dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Oct 16, 2021 14:58:15 GMT -5
I'm tired of all of the posts about prospects placing the Hoyas, in their top x, that lead to nowhere! Why put that crap out there? Its just click bait! Very frustrating! It seems true most often that it is BS! Generally if they are for us, its quiet and stealthy!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 16:31:12 GMT -5
"I chose Syracuse because the school, the campus, everything when I first visited there felt like they were welcoming me," Brown said. "I built a good relationship with the coaches, the players and the players in my recruiting class that's going to Syracuse." Through the recruiting process, Brown says that relationship with the staff played a large role in his decision. "Coach G-Mac is a very good coach," Brown said. "They were recruiting me last year and it just kept going from there. We had a good relationship over the whole Covid thing. We talked a lot, kept communicating. Then me and coach Boeheim started to talk a little bit. I just felt welcomed by them and everybody else (on the staff)." While it has been a few weeks since Brown's official visit to Syracuse, he says he knew early on the trip that he wanted Central New York to be his future home. "I believe it was the first day," Brown said. "I got there the night before the visit, but the first actual day, I knew that was the place." Brown did not inform the coaching staff of his intentions right away, however. A few days after the visit, he spoke with the Syracuse coaches and let them know he wanted to join the program. "They were not shocked but they were very happy," Brown said. "I think I called them like two days after my visit and told them. I had talked to all the coaches right after that. They all gave me a call, it was a long conversation, just congratulating me. Very welcoming." Also joining the program is Justin Taylor, a shooting guard in the 2022 class. Taylor and Brown are close friends and now will be playing college basketball together at the highest level. "It means a lot," Brown said. "Me and Justin have played a lot together when we were younger. It was just fun playing with Justin. He's a very good player. We have a lot of connections and see a lot of things. I know it's going to be the same (playing together) but also even better." What is Brown bringing to Syracuse? "A player with a chip on my shoulder," Brown said. "Coming in just trying to get after it. Being with my teammates, building my character and having a good time on and off the court." www.si.com/college/syracuse/recruiting/maliq-brown-commits-syracuse-basketballWhich isn't to suggest that other schools didn't have a same or similar pitch. hat do you expect a kid that commits to say? "Despite it being winter 6 months out of the year, a campus with no redeeming aesthetics and a system that doesn't translate to the NBA, I'm excited to be wearing orange ..."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 16:40:07 GMT -5
I think his decision was a good one for Georgetown.
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Oct 16, 2021 19:19:20 GMT -5
"I chose Syracuse because the school, the campus, everything when I first visited there felt like they were welcoming me," Brown said. "I built a good relationship with the coaches, the players and the players in my recruiting class that's going to Syracuse." Through the recruiting process, Brown says that relationship with the staff played a large role in his decision. "Coach G-Mac is a very good coach," Brown said. "They were recruiting me last year and it just kept going from there. We had a good relationship over the whole Covid thing. We talked a lot, kept communicating. Then me and coach Boeheim started to talk a little bit. I just felt welcomed by them and everybody else (on the staff)." While it has been a few weeks since Brown's official visit to Syracuse, he says he knew early on the trip that he wanted Central New York to be his future home. "I believe it was the first day," Brown said. "I got there the night before the visit, but the first actual day, I knew that was the place." Brown did not inform the coaching staff of his intentions right away, however. A few days after the visit, he spoke with the Syracuse coaches and let them know he wanted to join the program. "They were not shocked but they were very happy," Brown said. "I think I called them like two days after my visit and told them. I had talked to all the coaches right after that. They all gave me a call, it was a long conversation, just congratulating me. Very welcoming." Also joining the program is Justin Taylor, a shooting guard in the 2022 class. Taylor and Brown are close friends and now will be playing college basketball together at the highest level. "It means a lot," Brown said. "Me and Justin have played a lot together when we were younger. It was just fun playing with Justin. He's a very good player. We have a lot of connections and see a lot of things. I know it's going to be the same (playing together) but also even better." What is Brown bringing to Syracuse? "A player with a chip on my shoulder," Brown said. "Coming in just trying to get after it. Being with my teammates, building my character and having a good time on and off the court." www.si.com/college/syracuse/recruiting/maliq-brown-commits-syracuse-basketballWhich isn't to suggest that other schools didn't have a same or similar pitch. hat do you expect a kid that commits to say? "Despite it being winter 6 months out of the year, a campus with no redeeming aesthetics and a system that doesn't translate to the NBA, I'm excited to be wearing orange ..." You ever been on Syracuse campus?
