutts (5 years; 5-9 this season; 50-87 at UC Riverside and overall) was fired January 1, replaced as head coach on an interim basis by Justin Bell (associate head coach at UC Riverside), and replaced as head coach March 14 by David Patrick (associate head coach at Texas Christian). CALIFORNIA STATE NORTHRIDGE (Big West)-- Reggie Theus (5 years; 6-24 this season; 53-105 at CSN; 94-128 overall) was fired March 6, and was replaced as head coach March 12 by Mark Gottfried (former head coach at Murray State, Alabama and North Carolina State). CHICAGO STATE (Big West)-- Tracy Dildy (8 years; 3-29 this season; 53-188 at CSU and overall) was fired March 12. COLORADO STATE (Mountain West)-- Larry Eustachy (6 years; 10-14 this season; 121-74 at CSU; 523-330 overall) was placed on administrative leave February 3 after the commencement of an internal investigation January 31 into allegations of misconduct with players, assistant coaches and other staff members, and was replaced as head coach on an interim basis February 3 by Steve Barnes (associate head coach at CSU). Barnes was himself placed on administrative leave February 10 for undisclosed reasons, and was replaced as interim head coach on an interim basis February 10 by Jase Herl (assistant coach at CSU). Eustachy announced February 26 that he was "stepping down" as head coach, in a statement released by CSU; Eustachy will officially remain on administrative leave until June 30, when he will tender his resignation, and was replaced as head coach March 22 by Niko Medved (head coach at Drake). CONNECTICUT (American)-- Kevin Ollie (6 years; 14-18 this season, 127-79 at UConn and overall) was fired March 10 "for just cause" resulting from an ongoing NCAA investigation into program violations, was replaced as head coach on an interim basis by Raphael Chillious (associate head coach at UConn), and was replaced as head coach March 22 by Dan Hurley (head coach at Rhode Island). DELAWARE STATE (Mid-Eastern)-- Keith Walker (5 years, including one as an interim head coach; 3-25 this season; 42-91 at DSU and overall) was fired February 22, and replaced as head coach on an interim basis by Keith Johnson (assistant coach at DSU). DETROIT MERCY (Horizon)-- Bacari Alexander (2 years; 0-1 this season; 8-23 at UDM and overall) was indefinitely suspended for a "personnel matter" November 13, and replaced as head coach on an interim basis November 13 by Jermaine Jackson, Sr. (assistant coach at UDM). Alexander was reinstated as head coach by UDM on December 6, after missing seven games. Alexander (8-24 this season, 16-47 at UDM and overall) was fired March 26. DRAKE (Missouri Valley)-- Niko Medved (1 year; 17-17 this season and at Drake; 79-67 overall) resigned March 22 to accept the head coaching position at Colorado State. EAST CAROLINA (American)-- Jeff Lebo (8 years; 2-4 this season; 116-122 at ECU; 327-277 overall) resigned November 29, and was replaced as head coach on an interim basis November 29 by Michael Perry (assistant coach at ECU). EASTERN KENTUCKY (Ohio Valley)-- Dan McHale (3 years; 11-20 this season; 38-55 at EKU and overall) was fired February 26, was replaced as head coach on an interim basis February 26 by Reese Gains (assistant coach at EKU), and was replaced as head coach March 23 by A.W. Hamilton (assistant coach at North Carolina State). EVANSVILLE (Missouri Valley)-- Marty Simmons (11 years; 17-15 this season; 184-175 at UE; 282-248 overall) was fired March 13, and was replaced as head coach March 22 by Walter McCarty (assistant coach at NBA Boston Celtics, and former player with NBA's New York Knickerbockers, Boston Celtics, Phoenix Suns and Los Angeles Clippers). FLORIDA ATLANTIC (Conference USA)-- Michael Curry (4 years; 12-19 this season; 39-83 at FAU and overall) was fired March 16, and was replaced as head coach March 22 by Dusty May (assistant coach at Florida). FRESNO STATE (Mountain West)-- Rodney Terry (7 years; 21-11 this season; 126-108 at Fresno) resigned March 12 to accept the head coaching position at Texas El Paso. GEORGIA (Southeast)-- Mark Fox (9 years; 18-15 this season; 163-133 at UGA; 286-176 overall) was fired March 10, and was replaced as head coach March 15 