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Post by FromTheBeginning on Mar 23, 2017 14:06:36 GMT -5
Marshall's wife might have removed him from any list this past weekend - not that he'd be interested in the first place.
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Post by miamihoya on Mar 23, 2017 14:07:21 GMT -5
Seems odd that the board would overrule the pres on an operational matter without a clear plan/alternatives in place. Tagliabue and Zo I would think would have had to have been firmly committed to ousting JT3(only board members with obvious credibility on issue), otherwise it would seem the speculation on the board vs De Gioia is misplaced. Is 'Zo even on the Board of Directors anymore? www.georgetown.edu/about/board-of-directors
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Post by TC on Mar 23, 2017 14:08:16 GMT -5
Seems odd that the board would overrule the pres on an operational matter without a clear plan/alternatives in place. Tagliabue and Zo I would think would have had to have been firmly committed to ousting JT3(only board members with obvious credibility on issue), otherwise it would seem the speculation on the board vs De Gioia is misplaced. Is 'Zo even on the Board of Directors anymore? www.georgetown.edu/about/board-of-directorsHe's listed on the Working Group on Athletics.
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Post by gujake on Mar 23, 2017 14:10:55 GMT -5
I think you're short-changing King Rice, whose teams failed to make the NCAAs because of MAAC tournament losses, and not because of regular season failures (that doesn't mean I want him, just that I wouldn't discount him as a candidate). Agree with this. In my view, coaches should be judged mostly on how much they improve the program they're at. Monmouth was a 300+ KenPom the last few years before Rice got there. And, while it took him some time, he improved them into a top 100 team the last two seasons. He's not my first choice, but I like Rice a lot more than some of the other names getting thrown around.
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Post by guru on Mar 23, 2017 14:11:18 GMT -5
It wasn't the "groundswell of support" that got JT3 fired. Both the President & AD were firmly behind keeping JT3. It was the Board seeing the downfall of "Georgetown basketball". Tremont Waters wanting his release & players possibly transferring was the final straw for the Board. The Board overruled the President & AD and fired JT3. I'm aware of what's being said in the other thread, but are there any attributed sources for this? DeGoia's statement certainly reads that way
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Post by centercourt400s on Mar 23, 2017 14:12:44 GMT -5
Sad, sad day. Its a shame it came to this. Thanks to Coach Thompson for being the man that he is and for always being ethically above reproach. If nothing else, Georgetown needs to maintain the standard set by the Thompsons for running a clean and honest program. Good luck JT3.
Let's hope this all leads to better days and a rejuvenated team. I'd really like to get back to hearing positive news about the Hoyas.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 23, 2017 14:20:31 GMT -5
Rumors about Geno Auriemma. Seriously, where do these rumors start? I love Geno would be better than some I have seen posted. Knows the AAU circuit and might just be able to keep Waters. But not happening
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Post by sead43 on Mar 23, 2017 14:22:39 GMT -5
I'm aware of what's being said in the other thread, but are there any attributed sources for this? DeGoia's statement certainly reads that way As does JTIII's. He goes out of his way to thank DeGioia and Reed for their "unwavering support" and "strong and public affirmation" respectively.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 23, 2017 14:25:34 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 23, 2017 14:27:13 GMT -5
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Post by smokeyjack on Mar 23, 2017 14:27:53 GMT -5
DeGoia's statement certainly reads that way As does JTIII's. He goes out of his way to thank DeGioia and Reed for their "unwavering support" and "strong and public affirmation" respectively. Honestly, that would be the most convenient way of couching it for the public so that everyone saves face. This was a tough one, but the university will likely never be in a more difficult corner with a coach. And this proves without a shadow of a doubt that money was never really an issue. Nor should it be. I don't usually buy into the "we're better than that or different than others" mentality, but it was ludicrous to think we would allow the brand to deteriorate for another season or two over a few million dollars.
