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Post by eagle54 on Mar 7, 2017 23:30:48 GMT -5
"Once such a statement is made this is no longer a story - at least until next season." Want to bet? In news media? Yes. I don't expect the fan base who wants to get rid of JT3 to stop, since they've been constantly beating the drum for a long time already. In my opinion, once a decision is made, the fan base needs to try to come together and support the team. If JT3 is retained another year, whining, complaining, and making the same tired arguments isn't going to help anybody. What about your senseless defense of this performance and citing us becoming DePaul, not having a choice as no one can fire this guy and we just have to accept it. Do we still have to listen to that which seems much more tiresome than the logic that is being applied here by those that care to get this program where it needs to be.
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Post by This Just In on Mar 7, 2017 23:54:59 GMT -5
In news media? Yes. I don't expect the fan base who wants to get rid of JT3 to stop, since they've been constantly beating the drum for a long time already. In my opinion, once a decision is made, the fan base needs to try to come together and support the team. If JT3 is retained another year, whining, complaining, and making the same tired arguments isn't going to help anybody. What about your senseless defense of this performance and citing us becoming DePaul, not having a choice as no one can fire this guy and we just have to accept it. Do we still have to listen to that which seems much more tiresome than the logic that is being applied here by those that care to get this program where it needs to be. You gotta let it play out for the following reasons: 1. JTIII has not won consecutive games since the end of Jan. 31, over 30 days 2. JTIII has won 1 game since the end of Jan 31, over 30 days 3. JTIII is looking at ending the season a 6 gm losing streak, over 21 days 4. JTIII has lost 7 of the last 8 games, over 30 days 5. JTIII has not won consecutive games in the BET, NIT, NCAA's since 2010, over 7 years The season ends either Wed or Thurs barring a miracle and then there should be an announcement If the season ends on a 6 game losing streak and losing the last 8 of 9 games JTIII's survival gotta be around 50%, and probably goes down depending on if and how St. Johns wins (i.e. double digits) So if JTIII survives that then God is on his side, go get the situation fixed, but know the spotlight will be very hot for 2017/2018 season
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Post by eagle54 on Mar 8, 2017 0:01:07 GMT -5
What about your senseless defense of this performance and citing us becoming DePaul, not having a choice as no one can fire this guy and we just have to accept it. Do we still have to listen to that which seems much more tiresome than the logic that is being applied here by those that care to get this program where it needs to be. You gotta let it play out for the following reasons: 1. JTIII has not won consecutive games since the end of Jan. 31, over 30 days 2. JTIII has won 1 game since the end of Jan 31, over 30 days 3. JTIII is looking at ending the season a 6 gm losing streak, over 21 days 4. JTIII has lost 7 of the last 8 games, over 30 days 5. JTIII has not won consecutive games in the BET, NIT, NCAA's since 2010, over 7 years The season ends either Wed or Thurs barring a miracle and then there should be an announcement If the season ends on a 6 game losing streak and losing the last 8 of 9 games JTIII's survival gotta be around 50%, and probably goes down depending on if and how St. Johns wins (i.e. double digits) So if JTIII survives that then God is on his side, go get the situation fixed, but know the spotlight will be very hot for 2017/2018 season His body language is terrible and he doesn't have a system that can work. If we bring him back for another year there better be a reincarnation of AI as that's the only thing that didn't make JT2's 90's looks as bad as they really were.
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Post by This Just In on Mar 8, 2017 0:08:17 GMT -5
You gotta let it play out for the following reasons: 1. JTIII has not won consecutive games since the end of Jan. 31, over 30 days 2. JTIII has won 1 game since the end of Jan 31, over 30 days 3. JTIII is looking at ending the season a 6 gm losing streak, over 21 days 4. JTIII has lost 7 of the last 8 games, over 30 days 5. JTIII has not won consecutive games in the BET, NIT, NCAA's since 2010, over 7 years The season ends either Wed or Thurs barring a miracle and then there should be an announcement If the season ends on a 6 game losing streak and losing the last 8 of 9 games JTIII's survival gotta be around 50%, and probably goes down depending on if and how St. Johns wins (i.e. double digits) So if JTIII survives that then God is on his side, go get the situation fixed, but know the spotlight will be very hot for 2017/2018 season His body language is terrible and he doesn't have a system that can work. If we bring him back for another year there better be a reincarnation of AI as that's the only thing that didn't make JT2's 90's looks as bad as they really were. That '96 team also had Frosh Victor Page and a Senior Othella Harrington, and the "JYD" Jerome Williams 2 of the 3 ended up in the NBA although they were all 2nd fiddle to Iverson, that team had some talent That team had 2-1st rounders and a 2nd rounder in 3 of the 5 spots in the starting lineup
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Post by arlingtonhoya05 on Mar 8, 2017 0:13:34 GMT -5
The Thompson apologists are wading into Spicer territory.
What exactly did SVP say that is incorrect? He recited fact after fact after fact.
