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Post by augustusfinknottle on Mar 24, 2017 20:30:59 GMT -5
I hate the notion that there really is a "national coaching search" and hope that the notion of any sort of committee is just window dressing. I prefer the completely top-down confidential method. Reed is the AD and it should be his call to recommend his top choice and the school's administration, which then has to decide whether or not to pull the trigger. Vet these folks like spies or Supreme Court justices, decides who you want, and go for your guy- whether you have interviewed one candidate or a dozen. What is the advantage of that approach? What reason has Lee Reed given us to be confident that his choice would be the best one?
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Post by Filo on Mar 24, 2017 20:40:59 GMT -5
I was not speaking in terms of just basketball. Perhaps Reed took the job knowing he was a ceremonial head and that BB steered the ship. Seeing how lacrosse and other sports have fallen off the cliff is it time for a new AD? Well if you are going to blame him for lacrosse and other sports I guess you also have to give him credit for both soccer teams and track/cross country.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Mar 24, 2017 20:48:49 GMT -5
Yeah, and sailing.
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Post by reformation on Mar 24, 2017 22:02:09 GMT -5
I doubt Lee Reed will have a substantial voice in the final call-he will facilitate the process. Its also unrealistic to give him credit for the perf of sailing/track as those programs have been elite for decades. Similarly he is not responsible for the cratering of lax and ball.
It seems that most sports programs at gtown are languishing and there isn't a very strategic allocation of resources in the dept--that's been the same for a long time at gtwn and hasn't really changed much under lee reed. I don't hold him responsible for most the the ath dept issues as the strategy re athletics is really set by the board/president. The AD some influence but definitely not control. I'm sure he knows for ex that a sport like lax probably needs some substantial changes, but I doubt he could make the final call re a coaching change.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 25, 2017 5:24:47 GMT -5
I was not speaking in terms of just basketball. Perhaps Reed took the job knowing he was a ceremonial head and that BB steered the ship. Seeing how lacrosse and other sports have fallen off the cliff is it time for a new AD? Well if you are going to blame him for lacrosse and other sports I guess you also have to give him credit for both soccer teams and track/cross country. I don't know about credit, but Lee is a visible supporter of the soccer teams and that counts in my book.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 25, 2017 7:58:22 GMT -5
I doubt Lee Reed will have a substantial voice in the final call-he will facilitate the process. Its also unrealistic to give him credit for the perf of sailing/track as those programs have been elite for decades. Similarly he is not responsible for the cratering of lax and ball. It seems that most sports programs at gtown are languishing and there isn't a very strategic allocation of resources in the dept--that's been the same for a long time at gtwn and hasn't really changed much under lee reed. I don't hold him responsible for most the the ath dept issues as the strategy re athletics is really set by the board/president. The AD some influence but definitely not control. I'm sure he knows for ex that a sport like lax probably needs some substantial changes, but I doubt he could make the final call re a coaching change. Think you're wrong there. You would be very surprised at what major advancements he had advocated and pushed with no support from above. I'm more concerned with the entire makeup of the search committee. I'm not comfortable with JD or Tags being the major movers in making the actual decision.
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Post by hoyaresurrection on Mar 25, 2017 23:19:14 GMT -5
I doubt Lee Reed will have a substantial voice in the final call-he will facilitate the process. Its also unrealistic to give him credit for the perf of sailing/track as those programs have been elite for decades. Similarly he is not responsible for the cratering of lax and ball. It seems that most sports programs at gtown are languishing and there isn't a very strategic allocation of resources in the dept--that's been the same for a long time at gtwn and hasn't really changed much under lee reed. I don't hold him responsible for most the the ath dept issues as the strategy re athletics is really set by the board/president. The AD some influence but definitely not control. I'm sure he knows for ex that a sport like lax probably needs some substantial changes, but I doubt he could make the final call re a coaching change. Think you're wrong there. You would be very surprised at what major advancements he had advocated and pushed with no support from above. I'm more concerned with the entire makeup of the search committee. I'm not comfortable with JD or Tags being the major movers in making the actual decision. I think Commissioner Tagliabue is smarter than anyone we could ever hope to attract around a decision like this. He's managed the top league in our country and perhaps the world for a long time. I'd put some faith in him and count our blessings that he's still attached to this program and school from his playing days. JD shouldn't be involved in this and I'm sure he's just an approval at the end as it should be.