by Tom Crean (former head coach at Indiana and Marquette). HIGH POINT (Big South)-- Scott Cherry (9 years; 14-16 this season; 146-134 at HPU and overall) resigned "by mutual agreement" March 7, and was replaced as head coach March 27 by Orlando "Tubby" Smith (former head coach at Memphis, Texas Tech, Minnesota, Kentucky, Georgia and Tulsa). INCARNATE WORD (Southland)-- Ken Burmeister (12 years, last five in Division I; 7-21 this season; 74-67 at UIW in Division I and 127-71 at UIW overall; 186-182 overall) was fired March 6, and was replaced as head coach March 21 by Dr. Carson Cunningham (head coach at NAIA Division I Carroll College). LA SALLE (Atlantic 10)-- Dr. John Giannini (14 years; 13-19 this season; 212-226 at La Salle; 508-375 overall) was fired March 23. LONGWOOD (Big South)-- Jayson Gee (5 years; 7-26 this season; 42-120 at Longwood; 202-169 overall) resigned March 2. LOUISVILLE (Atlantic Coast)-- Rick Pitino (16 years; 25-9 this past season; 416-141 at UL; 770-269 overall) was placed on administrative leave, as a prelude to being fired for cause, September 26 after announcement of a Department of Justice investigation into the payment of money by athletic shoe/apparel manufacturers to high school basketball players as facilitated through college basketball coaching staffs members, in which Louisville has been implicated, and was replaced as head coach on an interim basis September 29 by David Padgett (assistant coach at UL); Pitino was fired for cause October 17. Padgett (22-14 this season as interim head coach) was advised March 21 that he will not be considered for the head coaching position he filled this season on an interim basis, and was replaced as head coach March 27 by Chris Mack (head coach at Xavier). LOYOLA (MARYLAND) (Patriot)-- G.G. Smith (5 years; 9-22 this season; 56-98 at Loyola and overall) resigned March 8. MAINE (America East)-- Bob Walsh (4 years; 6-26 this season; 24-100 at Maine; 228-163 overall) announced March 5 that he would not seek an extension of his expiring four-year contract, and was replaced as head coach March 5 by Richard Barron (special assistant to the Maine director of athletics, and former Maine women's basketball head coach). MARIST (Metro Atlantic)-- Mike Maker (4 years; 6-25 this season; 28-97 at Marist; 175-129 overall) was fired March 5. MARYLAND EASTERN SHORE (Mid-Eastern)-- Bobby Collins (4 years; 7-25 this season; 49-81 at UMES; 229-248 overall) was fired March 26, and was replaced as head coach on an interim basis for the 2018-2019 season by Clifford Reed (associate head coach at UMES). McNEESE STATE (Southland)-- Dave Simmons (12 years; 11-17 this season; 154-212 at McNeese and overall) was fired March 4, and was replaced as head coach March 15 by Heath Schroyer (assistant coach at Brigham Young, and former head coach at Tennessee Martin, Wyoming and Portland State). MEMPHIS (American)-- Orlando "Tubby" Smith (2 years; 21-13 this season; 40-26 at UofM; 597-302 overall) was fired March 14, and was replaced as head coach March 19 by Anfernee "Penny" Hardaway (entrepreneur active in sports promotional activities in Memphis, and former player with NBA's Orlando Magic, Phoenix Suns, New York Knickerbockers and Miami Heat). MIDDLE TENNESSEE STATE (Conference USA)-- Kermit Davis (16 years; 25-7 this season; 332-187 at MTSU; 453-249 overall) resigned March 15 to accept the head coaching position at Mississippi, and was replaced as head coach March 24 by Nick McDevitt (head coach at North Carolina Asheville). MISSISSIPPI (Southeastern)-- Andy Kennedy (12 years; 11-16 this season; 245-155 at Ole Miss; 266-168 overall) announced his resignation February 12, effective at the end of the season. Kennedy announced February 18 that he would step down as head coach immediately rather than at the end of the season, was replaced as head coach on an interim basis February 18 by Tony Madlock (assistant coach at Ole Miss), and was replaced as head coach March 15 by Kermit Davis (head coach at Middle Tennessee State, and former head coach at Idaho and Texas A&M). MISSOURI STATE (Missouri Valley)-- Paul Lusk (7 years; 18-15 this season; 106-121 at MSU and overall) was fired March 3, and was