Did you guys know SVP graduated from Maryland??? Has to be fake news!
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Post by eagle54 on Mar 8, 2017 0:16:56 GMT -5
His body language is terrible and he doesn't have a system that can work. If we bring him back for another year there better be a reincarnation of AI as that's the only thing that didn't make JT2's 90's looks as bad as they really were. That '96 team also had Frosh Victor Page and a Senior Othella Harrington, and the "JYD" Jerome Williams 2 of the 3 ended up in the NBA although they were all 2nd fiddle to Iverson, that team had some talent That team had 2-1st rounders and a 2nd rounder in 3 of the 5 spots in the starting lineup Othella was a nice player but wouldn't have won anything on the collegiate level on his own. JYD was a really good player because he could do everything and at his size that was tough for opponents to deal with. Victor Page was exposed once Iverson left as a player with some highlights but wasn't going to win anything. Basically Iverson came in and made the team exciting for two years. In 2006, they lost to UMASS but that could have been the year as they had the talent to go further than elite 8. There were some nice pieces around him in those years. However, without Iverson that team isn't even a memory and that's what this kid next year will need to be to overcome what we are up against. However, the cast around here now isn't as talented as those players from that era.
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Mar 8, 2017 1:33:09 GMT -5
The Thompson apologists are wading into Spicer territory. What exactly did SVP say that is incorrect? He recited fact after fact after fact. Did you guys know SVP graduated from Maryland??? Has to be fake news! I guess SVP Sports Center also shares some kinda hidden "agenda," according to some people on this board on the side note, who was the first guy to raise this "agenda" here on this board, the name of the poster we cannot refer, the Voldemort of HT
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 8, 2017 7:57:21 GMT -5
Victor was a force. Did not have a supporting cast in his last year.
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Post by This Just In on Mar 8, 2017 8:10:59 GMT -5
The Thompson apologists are wading into Spicer territory. What exactly did SVP say that is incorrect? He recited fact after fact after fact. Did you guys know SVP graduated from Maryland??? Has to be fake news! I guess SVP Sports Center also shares some kinda hidden "agenda," according to some people on this board on the side note, who was the first guy to raise this "agenda" here on this board, the name of the poster we cannot refer, the Voldemort of HT Are your referring to RDF?
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Post by This Just In on Mar 8, 2017 8:11:53 GMT -5
Victor was a force. Did not have a supporting cast in his last year. And left school a year too early. Page's game was not as polished as Iverson's
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Post by miracles87 on Mar 8, 2017 8:23:54 GMT -5
That '96 team also had Frosh Victor Page and a Senior Othella Harrington, and the "JYD" Jerome Williams 2 of the 3 ended up in the NBA although they were all 2nd fiddle to Iverson, that team had some talent That team had 2-1st rounders and a 2nd rounder in 3 of the 5 spots in the starting lineup Othella was a nice player but wouldn't have won anything on the collegiate level on his own. JYD was a really good player because he could do everything and at his size that was tough for opponents to deal with. Victor Page was exposed once Iverson left as a player with some highlights but wasn't going to win anything. Basically Iverson came in and made the team exciting for two years. In 2006, they lost to UMASS but that could have been the year as they had the talent to go further than elite 8. There were some nice pieces around him in those years. However, without Iverson that team isn't even a memory and that's what this kid next year will need to be to overcome what we are up against. However, the cast around here now isn't as talented as those players from that era. Othella Harrington was one of the best big men we have ever had here at GTown. He wasn't a supreme rim protector, nor was he a top flight athlete at the college level, but he was a helluva basketball player, had a tremendous array of offensive skills around the basket, and would have made almost any GTown team in history better by his presence. Othella on this team would probably net us at least four wins. As far as Victor, he must be the only person in GTown's history whose limitations were "exposed" by averaging over 20 points per game. Page was big, strong, had incredible ups, was a terror in the open floor, and had s nice jumper.
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Post by seaweed on Mar 8, 2017 8:25:37 GMT -5
The Thompson apologists are wading into Spicer territory. What exactly did SVP say that is incorrect? He recited fact after fact after fact. Did you guys know SVP graduated from Maryland??? Has to be fake news! nobody said he lied. we just don't care what he thinks. we know the facts and experience each loss with the same visceral pain other fans do. we just don't kvetch and complain like brats at each on court set back. we probably also value off the court success and integrity more that the "where are my wins" crowd.
