hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 23, 2018 20:30:11 GMT -5
Another school shooting today. We definitely need more guns. Also one yesterday, but no serious injuries, thank God.
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Post by hoya9797 on Feb 14, 2018 17:54:49 GMT -5
Add another school shooting to the incredibly long list. Seems that thoughts and prayers aren't working. Maybe try something that works?
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Post by njhoya78 on Feb 14, 2018 18:21:24 GMT -5
Add another school shooting to the incredibly long list. Seems that thoughts and prayers aren't working. Maybe try something that works? Why start now? Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown CT wasn't horrific enough in December 2012 to change anything.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 14, 2018 20:41:30 GMT -5
Horrible. Again. I know that gun regulations wouldn't get rid of all of these or all violence by any stretch but can we please give them a try? I can't imagine it would make incidents like this one more frequent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2018 21:02:57 GMT -5
It only happens here... We've had 18 school shootings this year... 18... It's February...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 11:07:27 GMT -5
House Speaker Paul Ryan likes to say the same thing after gun massacres. And then do virtually nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 11:51:05 GMT -5
Every other country on the planet has citizens who are mentally ill, but only one country has this...
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 15, 2018 13:21:16 GMT -5
This sounds odd -- a guy named Cruz as a white nationalist group member? The leader of a white nationalist militia says Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz was a member of his group and participated in paramilitary drills in Tallahassee. Jordan Jereb told The Associated Press on Thursday that his group, the Republic of Florida, wants Florida to become its own white ethno-state. He said his group holds “spontaneous random demonstrations” and tries not to participate in the modern world. Jereb said he didn’t know Cruz personally and that “he acted on his own behalf of what he just did and he’s solely responsible for what he just did.” He also said he had “trouble with a girl” and he believed the timing of the attack, carried out on Valentine’s Day, wasn’t a coincidence. Nineteen-year-old Cruz has been charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder in the shooting. apnews.com/892a28db92924e2faa15e7b90a5b843f
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 15, 2018 20:18:43 GMT -5
This is a national disgrace, and we can reliably be counted on to do nothing.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 15, 2018 21:33:08 GMT -5
This is a national disgrace, and we can reliably be counted on to do nothing. Actually, we used to do nothing. Now, it seems, we're trying to exacerbate the problem by simultaneously cutting health care and making it even EASIER to get guns (including assault weapons) legally. All the while, our president implies that the students and teachers should have done more to stop this without once acknowledging his administration's part in this. Cue the instantaneous "this isn't the time to talk about gun violence" or "politicizing" rhetoric. It's another horrible, awful incident that has snuffed out lives way too early and decimated the families left behind. But the problem, apparently, is in attempting to draw attention to contributing factors. Right. Sadly, as we all know, it won't be long before the next one and, again, it won't be time to talk about guns or mental health issues in our country. At the same time, we have this insanity happening: www.nraila.org/articles/20171206/house-passes-concealed-carry-reciprocityThe party that touts the importance of states' rights wants to usurp state gun laws so they can keep that cash rolling in from the NRA all the while trying to justify it with the Second Amendment. Sounds like the modern party of family values, doesn't it?
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Post by tashoya on Feb 15, 2018 22:18:06 GMT -5
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Post by EasyEd on Feb 16, 2018 9:10:38 GMT -5
This sounds odd -- a guy named Cruz as a white nationalist group member? The leader of a white nationalist militia says Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz was a member of his group and participated in paramilitary drills in Tallahassee. Jordan Jereb told The Associated Press on Thursday that his group, the Republic of Florida, wants Florida to become its own white ethno-state. He said his group holds “spontaneous random demonstrations” and tries not to participate in the modern world. Jereb said he didn’t know Cruz personally and that “he acted on his own behalf of what he just did and he’s solely responsible for what he just did.” He also said he had “trouble with a girl” and he believed the timing of the attack, carried out on Valentine’s Day, wasn’t a coincidence. Nineteen-year-old Cruz has been charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder in the shooting. apnews.com/892a28db92924e2faa15e7b90a5b843fLocal authorities say they have found no evidence linking him to white nationalist group.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 9:25:40 GMT -5
This sounds odd -- a guy named Cruz as a white nationalist group member? The leader of a white nationalist militia says Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz was a member of his group and participated in paramilitary drills in Tallahassee. Jordan Jereb told The Associated Press on Thursday that his group, the Republic of Florida, wants Florida to become its own white ethno-state. He said his group holds “spontaneous random demonstrations” and tries not to participate in the modern world. Jereb said he didn’t know Cruz personally and that “he acted on his own behalf of what he just did and he’s solely responsible for what he just did.” He also said he had “trouble with a girl” and he believed the timing of the attack, carried out on Valentine’s Day, wasn’t a coincidence. Nineteen-year-old Cruz has been charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder in the shooting. apnews.com/892a28db92924e2faa15e7b90a5b843fLocal authorities say they have found no evidence linking him to white nationalist group. Glad we got that out of the way. Now let's focus on the fact that he murdered 17 people in cold blood, and what we can do to try to prevent this from happening again.
