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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 8:39:33 GMT -5
Homeland Security? Director??? Oof....
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Post by CTHoya08 on May 22, 2018 15:21:16 GMT -5
This is the same person who graduated from SFS and is named Kirstjen Nielsen (honestly, can you even make up a more Scandinavian name?), but who purportedly doesn't know that Norway is a predominantly white country . . .
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Post by njhoya78 on May 22, 2018 16:20:31 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on May 22, 2018 19:06:40 GMT -5
Does anyone remember the 8th specification in Nixon's Article of Impeachment for obstruction of justice? Can anyone here seriously argue that Trump's conduct and the conduct of his subordinates (Pence, Sanders, Conway et al) is any different from Nixon's and his subordinates regarding Mueller's properly-predicated investigation? RESOLVED, That Richard M. Nixon, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanours, and that the following articles of impeachment to be exhibited to the Senate: ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT EXHIBITED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN THE NAME OF ITSELF AND OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AGAINST RICHARD M. NIXON, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, IN MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT OF ITS IMPEACHMENT AGAINST HIM FOR HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANOURS. ARTICLE 1 In his conduct of the office of President of the United States, Richard M. Nixon, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has prevented, obstructed, and impeded the administration of justice, in that: On June 17, 1972, and prior thereto, agents of the Committee for the Re-election of the President committed unlawful entry of the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee in Washington, District of Columbia, for the purpose of securing political intelligence. Subsequent thereto, Richard M. Nixon, using the powers of his high office, engaged personally and through his close subordinates and agents, in a course of conduct or plan designed to delay, impede, and obstruct the investigation of such illegal entry; to cover up, conceal and protect those responsible; and to conceal the existence and scope of other unlawful covert activities. 8. The means used to implement this course of conduct or plan included one or more of the following:making or causing to be made false or misleading public statements for the purpose of deceiving the people of the United States into believing that a thorough and complete investigation had been conducted with respect to allegations of misconduct on the part of personnel of the executive branch of the United States and personnel of the Committee for the Re-election of the President, and that there was no involvement of such personnel in such misconduct: or watergate.info/impeachment/articles-of-impeachmentThe difference is that Nixon actually committed this offense, and Trump is the victim of a witch hunt. BWA HA HA HA. If the Dems take control of the House, we can expect to see something along these lines again.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 11:39:06 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on May 30, 2018 5:38:53 GMT -5
But in an unusual shift Tuesday, three different voices on Fox News pushed back against the president’s most recent conspiracy theory. A Fox News guest, commentator and anchor all rebuked claims from the president and his allies that the FBI planted a “spy” in his campaign in an effort to undercut his candidacy. Outgoing Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), the House Oversight Committee Chairman and Trump supporter, said in an interview on Fox that the FBI was justified in using a secret informant to assist in the Russia investigation. Gowdy, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, attended a classified Justice Department briefing last week over the FBI’s use of the confidential source, identified as Stefan A. Halper. “President Trump himself in the Comey memos said if anyone connected with my campaign was working with Russia, I want you to investigate it, and it sounds to me like that is exactly what the FBI did,” Gowdy told host Martha MacCallum. “I think when the president finds out what happened, he is going to be not just fine, he is going to be glad that we have an FBI that took seriously what they heard.” “I am even more convinced that the FBI did exactly what my fellow citizens would want them to do when they got the information they got, and that it has nothing to do with Donald Trump,” Gowdy said. Asked about the president’s tweets on the subject, he added that such statements could be subject to questioning by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III. “If I were his lawyer, and I never will be, I would tell him to rely on his lawyers and his (communications) folks,” he said. Asked to respond to Gowdy’s remarks, a Fox News commentator known for defending the president also cast doubt on Trump’s “Spygate” claims. Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano (better known and often quoted by Trump as Judge Napolitano) said claims that the FBI placed an undercover spy on Trump’s campaign “seem to be baseless.” www.washingtonpost.com/regional/
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Post by hoyarooter on May 30, 2018 19:36:43 GMT -5
But in an unusual shift Tuesday, three different voices on Fox News pushed back against the president’s most recent conspiracy theory. A Fox News guest, commentator and anchor all rebuked claims from the president and his allies that the FBI planted a “spy” in his campaign in an effort to undercut his candidacy. Outgoing Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), the House Oversight Committee Chairman and Trump supporter, said in an interview on Fox that the FBI was justified in using a secret informant to assist in the Russia investigation. Gowdy, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, attended a classified Justice Department briefing last week over the FBI’s use of the confidential source, identified as Stefan A. Halper. “President Trump himself in the Comey memos said if anyone connected with my campaign was working with Russia, I want you to investigate it, and it sounds to me like that is exactly what the FBI did,” Gowdy told host Martha MacCallum. “I think when the president finds out what happened, he is going to be not just fine, he is going to be glad that we have an FBI that took seriously what they heard.” “I am even more convinced that the FBI did exactly what my fellow citizens would want them to do when they got the information they got, and that it has nothing to do with Donald Trump,” Gowdy said. Asked about the president’s tweets on the subject, he added that such statements could be subject to questioning by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III. “If I were his lawyer, and I never will be, I would tell him to rely on his lawyers and his (communications) folks,” he said. Asked to respond to Gowdy’s remarks, a Fox News commentator known for defending the president also cast doubt on Trump’s “Spygate” claims. Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano (better known and often quoted by Trump as Judge Napolitano) said claims that the FBI placed an undercover spy on Trump’s campaign “seem to be baseless.” www.washingtonpost.com/regional/This must be a late April Fool's Day joke. No other reasonable explanation.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 9:39:19 GMT -5
I guess its ok that the President tells easily verified lies on a daily basis..