replaced as head coach March 21 by Dana Ford (head coach at Tennessee State). NICHOLLS STATE (Southland)-- Richie Riley (2 years; 21-11 this season; 35-28 at Nicholls and overall) resigned March 15 to accept the head coaching position at South Alabama. NORTH CAROLINA ASHEVILLE (Big South)-- Nick McDevitt (5 years; 21-13 this season; 98-65 at UNC Asheville and overall) resigned March 24 to accept the head coaching position at Middle Tennessee State. NORTH CAROLINA CHARLOTTE (Conference USA)-- Mark Price (3 years; 3-6 this season; 30-42 at UNCC and overall) was fired December 14, and was replaced as head coach on an interim basis December 14 by Houston Fancher (assistant coach at UNCC). Fancher (3-17 this season as interim head coach) was fired March 6, and was replaced as head coach March 19 by Ron Sanchez (associate head coach at Virginia). PEPPERDINE (West Coast)-- Marty Wilson (8 years, including one as an interim head coach; 4-22 this season; 89-135 at Pepperdine and overall) was informed February 13 that his contract would be terminated at the end of the season, and was replaced as head coach by Lorenzo Romar (associate head coach at Arizona, and former head coach at Pepperdine, Saint Louis and Washington). PITTSBURGH (Atlantic Coast)-- Kevin Stallings (2 years; 8-24 this season; 24-41 at Pitt; 479-324 overall) was fired March 8, and was replaced as head coach March 27 by Jeff Capel (assistant coach at Duke, and former head coach at Virginia Commonwealth and Oklahoma). RHODE ISLAND (Atlantic 10)-- Dan Hurley (6 years; 26-8 this season; 113-82 at URI; 151-105 overall) resigned March 22 to accept the head coaching position at Connecticut. SAN DIEGO (West Coast)-- Lamont Smith (3 years; 18-12 this season; 36-50 at USD and overall) was placed on administrative leave February 26 after his arrest on suspicion of domestic violence charges, and was replaced as head coach on an interim basis "for the entire post-season" February 26 by Sam Scholl (assistant coach at USD). Smith resigned March 7. SOUTH ALABAMA (Sun Belt)-- Matthew Graves (5 years; 14-18 this season; 65-96 at USA and overall) was fired March 8, and was replaced as head coach March 15 by Richie Riley (head coach at Nicholls State). SOUTH CAROLINA UPSTATE (Atlantic Sun)-- Kyle Perry (1 year; 7-25 this season, at Upstate and overall) was fired March 1. SOUTH DAKOTA (Summit)-- Craig Smith (4 years; 26-9 this season; 79-55 at USD; 151-84 overall) resigned March 26 to accept the head coaching position at Utah State. SOUTHERN (Southwest)-- Roman Banks (5 years; 22-13 this past season; 99-67 at SU and overall) resigned March 31 to accept the athletic director position at SU, and was replaced as head coach on an interim basis March 31 by Morris Scott (associate head coach at SU, and former interim head coach at Okaloosa-Walton College, now JUCO Northwest Florida State). TENNESSEE STATE (Ohio Valley)-- Dana Ford (4 years; 15-15 this season; 57-65 at TSU and overall) resigned March 21 to accept the head coaching position at Missouri State, and was replaced as head coach March 26 by Brian "Penny" Collins (assistant coach at Illinois State). TEXAS ARLINGTON (Sun Belt)-- Scott Cross (12 years; 21-13 this season; 225-161 at UT-Arlington and overall) was fired March 26. TEXAS EL PASO (Conference USA)-- Tim Floyd (8 years; 1-5 this season; 138-99 at UTEP; 444-282 overall) announced his retirement November 27 immediately after a UTEP loss to Lamar, was replaced as head coach on an interim basis November 28 by Phil Johnson (assistant coach at UTEP), and was replaced as head coach March 12 by Rodney Terry (head coach at Fresno State). UTAH STATE (Mountain West)-- Tim Duryea (3 years; 17-17 this season; 47-49 at USU and overall) was fired March 11, and was replaced as head coach March 26 by Craig Smith (head coach at South Dakota). WESTERN CAROLINA (Southern)-- Larry Hunter (13 years; 13-19 this season; 193-229 at WCU; 397-277 overall) resigned March 4, and was replaced as head coach March 27 by Mark Prosser (assistant coach at Winthrop). XAVIER (Big East)-- Chris Mack (9 years; 29-6 this season; 212-96 at XU and overall) resigned March 27 to accept the head coaching position at Louisville.