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Post by wsdhoya on Oct 21, 2021 0:35:36 GMT -5
I'm tired of all of the posts about prospects placing the Hoyas, in their top x, that lead to nowhere! Why put that crap out there? Its just click bait! Very frustrating! It seems true most often that it is BS! Generally if the are for us, its quiet and stealthy! Heard a really interesting quote from a coach that fanbases have no idea about recruiting. A school will show up in a top 3/5/10 or whatever for a kid that they haven't talked to in months. You tend to be able to tell when a kid's recruitment is going well (not really at this program since 0 info ever comes out to writers) but other than that fan bases are clueless and top ___ lists mean nothing.
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Post by hsaxon on Oct 21, 2021 18:34:30 GMT -5
I'm tired of all of the posts about prospects placing the Hoyas, in their top x, that lead to nowhere! Why put that crap out there? Its just click bait! Very frustrating! It seems true most often that it is BS! Generally if the are for us, its quiet and stealthy! For the large majority, when we are up against Kentucky, Duke, NC, Gonzaga, etc. and we are in the final five or six, it is not happening.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Oct 21, 2021 20:43:36 GMT -5
motor, rebounding. would be a huge get for the hoyas
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Post by s4hoyas on Oct 21, 2021 21:19:58 GMT -5
This is getting very, very old...and more and more difficult to deal with...the recruiting since the BE championship (aside from Anglin) has been downright depressing...
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Post by prhoya on Oct 21, 2021 21:24:50 GMT -5
motor, rebounding. would be a huge get for the hoyas Another miss with so much front court playing time available…
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2021 21:32:04 GMT -5
This is getting very, very old...and more and more difficult to deal with...the recruiting since the BE championship (aside from Anglin) has been downright depressing... Relax and be patient. There is still the transfer portal where I contend you will get a better recruit.
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Post by dchoya72 on Oct 22, 2021 3:33:56 GMT -5
When it comes to recruiting, we need some, or at least one that offers hope and meets our needs. We're getting battered lately.
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Post by seaweed on Oct 22, 2021 5:30:55 GMT -5
Another miss with so much front court playing time available… Not sure I agree that we have a ton of front court time available. Tre, Ryan, Tim I are all eligible to come back next year, as are Holloway, Wilson and Billingsley. Even Kobe Clark May play some 4, we don’t really know yet but he’s close on size if healthy. At least three of those will be ahead of most recruits in line, especially a project kid like this guy. I see other reasons why we should be a draw for a guy like this, but the availability of abundant front court PT is not super certain.
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Post by prhoya on Oct 22, 2021 5:52:22 GMT -5
Disagree. The only way that front court playing time is limited for him is if Tre comes, and Pat cannot sit and wait. Btw, Clark is nowhere near his size and doesn’t play the same position.
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Post by calhoya on Oct 22, 2021 6:43:24 GMT -5
Recruiting issues: not winning enough and missing out on the tournament; constant turnover with numerous players leaving the program every year for a variety of reasons; a challenging academic environment; failure to place anyone in the NBA draft and losing elite status and playing in an empty arena with little fan support and virtually no local media coverage.