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Post by hoyarooter on May 31, 2018 19:53:11 GMT -5
I guess its ok that the President tells easily verified lies on a daily basis.. It is amazing, isn't it? And appalling. And yet, his supporters will either continue to believe his blather or just not care.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 9:34:02 GMT -5
Roger Stone tells WaPo that Trump’s pardon of D’Souza sent a clear signal to Flynn, Manafort & others ensnared by Mueller: “The special counsel has awesome powers, as you know, but the president has even more awesome powers.”
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 9:45:44 GMT -5
Roger Stone tells WaPo that Trump’s pardon of D’Souza sent a clear signal to Flynn, Manafort & others ensnared by Mueller: “The special counsel has awesome powers, as you know, but the president has even more awesome powers.” Of course, there is a check on that awesome power. Unfortunately, that check is the feckless runts of the Republican-led Congress.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2018 9:30:40 GMT -5
Oh...
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Post by njhoya78 on Jun 3, 2018 9:34:10 GMT -5
“Our recollection keeps changing.”
I realize that Rudy expects to be paid handsomely, but how does he have the ability to say that with a straight face? We know he doesn’t have a poker face.
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 3, 2018 9:53:12 GMT -5
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Post by TC on Jun 3, 2018 17:15:39 GMT -5
We've gone from "he can fire Comey and it's not obstruction" to "he could murder Comey, nothing you can do about it":
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 3, 2018 17:17:17 GMT -5
Critics of the Trump’s recent pardons understandably and correctly see in them the actions of a man unable or unwilling to separate his personal interest and public role. He bypassed the Department of Justice’s well-established advisory process for supporting a president’s consideration of pardons, and he opened himself to the suspicion that he was making political points, catering to favored constituencies or perhaps sending reassuring messages to witnesses, suspects or even targets in the current Russia investigation. Once again, Donald Trump did things his way, as he pleased and in his own interest. This is a sharp criticism of his actions, but it is more than that. It also serves as a description of his leadership style, which is that of the classic demagogue. The politics of demagoguery most clearly defines the rule-of-law issues raised by Trump’s pardons and shows how they relate to his other moves to reshape the norms governing the executive’s stewardship of law enforcement. www.lawfareblog.com/pardons-obstruction-justice-and-rule-law-demagogic-presidency
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 4, 2018 5:17:43 GMT -5
We've gone from "he can fire Comey and it's not obstruction" to "he could murder Comey, nothing you can do about it": And what's the risk that some unhinged crazed Trump 2nd Amendment supporter decides that Mueller must go? Remember Pizzagate? This is insane and the morally bankrupt Republicans sit silently. Trump and his henchmen are absolutely disgusting.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2018 9:05:13 GMT -5
There was a man in 1776 that could have named himself king, he chose to be a President with limited Powers...
“Hail to the king”
Even Richard Nixon's DOJ didn't think he could pardon himself.
Aside from the fact the President is idk... arguing he is above the law, it's very interesting that the same guy complaining about the length of the investigation is the same one who says he's too busy for an interview. An interview might speed up the process for him... But he can't interview because his own lawyers believe he's a serial liar who at minimum would perjure himself.
Welp... I guess in the meantime we'll just watch him act like a tin-pot dictator, making claims he can gun down the FBI director and face no recourse, while Republicans pretend it's normal. It's like the time when....
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 4, 2018 17:08:47 GMT -5
Spineless and morally bankrupt GOP has its new Speaker ready to go. Treasonous Republicans, I hope you are very very proud of your cult. On the evidence of House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s CNN interview over the weekend, the likely next speaker of the House is a mindless sycophant and a threat to the constitutional order. Confronted with a simple ethical question — would he condemn demonstrable White House lies in covering up President Trump’s role in drafting his son’s account of the now-infamous 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Russians — McCarthy, a California Republican, was initially dumbstruck, then shifted into a prerecorded attack on special counsel Robert S. Mueller III. It would have been easy enough to say: “The president and his team are hurting themselves with unnecessary falsehoods. Their overall case, however, is strong.” But such is the atmosphere of intimidation in the Republican Party that affirming the Ninth Commandment is seen as an act of disloyalty. When the king is a liar, truth becomes treason. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-likely-next-speaker-of-the-house-is-a-mindless-sycophant/2018/06/04/dced4d54-6819-11e8-9e38-24e693b38637_story.html?utm_term=.55ad9a283904
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Post by njhoya78 on Jun 4, 2018 17:57:10 GMT -5
November is coming. It’s clear the GOP, while in control of the House and Senate, will aid and abet the President. It’s up to us to go to the polls, vote, and change the balance of power. That’s the only way this will change.
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