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 16, 2018 20:27:47 GMT -5
This is a national disgrace, and we can reliably be counted on to do nothing. Actually, we used to do nothing. Now, it seems, we're trying to exacerbate the problem by simultaneously cutting health care and making it even EASIER to get guns (including assault weapons) legally. All the while, our president implies that the students and teachers should have done more to stop this without once acknowledging his administration's part in this. Cue the instantaneous "this isn't the time to talk about gun violence" or "politicizing" rhetoric. It's another horrible, awful incident that has snuffed out lives way too early and decimated the families left behind. But the problem, apparently, is in attempting to draw attention to contributing factors. Right. Sadly, as we all know, it won't be long before the next one and, again, it won't be time to talk about guns or mental health issues in our country. At the same time, we have this insanity happening: www.nraila.org/articles/20171206/house-passes-concealed-carry-reciprocityThe party that touts the importance of states' rights wants to usurp state gun laws so they can keep that cash rolling in from the NRA all the while trying to justify it with the Second Amendment. Sounds like the modern party of family values, doesn't it? We didn't have to wait very long for what was almost the next one. There's a story on the internet today about a grandmother in Washington state who turned in her 18 year old grandson when she learned that he was planning a mass shooting at his high school. Supposedly the more people he could have killed, the better he would have liked it. He reportedly had an assault rifle.
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 16, 2018 20:35:01 GMT -5
Also, major props to Lyin' Ted Cruz for accusing the Dems of attempting to politicize the Florida massacre. That's right, Lyin' Ted, let's just retain the status quo. It's working oh so well.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 16, 2018 22:15:38 GMT -5
Also, major props to Lyin' Ted Cruz for accusing the Dems of attempting to politicize the Florida massacre. That's right, Lyin' Ted, let's just retain the status quo. It's working oh so well. I'm still confused by how mass murders are a political issue. What a more basic human right? The right to not get killed by an assault weapon or the right to own one? Not for nothing, no one in our government seems to bat an eye when we stop the sales of assault weapons to the police in the Philippines because they're being used to kill civilians.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2018 10:56:32 GMT -5
Trump, in two quick stops at a hospital and sheriff’s office near the school where 17 were killed and scores were injured, praised the doctors, police officers, fire officials and others who responded quickly to the mass shooting in Parkland, casting their response as heroic and record-setting. “Incredible job, and everybody is talking about it,” Trump said of the response, with dozens of officers flanking a large circular conference room table on the fifth floor of the Broward County Sheriff’s Office. “They were in really great shape,” he said of the families. __ He said he was impressed with the speed with which first responders reacted, calling it “record-setting” and “in one case, 20 minutes” from the school to the hospital. “It’s an incredible thing,” Trump said. He later said the officers deserve a raise. He did not give an emotional or rousing commemoration to the victims — like President Barack Obama’s after a mass shooting at a Charleston, S.C., church — nor did he publicly greet any families whose children were killed in the attack. Speaking at a funeral or a large vigil was not on the agenda. There were no calls for American resolve. There were no tears. The visits were quick. For instance, Friday night, he was in the hospital for about 35 minutes, speaking to the news media for about 45 seconds. He was in the sheriff’s office a bit longer. The victims and those present at a vigil who called for tougher gun-control laws did not see the president. ___ At the end, Michael Leonard, the officer who found the gunman and handcuffed him, spent 15 seconds explaining his actions. The president was not satisfied, so he elaborated for the officer: “That was so modest; I would have told it much differently,” Trump said. “I would have said, without me, they never would have found him.” _ www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-a-brief-florida-stop-trump-focuses-on-praising-responders/2018/02/16/ff5444cc-1389-11e8-9065-e55346f6de81_story.html?utm_term=.7f6ae0377c10
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2018 13:36:56 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 13:00:26 GMT -5
"My message for the people in office is: you’re either with us or against us. We are losing our lives while adults play around" — Cameron Kasky, a junior at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 13:14:59 GMT -5
The message travels from the far right, to Fox, to the Presidents twitter account...
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