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Post by bostonfan on Apr 19, 2017 12:53:21 GMT -5
From the highlight clips on this page, it looks like the kid is not overly athletic, but can score the ball. Some of the highlights shown do not look like he was playing against great competition, but if he is making some of these All Star teams that others have listed he has to be pretty highly regarded by some of the scouts. Worth taking a look at him or any other players who might be available and willing to consider Georgetown.
I don't think you can just give up on next year. While I am not expecting the team to have a great year you also can not build any type of recruiting momentum if you just roll over for the entire year and end up losing 25 games.
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Post by beenaround on Apr 19, 2017 14:56:27 GMT -5
I don't know anything at all about this specific player, but I am encouraged that Coach Ewing is engaging with players so quickly and seems to be working really hard trying to put together a roster for next years team. What would everyone have him do now, just sit back and not recruit anyone but 5 star players, who at this point in the 2017 recruiting process are not going to come to Georgetown anyways. Maybe he feels this kids game will translate well into the system he wants to play. Honestly? - provided no additional transfers and Peak leaves, there's four open scholarships. Fill three, only fill the the fourth with Tremont if he wants to come. Leave one for the 2018 class and bank on signing a bunch of kids there - you've got more time and your results will likely be better. - would rather have grad transfers or JUCOs for those slots - if we take a Jahvon Blair, it's for four years. If Tremont signs on, there's the possibility of being good right away, so the JUCOs / grad transfers would probably help more immediately than a Canadian freshman. If Tremont doesn't sign on, we're going to be bad anyway, at least then you have the scholarships to work with in 2019 or 2020. I don't think JUCO/grad transfers are a great move long term, but this spring they make sense. - no 2 star Class of 2017 kids this Spring - tying up a scholarship on a kid that isn't going to change our fortunes next year and likely is only a body for 2017 and will sit bench 2019-2021 - that's going to hamper things in the future. If you can find a 3 or 4 star kid like Allen, that's a different story. Again, can anyone give me anything on this particular kid, why he's a win other than no one's heard of him because he's from Canada and therefore he must be a hidden gem? I've watched the videos, maybe he can score, but I'm kind of doubtful on that in high majors, and he doesn't seem like a floor general/pass-first guy. He doesn't look particularly strong, although 6'4" is tall for a guard. Doesn't seem like he dunks in games. I was completely for replacing III, and am excited that PE is getting a chance to be a head coach at Gtown. However, I tend to agree with TC's basic premise that it would be better, THIS YEAR, to add some short term grad transfers and JUCO's than sign 4 year guys who are not high major players. This kid's video is not all that impressive, and obviously I have never seen him play or even heard of him until very recently. But I think it's fair to say that "highlight videos" normally show the best of a player, not the worst aspects. A great highlight video doesn't mean the player is going to be great..we've all been victims of that. But bad ones...wouldn't thrill me.
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Post by centercourt400s on Apr 19, 2017 15:05:07 GMT -5
I know the changes recently have been rough and it will take time for the fan base to adjust. I also understand, based on results, why people were questioning the previous administration's recruiting choices and methods.
But let's stop for a quick reality check. Our coach today is one of the top college basketball players to ever play, a perennial NBA All Star, one of the top 50 basketball players in history, a member of the hall of fame and a 15 year NBA assistant coach who is well regarded by, well basically everyone (who matter). Don't you think we can trust him to know what kind of player he wants to make up his team?
If Jahvon Blair is someone Pat Ewing wants then sign him up!
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Post by beenaround on Apr 19, 2017 15:17:47 GMT -5
I know the changes recently have been rough and it will take time for the fan base to adjust. I also understand, based on results, why people were questioning the previous administration's recruiting choices and methods. But let's stop for a quick reality check. Our coach today is one of the top college basketball players to ever play, a perennial NBA All Star, one of the top 50 basketball players in history, a member of the hall of fame and a 15 year NBA assistant coach who is well regarded by, well basically everyone (who matter). Don't you think we can trust him to know what kind of player he wants to make up his team? If Jahvon Blair is someone Pat Ewing wants then sign him up! Agree with literally every word you wrote. IF PE really thinks the kid has talent...than I trust his judgement 1000 times more than my own. My concern is that he has come into the recruiting season so late that obviously only the low hanging fruit remains. Would rather he grab short term low hanging fruit and focus on getting the better players in the 18 class. However, if PE thinks this kid can be a legit BE player (not just under these tough circumstances) than I am all for him.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Apr 19, 2017 16:00:49 GMT -5
I know the changes recently have been rough and it will take time for the fan base to adjust. I also understand, based on results, why people were questioning the previous administration's recruiting choices and methods. But let's stop for a quick reality check. Our coach today is one of the top college basketball players to ever play, a perennial NBA All Star, one of the top 50 basketball players in history, a member of the hall of fame and a 15 year NBA assistant coach who is well regarded by, well basically everyone (who matter). Don't you think we can trust him to know what kind of player he wants to make up his team? If Jahvon Blair is someone Pat Ewing wants then sign him up! Agree with literally every word you wrote. IF PE really thinks the kid has talent...than I trust his judgement 1000 times more than my own. My concern is that he has come into the recruiting season so late that obviously only the low hanging fruit remains. Would rather he grab short term low hanging fruit and focus on getting the better players in the 18 class. However, if PE thinks this kid can be a legit BE player (not just under these tough circumstances) than I am all for him. Totally agree. Only other point I'll mention is that in Coach Ewing's first interview he mentioned that he did not want to recruit players that he would later regret, so I have to assume the 2017 players he is reaching out to have a chance of being long term players for the team. Also, it's not like he is reaching out to every available 2017 two star player out there. Reaching out to Waters, Blair, Allen, and Kante is not exactly a sign of Coach Ewing filling the roster with warm bodies that will clog the roster for 4 years.