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Post by bankshot53 on Mar 26, 2017 8:55:54 GMT -5
I tend to agree that JD needs to remove himself from the process. He's too emotionally attached to the Thompson era and Pops in particular. I am confident that Tag will act in the best interest of Georgetown and select a dynamic, forward- looking coach who respects the legacy but is independent of it.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 26, 2017 9:11:46 GMT -5
If you want him to put together a process for the decision,play a major or leading role in the offer or negotiations I'm great with that. He played a great role in rescuing the BE. Even though he left too much on the table. I'm not comfortable with a 75 yo Park ave lawyer playing a major role in the actual decision. I could be wrong, we don't know who else is on the committee. I don't want a coach who checks off all the boxes, I just want someone who will win from day one and will be there for many years.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 26, 2017 10:59:13 GMT -5
If you want him to put together a process for the decision,play a major or leading role in the offer or negotiations I'm great with that. He played a great role in rescuing the BE. Even though he left too much on the table. I'm not comfortable with a 75 yo Park ave lawyer playing a major role in the actual decision. I could be wrong, we don't know who else is on the committee. I don't want a coach who checks off all the boxes, I just want someone who will win from day one and will be there for many years. Since Tags is a prominent Hoya basketball player from his era and a current leader of the Georgetown board, I think he brings more perspective to this search than that of just a 75 year old Park Ave lawyer.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 26, 2017 12:27:54 GMT -5
I don't want a coach who checks off all the boxes, I just want someone who will win from day one and will be there for many years. I think we all want a coach who will win from day one and be here for many years. But, I am not sure that person (at least a version of that person who would take our job) exists. The closest we could probably get to that right now are Smart or Crean or Brey, and even Brey had a three year stretch where he only went to the NIT at Notre Dame.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 26, 2017 13:10:41 GMT -5
One potential concern - the bigger the name, the more pressure (and the more contention on this board) that we SHOULD win from day 1, which may be wildly unrealistic given the roster that may be inherited.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 26, 2017 13:18:24 GMT -5
One potential concern - the bigger the name, the more pressure (and the more contention on this board) that we SHOULD win from day 1, which may be wildly unrealistic given the roster that may be inherited. Unless the new coach brings recruits with him and/or re-recruits Waters and keeps everybody on the team, we aren't going to be good next year regardless of the coach.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Apr 3, 2017 12:13:45 GMT -5
I ask the following questions ingenuously:
What does Lee Reed bring to the table as AD? What are his greatest accomplishments as AD?
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Post by Cambridge on Apr 3, 2017 12:47:02 GMT -5
I ask the following questions ingenuously: What does Lee Reed bring to the table as AD? What are his greatest accomplishments as AD? I'd say successfully navigating the collapse of the old Big East, midwifing the birth of the new Big East, helping to land a Big East tv broadcasting deal and Georgetown marketing/licensing deal with FoxSports, leading the largest athletics fundraising efforts in Georgetown history (including landing some of the largest individual gifts ever given to the school), and securing the funding for the Thompson Center.
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Post by sleepy on Apr 3, 2017 13:52:28 GMT -5
Ask the question what has Lee Reed not been allowed to do. You would be very surprised, then very angry.
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Post by TC on Apr 3, 2017 14:00:38 GMT -5
I look forward to hearing someone try to explain this away as a competitive search bringing a lot of bodies to the table. What a sham.
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Post by AltoSaxa on Apr 3, 2017 14:05:15 GMT -5
This "search" was all smoke and mirrors.
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 3, 2017 14:07:02 GMT -5
This "search" was all smoke and mirrors. This episode of Kabuki Theater brought to you by Georgetown University.
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 3, 2017 14:11:27 GMT -5
Very disappointed in Tagliabue.
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