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Post by michaeldm9 on Mar 23, 2017 14:28:28 GMT -5
Ok. Now you get what you ask for all you crazies. Open is the door to, Probation, scandals, banning etc. Change doesn't always equate to Wins. A coach don't get dumb overnight. This program will never be the same.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 23, 2017 14:29:15 GMT -5
If we get Shaka we probably could get Tremont back. Whom I like more than Coleman.... How are we gonna get Shaka when we have to pay III 3.5 million a year and Shaka is 2.9 mil going up to 3.4 under his stress contract in a few years. The more likely scenario is hiring a coach that is cheap. And that is why we will have a very good chance of doing this all over again in 3 or 4 years.
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Post by hoya10 on Mar 23, 2017 14:32:46 GMT -5
Ok. Now you get what you ask for all you crazies. Open is the door to, Probation, scandals, banning etc. Change doesn't always equate to Wins. A coach don't get dumb overnight. This program will never be the same. Oh please. The Thompsons aren't uniquely able to run a clean program. And in terms of wins, we weren't going to have any for the foreseeable future anyway.
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Post by michaeldm9 on Mar 23, 2017 14:35:35 GMT -5
Ok. Now you get what you ask for all you crazies. Open is the door to, Probation, scandals, banning etc. Change doesn't always equate to Wins. A coach don't get dumb overnight. This program will never be the same. Oh please. The Thompsons aren't uniquely able to run a clean program. And in terms of wins, we weren't going to have any for the foreseeable future anyway. We shall see. The only success that GTown has seen has been under Thompson control. But again we shall see. I will return to the post Next year and peek in and see how things are going.
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Post by smokeyjack on Mar 23, 2017 14:35:56 GMT -5
How are we gonna get Shaka when we have to pay III 3.5 million a year and Shaka is 2.9 mil going up to 3.4 under his stress contract in a few years. The more likely scenario is hiring a coach that is cheap. And that is why we will have a very good chance of doing this all over again in 3 or 4 years. That is absolutely true. You don't know if the new hire will be the answer. It is an unknown. But you know JT3 wasn't the answer. That had been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. It's awkward. It's not easy. And the future is unknown. But we now have the one thing that had been missing for a long time on the Hilltop.....HOPE!!!!!
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Post by wolveribe on Mar 23, 2017 14:37:27 GMT -5
Ok. Now you get what you ask for all you crazies. Open is the door to, Probation, scandals, banning etc. Change doesn't always equate to Wins. A coach don't get dumb overnight. This program will never be the same. The game of basketball constantly changes. You have to continue to adjust strategy as coaches adapt to the style/rules of the game. JT3 is not a dumb coach, but he knows the system that he learned a long time ago and was never able to adjust his style to how the game is played today. Hopefully, he goes somewhere and can adapt.
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Post by wolveribe on Mar 23, 2017 14:38:53 GMT -5
Oh please. The Thompsons aren't uniquely able to run a clean program. And in terms of wins, we weren't going to have any for the foreseeable future anyway. We shall see. The only success that GTown has seen has been under Thompson control. But again we shall see. I will return to the post Next year and peek in and see how things are going. They've been the coaches for for all but 5 years out of 45 years.
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Post by michaeldm9 on Mar 23, 2017 14:41:57 GMT -5
We shall see. The only success that GTown has seen has been under Thompson control. But again we shall see. I will return to the post Next year and peek in and see how things are going. They've been the coaches for for all but 5 years out of 45 years. All I can say is well shall see. The change has been made the multiple 20 win seaosn, constant big east championships and NCAA appearances are on there way.
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Post by This Just In on Mar 23, 2017 14:44:10 GMT -5
Ok. Now you get what you ask for all you crazies. Open is the door to, Probation, scandals, banning etc. Change doesn't always equate to Wins. A coach don't get dumb overnight. This program will never be the same.Look at JTIII' New Big East record, the program slippage has not happened over night. It has been going on for several years which culminated into JTIII leaving the program.
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