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Post by prhoya on Apr 19, 2017 16:09:17 GMT -5
I don't think you can just give up on next year. While I am not expecting the team to have a great year you also can not build any type of recruiting momentum if you just roll over for the entire year and end up losing 25 games. There's no way Pat is giving up on next year. If he did, it would be cheating Trey, Govan, Marcus et al. In fact, I bet Pat talked about this with all of the players during their interviews, the players liked what they heard and committed to playing Pat's way. Just a couple of pieces, plus a hell of an off-season not seen since Govan got to GU will do wonders for this group.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 19, 2017 16:36:31 GMT -5
Save the blue bloods, almost every successful team has at least one or two contributors who are 3, or even 2, star recruits. You have to piece a team together, with a variety of parts. I trust Patrick regarding Blair.
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Post by hoyas4lyfe on Apr 19, 2017 20:21:46 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Apr 19, 2017 20:33:34 GMT -5
Who is Simi Editedtu?
I don't mean this as a joke - obviously the automatic edit took over here, so I'm just wondering about this other kid mentioned in this thread.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Apr 19, 2017 20:36:24 GMT -5
I know the changes recently have been rough and it will take time for the fan base to adjust. I also understand, based on results, why people were questioning the previous administration's recruiting choices and methods. But let's stop for a quick reality check. Our coach today is one of the top college basketball players to ever play, a perennial NBA All Star, one of the top 50 basketball players in history, a member of the hall of fame and a 15 year NBA assistant coach who is well regarded by, well basically everyone (who matter). Don't you think we can trust him to know what kind of player he wants to make up his team? If Jahvon Blair is someone Pat Ewing wants then sign him up! Agree with literally every word you wrote. IF PE really thinks the kid has talent...than I trust his judgement 1000 times more than my own. My concern is that he has come into the recruiting season so late that obviously only the low hanging fruit remains. Would rather he grab short term low hanging fruit and focus on getting the better players in the 18 class. However, if PE thinks this kid can be a legit BE player (not just under these tough circumstances) than I am all for him. Agreed. And we have 8 slots open after this year as it stands. Pretty sure Blair isn't going to keep us from landing anyone. If we're worried our 8th interested blue chipper doesn't have a spot, I don't think anyone will care at that point.
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Post by CaliHoya on Apr 20, 2017 9:27:17 GMT -5
Any reports on his visit and who is with him? This is a good way to see who the assistants are. I saw Tony Skinn recently followed JB on Twitter...
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Post by hoyarooter on Apr 20, 2017 17:02:37 GMT -5
Any reports on his visit and who is with him? This is a good way to see who the assistants are. I saw Tony Skinn recently followed JB on Twitter... It was a tall guy wearing a bag over his head so he couldn't be identified.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 16:30:44 GMT -5
Got him.......
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Post by deacon on Apr 21, 2017 16:31:27 GMT -5
EDITED: See post directly above.
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Post by sleepy on Apr 21, 2017 16:34:12 GMT -5
Lets hope he's good and I guess we can stop the Tremont dream now. Yes, because as we have learned, having too many guards is a very very bad thing.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Apr 21, 2017 16:38:51 GMT -5
Lets hope he's good and I guess we can stop the Tremont dream now. Yes, because as we have learned, having too many guards is a very very bad thing. Yeah pretty sure this does not affect Tremont's recruiting at all. But welcome Jahvon! May he be Ewing's Jon Wallace.
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 21, 2017 16:39:29 GMT -5
Welcome aboard! He kinda reminds me of Cheatham from Marquette..
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Post by hoyainla on Apr 21, 2017 16:40:49 GMT -5
Lets hope he's good and I guess we can stop the Tremont dream now. Yes, because as we have learned, having too many guards is a very very bad thing. Yea decided to delete it has who know who will be on the team. They seemed to really want this kid so hopefully the see something that I don't from that film. Let's hope he's is a knock down shooter and can play D. He doesn't seem very athletic but he does seem crafty around the rim. Just worried at the next level that won't translate.
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Post by hoyainla on Apr 21, 2017 16:46:05 GMT -5
Welcome aboard! He kinda reminds me of Cheatham from Marquette.. This is actually a pretty good comparison from the film I watched.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 16:48:29 GMT -5
Welcome aboard! He kinda reminds me of Cheatham from Marquette.. I'll need a couple days to watch him, not really up on his game at all.. Pretty solid for a guy with no college coaching experience or staff in place to get his first kid to sign in less than 3 weeks. If Pat's willing to grind and gets the right people in place, we might have something...
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