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 27, 2018 10:43:40 GMT -5
Rothstein is tweeting that Mack to Louisville is just about a done deal.
Will be interesting to see where Xavier goes from here, assuming Mack is gone. Current assistant Travis Steele probably the favorite to get the gig, though Porter Moser may get a look.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 27, 2018 10:50:44 GMT -5
Given the reported tweet that an Xavier assistant told a recruit they were recruiting for Louisville now, sounds D's like Mack might intend to take Steele and the rest of the staff with him, although certainly Steele could stay if a deal was done quickly.
Moser would be a mistake. This season was lightning in a bottle, X can't make a risky hire like that if it wants to stay a prominent program.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 27, 2018 10:54:45 GMT -5
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Post by This Just In on Mar 27, 2018 11:13:46 GMT -5
I hope that Mack and his staff got at least an 8 year deal because who knows what's coming down the pipe from the Feds. It's not the NCAA investigating Louisville, and the NCAA will just have to sit back as the FBI and it's subpoena power that will do the heavy lifting on a program already on probation. To me this is simply a money grab as he proved you can win at a high level at Xavier. The last 3-4 years Xavier's had better overall seasons than Louisville. I thought it was shameless how Mack would put himself out there with the help of his pimp Goodman every year for the open jobs at other high majors even though his alma mater stepped up and continued to give him more and more money. I don't mind him going to his administration and getting them to pay as to close to his worth as possible. He earned the bump in salary. I think he could have done it quietly out of respect for Xavier. What bothers me is this is his alma mater he was doing this to on a yearly basis. Chris Mack is swimming with the sharks now, sometimes in life you have to be careful about what you keep asking for. Right now with the FBI investigation and being in the ACC, I do not think this is a better job than Xavier.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Mar 27, 2018 11:24:33 GMT -5
7 year deal is acknowledgement that Pittsburg is a disaster. 5-6 years is the typical length on head coaching deals. I think he could have pushed for an 8 year deal but his agent did a good job getting 7 years at an ACC school. It also tells me that the brass at Pit realizes how badly they messed up letting Dixon go. They should be ecstatic if they get 3 NCAA tournament appearances in those 7 years.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Mar 27, 2018 11:34:07 GMT -5
I hope that Mack and his staff got at least an 8 year deal because who knows what's coming down the pipe from the Feds. It's not the NCAA investigating Louisville, and the NCAA will just have to sit back as the FBI and it's subpoena power that will do the heavy lifting on a program already on probation. To me this is simply a money grab as he proved you can win at a high level at Xavier. The last 3-4 years Xavier's had better overall seasons than Louisville. I thought it was shameless how Mack would put himself out there with the help of his pimp Goodman every year for the open jobs at other high majors even though his alma mater stepped up and continued to give him more and more money. I don't mind him going to his administration and getting them to pay as to close to his worth as possible. He earned the bump in salary. I think he could have done it quietly out of respect for Xavier. What bothers me is this is his alma mater he was doing this to on a yearly basis. Chris Mack is swimming with the sharks now, sometimes in life you have to be careful about what you keep asking for. Right now with the FBI investigation and being in the ACC, I do not think this is a better job than Xavier. If you're a high level recruit with options, does the hire of Coach Mack at Louisville make a difference to you? With all that is circling the Louisville program from the Feds and still on NCAA probation with another possible major violation sitting out there waiting for the FBI to reveal? Outside of the obvious money grab, I don't understand the move. He's proven he can win at a high level at Xavier. At Xavier he had tremendous stability. If he got Xavier to 1 Final 4 in the next 6-8 years, he's a legend. With those same results at Louisville he's on the hot seat. The real question will be does the NCAA have the cajones to do what their rules dictate if what the Feds have on them is true and hit Louisville with the Death Penalty?
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 27, 2018 11:59:17 GMT -5
The real question will be does the NCAA have the cajones to do what their rules dictate if what the Feds have on them is true and hit Louisville with the Death Penalty? The so-called death penalty is for repeat major violations, not the severity of a violation. Contrary to popular wisdom, it has actually been imposed five times, not once. Kentucky (Basketball, 1952) SW Louisiana (Basketball, 1973) SMU (Football, 1986) Morehouse (Soccer, 2004) MacMurray (IL) (Tennis, 2005)
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