The good news is that if Ewing can show the same growth with this group of talented kids as he did with a less talented team at the end of last year, college basketball now has free agency and there will be plenty of quality players available come April from decommits and the transfer portal. Patience is required but more than anything else the coach has to show this year that he is the guy who can lift this program out of mediocrity. No matter the obstacles, he must show real progress this year to make this team relevant again in recruiting and on the court.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2021 7:27:20 GMT -5
Recruiting issues: not winning enough and missing out on the tournament; constant turnover with numerous players leaving the program every year for a variety of reasons; a challenging academic environment; failure to place anyone in the NBA draft and losing elite status and playing in an empty arena with little fan support and virtually no local media coverage. The good news is that if Ewing can show the same growth with this group of talented kids as he did with a less talented team at the end of last year, college basketball now has free agency and there will be plenty of quality players available come April from decommits and the transfer portal. Patience is required but more than anything else the coach has to show this year with that he is the guy who can lift this program out of mediocrity. No matter the obstacles, he must show real progress this year to make this team relevant again in recruiting and on the court. Largely agree, although always a reminder it’s hard to get in the head of 17/18 year olds. Re: Okafor, Cal’s been dismal the past few years and their home attendance has been around 5,000 (granted, at Haas where the capacity is 12k, a crowd of 5,000 probably still feels much better than the same # at Verizon). Berkeley is nice, though …
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Post by bostonfan on Oct 22, 2021 8:14:12 GMT -5
Recruiting issues: not winning enough and missing out on the tournament; constant turnover with numerous players leaving the program every year for a variety of reasons; a challenging academic environment; failure to place anyone in the NBA draft and losing elite status and playing in an empty arena with little fan support and virtually no local media coverage. The good news is that if Ewing can show the same growth with this group of talented kids as he did with a less talented team at the end of last year, college basketball now has free agency and there will be plenty of quality players available come April from decommits and the transfer portal. Patience is required but more than anything else the coach has to show this year with that he is the guy who can lift this program out of mediocrity. No matter the obstacles, he must show real progress this year to make this team relevant again in recruiting and on the court. Largely agree, although always a reminder it’s hard to get in the head of 17/18 year olds. Re: Okafor, Cal’s been dismal the past few years and their home attendance has been around 5,000 (granted, at Haas where the capacity is 12k, a crowd of 5,000 probably still feels much better than the same # at Verizon). Berkeley is nice, though … I have no idea what might have happened with Okafor, but we were pretty late getting involved with this young man and he may already have had a strong relationship with Cal before we entered the picture. Or he might just like the West Coast option more than being in DC. Could be a lot of reasons for this decision. The bigger issue is that we have only landed one recruit for next season at this point and it would be great to see at least one more recruit make a commitment. I do trust the staff to identify the type of players they want to prioritize, but seeing commitments to other programs get frustrating. I realize there is like to be some activity with the transfer market, (probably coming and going!) but it is always exciting to get a glimpse of the future for the Hoyas with a few exciting recruits.
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Post by bearsandbulls on Oct 22, 2021 8:20:06 GMT -5
Berkeley is a great destination, but maybe not for BB. They have been terrible for a number of years and are in desperate straights right now with their best player transferring out to SDSU (Matt Bradley). So, I think not a BB head to head recruiting loss as G'town has much better upside right now, but probably more a weather, atmosphere, and the ability to be more of an impact player than he would in DC. Love both the Bears and Hoyas, but Cal is not as much about BB as G'town is. Another reason is probably in force.
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Post by hoya73 on Oct 22, 2021 8:31:48 GMT -5
Is it possible that we are getting too wrapped up in needing GU to win every recruiting battle for every recruit with whom someone associates us? Per the recruiting table, we have 2 more open spots for the class of '22. Say we get Favour Aire and, as happens every year, a recruit that absolutely NOBODY has written about on this board, but of whom our talent evaluation proves to be sound. Will losing Okafor to Cal seem like the tragedy it's being portrayed as here in the immediate aftermath of his announcement?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2021 8:38:32 GMT -5
Idk some of these kids feel like reaches to me. Idk enough about this kid to say he us one but a lot of the high level teams recruiting him backed off.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2021 8:43:18 GMT -5
Is it possible that we are getting too wrapped up in needing GU to win every recruiting battle for every recruit with whom someone associates us? Per the recruiting table, we have 2 more open spots for the class of '22. Say we get Favour Aire and, as happens every year, a recruit that absolutely NOBODY has written about on this board, but of whom our talent evaluation proves to be sound. Will losing Okafor to Cal seem like the tragedy it's being portrayed as here in the immediate aftermath of his announcement? Yes. I don't remember too many complaining about passing on Kenneth Lofton, but -- he'd sure look good in blue & gray right now. Evaluating this recruiting class might not be finished for another 4.5 years. Doing it day-to-day right now seems like a fools errand.
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