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Post by vv83 on Mar 17, 2017 22:33:04 GMT -5
I have not watched South Carolina play this year until tonight vs. Marquette - PJ Dozier is really good. He is flying all over the court, pushing the tempo, scoring, making plays for teammates, etc. It would have been really nice to have seen him in a Georgetown uniform. I thought S. carolina was making a mistake playing at Marquette's fast tempo, but S. Carolina was great. They kept the pedal down the full game, and are now blowing Marquette out with under 4 minutes left. They played with great aggressiveness on both ends - it was like a different sport from what we have been watching with the hoyas for the past 2 years. Frank Martin may be a bit of a nutcase, but he had his team completely ready to compete tonight. And Marquette is even worse then us defensively, they offered almost no resistance.
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Post by hoya95 on Mar 17, 2017 22:49:33 GMT -5
Pretty sure Marquette would have lost anyway, but I have no idea how South Carolina gets a home game as a 7 seed.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 17, 2017 22:54:41 GMT -5
Pretty sure Marquette would have lost anyway, but I have no idea how South Carolina gets a home game as a 7 seed. Amen. Marquette kind of fell apart, but there's really no excuse for letting a state school play in their home state if there's any alternative at all. It's been an issue for seemingly forever. That JaJuan Johnson kid will be a thorn in our side next year though. He's got a nice game.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Mar 17, 2017 23:38:14 GMT -5
Pretty sure Marquette would have lost anyway, but I have no idea how South Carolina gets a home game as a 7 seed. Amen. Marquette kind of fell apart, but there's really no excuse for letting a state school play in their home state if there's any alternative at all. It's been an issue for seemingly forever. That JaJuan Johnson kid will be a thorn in our side next year though. He's got a nice game. Mick Cronin is right. The tournament committee don't naturally place teams based on the record or season profile but based on if they can sell tickets. No way South Carolina should have gotten basically a home game against Marquette. I hate Duke with a passion but as a 2 seed they got screwed having to play South Carolina in South Carolina. That being I said I hope South Carolina beats the crap out of Duke in this quasi home game. No need to worry about JaJuan Johnson. He's a senior and is done eligibility wise.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 5:51:27 GMT -5
Didn't these Greenville games get moved out of NC because of the "bathroom bill"?
Not that the committee had to put SC there, but even if these games had stayed in NC, there's a significant geographical advantage for SC fans vs Marquette fans.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 18, 2017 5:59:38 GMT -5
Amen. Marquette kind of fell apart, but there's really no excuse for letting a state school play in their home state if there's any alternative at all. It's been an issue for seemingly forever. That JaJuan Johnson kid will be a thorn in our side next year though. He's got a nice game. Mick Cronin is right. The tournament committee don't naturally place teams based on the record or season profile but based on if they can sell tickets. No way South Carolina should have gotten basically a home game against Marquette. I hate Duke with a passion but as a 2 seed they got screwed having to play South Carolina in South Carolina. That being I said I hope South Carolina beats the crap out of Duke in this quasi home game. No need to worry about JaJuan Johnson. He's a senior and is done eligibility wise. How fans travel and how well the school travels are significant factors in the seeding process. St the end of the day it's a money making businesse. As sat as Duke. This is one of those "we are penalizing Duke were fair, see" but the reality is that SC is a stones throw away from Duke so there will be like advantage for SC. It's not like Duke is playing at a non neutral court half way around the country.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 18, 2017 8:35:52 GMT -5
Basically if Butler wins today, this is the first "Cinderella-less" tournament I can remember. I guess if you squint URI over an injured Oregon team or USC over a flawed Baylor team counts but I don't recall so few surprises in any tournament. Even MTSU won last year and Minnesota is in its first tournament in 5 years so that's not even that big an upset.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 18, 2017 9:15:40 GMT -5
Basically if Butler wins today, this is the first "Cinderella-less" tournament I can remember. I guess if you squint URI over an injured Oregon team or USC over a flawed Baylor team counts but I don't recall so few surprises in any tournament. Even MTSU won last year and Minnesota is in its first tournament in 5 years so that's not even that big an upset. Yeah it's been a pretty straight forward higher seed wins. And the "upsets" like MTSU over an overseeded Minnesota and X over Maryland were almost a given. I guess if Wisconsin beats Villanova that would be considered an upset but it really isn't that far fetched since Wisconsin is actually pretty good talent wise. Northwest's, St Mary's, MtSu are the only real cinderellas left. Michigan Wichita state and X are the fake Cinderella S but will be called Cinderella if they keep winning.
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Post by hoyainla on Mar 18, 2017 9:47:48 GMT -5
Pretty sure Marquette would have lost anyway, but I have no idea how South Carolina gets a home game as a 7 seed. Amen. Marquette kind of fell apart, but there's really no excuse for letting a state school play in their home state if there's any alternative at all. It's been an issue for seemingly forever. That JaJuan Johnson kid will be a thorn in our side next year though. He's got a nice game. Not accounting for the fact JJ is gone, can we really have a "thorn in our side" when we are this bad? Do you think DePaul fans say that anyone is a thorn in their side?
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 18, 2017 9:59:22 GMT -5
Amen. Marquette kind of fell apart, but there's really no excuse for letting a state school play in their home state if there's any alternative at all. It's been an issue for seemingly forever. That JaJuan Johnson kid will be a thorn in our side next year though. He's got a nice game. Not accounting for the fact JJ is gone, can we really have a "thorn in our side" when we are this bad? Do you think DePaul fans say that anyone is a thorn in their side? Well, optimism reigns supreme. And we beat Marquette once (handily) this year. Not sure where I got the idea Johnson was an underclassman though.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Mar 18, 2017 11:14:29 GMT -5
Come on, Badgers, cheer me up.
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Post by drquigley on Mar 18, 2017 11:15:03 GMT -5
Was at the Marquette win this year and thought it was our best game. Left Verizon thinking, like many Hoya fans did, that we could easily win our next 4 games since we looked so good against Marquette - a team that beat Nova. But it was all a mirage. Marquette can shoot 3's but that's about it. And they don't play defense so we looked unusually good.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 18, 2017 12:51:26 GMT -5
I dislike W. Va rather intensely. Not 'Cuse intensely, but they're up there. Sorry to see them outmuscling ND so far.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 18, 2017 13:05:00 GMT -5
I dislike W. Va rather intensely. Not 'Cuse intensely, but they're up there. Sorry to see them outmuscling ND so far. Although I share your dislike for WV, I want to see as many ACC teams as possible not make it out of the first weekend.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 18, 2017 13:05:48 GMT -5
I dislike W. Va rather intensely. Not 'Cuse intensely, but they're up there. Sorry to see them outmuscling ND so far. I as well, especially their fans. But you can't knock their defensive intensity which we sorely lack by either desire or capability, it doesn't really matter.
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Post by HoNYaSaxa on Mar 18, 2017 13:27:21 GMT -5
I dislike W. Va rather intensely. Not 'Cuse intensely, but they're up there. Sorry to see them outmuscling ND so far. I as well, especially their fans. But you can't knock their defensive intensity which we sorely lack by either desire or capability, it doesn't really matter. Same here, but I loved the matter of fact response that Huggins delivered on sidelines when he was asked "You don't have long, but how are you going to celebrate heading to the Sweet 16?" -- "I'm gonna go recruit." That's the mentality.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 18, 2017 13:27:38 GMT -5
Reporter asked Bob Huggins how he was going to celebrate his sweet 16 victory, his response was.. "I'm gonna go recruit"
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 18, 2017 13:27:49 GMT -5
Since we beat WV in the NIT, pretty sure they've gone to the S16 twice. I don't like them or Huggins either, but they made adjustments and have come back as a good program. Sigh.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 18, 2017 13:31:02 GMT -5
I dislike W. Va rather intensely. Not 'Cuse intensely, but they're up there. Sorry to see them outmuscling ND so far. I as well, especially their fans. But you can't knock their defensive intensity which we sorely lack by either desire or capability, it doesn't really matter. They play hard for Huggie. Does he wear that "coaching outfit"" to bed? But some of their fans are undeserving and unfortunately play into negative stereotypes about the state. The aftermath of the PE Jr. "no goaltending" game in Morgantown was not pretty and soured me on them.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Mar 18, 2017 13:37:04 GMT -5
They knocked the Pittsnoggle out of ND.
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