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Post by hoyarad on Mar 8, 2017 11:03:01 GMT -5
Othella was a nice player but wouldn't have won anything on the collegiate level on his own. JYD was a really good player because he could do everything and at his size that was tough for opponents to deal with. Victor Page was exposed once Iverson left as a player with some highlights but wasn't going to win anything. Basically Iverson came in and made the team exciting for two years. In 2006, they lost to UMASS but that could have been the year as they had the talent to go further than elite 8. There were some nice pieces around him in those years. However, without Iverson that team isn't even a memory and that's what this kid next year will need to be to overcome what we are up against. However, the cast around here now isn't as talented as those players from that era. Othella Harrington was one of the best big men we have ever had here at GTown. He wasn't a supreme rim protector, nor was he a top flight athlete at the college level, but he was a helluva basketball player, had a tremendous array of offensive skills around the basket, and would have made almost any GTown team in history better by his presence. Othella on this team would probably net us at least four wins. As far as Victor, he must be the only person in GTown's history whose limitations were "exposed" by averaging over 20 points per game. Page was big, strong, had incredible ups, was a terror in the open floor, and had s nice jumper. Have to agree with this. Othella was a beast. If ONLY we had an Othella on this team.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Mar 8, 2017 12:15:09 GMT -5
Presumably he has a contract which will be in effect after this year. No one in any official capacity has even discussed the subject of retention/dismissal. Maybe they just do it the Georgetown way and say nothing. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. If they are disposed to keep him why (playing devil's advocate) would they go out of their way to address something they demonstrably believe is a non-issue? And, if they did, would anyone expect anything less than a ringing endorsement?
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 8, 2017 13:16:51 GMT -5
Presumably he has a contract which will be in effect after this year. No one in any official capacity has even discussed the subject of retention/dismissal. Maybe they just do it the Georgetown way and say nothing. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. If they are disposed to keep him why (playing devil's advocate) would they go out of their way to address something they demonstrably believe is a non-issue? And, if they did, would anyone expect anything less than a ringing endorsement? It would not entirely shock me if they said nothing. However, given the media reports and the fan fury over this, I think if JT3 stays, that it is imperative that the university make it clear they are supporting him. Why? If he remains, JT3 will need to recruit heavily for the 2018 class, and recruits will be much less likely to commit or show interest if they think the coach is going to be fired. And from a practical perspective, if you got a new coach, you'd want him recruiting ASAP, too. So either way, they need to say something.
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Post by beenaround on Mar 8, 2017 13:29:48 GMT -5
That '96 team also had Frosh Victor Page and a Senior Othella Harrington, and the "JYD" Jerome Williams 2 of the 3 ended up in the NBA although they were all 2nd fiddle to Iverson, that team had some talent That team had 2-1st rounders and a 2nd rounder in 3 of the 5 spots in the starting lineup Othella was a nice player but wouldn't have won anything on the collegiate level on his own. JYD was a really good player because he could do everything and at his size that was tough for opponents to deal with. Victor Page was exposed once Iverson left as a player with some highlights but wasn't going to win anything. Basically Iverson came in and made the team exciting for two years. In 2006, they lost to UMASS but that could have been the year as they had the talent to go further than elite 8. There were some nice pieces around him in those years. However, without Iverson that team isn't even a memory and that's what this kid next year will need to be to overcome what we are up against. However, the cast around here now isn't as talented as those players from that era. That team that lost to Umass ( not one of JT2's best coaching jobs) was one of the better ones in Hoyas history, and not just cuz of AI. I'm tired of reading that on this board. AI had a VERY STRONG supporting cast. Othella played 11 NBA seasons, JYD 9 seasons and backup big Jahidi White played 7 years. Page averaged 22.7 the year AFTER Iverson left and I'd argue the Hoyas have not had a more physically talented guard since he left the program. An NBA talent, but obvious personal issues. I think we'd all be quite pleased today to have ONLY Othella, Jerome, Jahidi and Victor on the team today.
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Post by Cambridge on Mar 8, 2017 14:24:19 GMT -5
That team that lost to Umass ( not one of JT2's best coaching jobs) was one of the better ones in Hoyas history, and not just cuz of AI. On the bright side, that loss actually never happened...
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Post by the_way on Mar 8, 2017 15:12:56 GMT -5
Othella was a nice player but wouldn't have won anything on the collegiate level on his own. JYD was a really good player because he could do everything and at his size that was tough for opponents to deal with. Victor Page was exposed once Iverson left as a player with some highlights but wasn't going to win anything. Basically Iverson came in and made the team exciting for two years. In 2006, they lost to UMASS but that could have been the year as they had the talent to go further than elite 8. There were some nice pieces around him in those years. However, without Iverson that team isn't even a memory and that's what this kid next year will need to be to overcome what we are up against. However, the cast around here now isn't as talented as those players from that era. Othella Harrington was one of the best big men we have ever had here at GTown. He wasn't a supreme rim protector, nor was he a top flight athlete at the college level, but he was a helluva basketball player, had a tremendous array of offensive skills around the basket, and would have made almost any GTown team in history better by his presence. Othella on this team would probably net us at least four wins. As far as Victor, he must be the only person in GTown's history whose limitations were "exposed" by averaging over 20 points per game. Page was big, strong, had incredible ups, was a terror in the open floor, and had s nice jumper. Page was great. People forget, Page was the MVP of the 1996 Big East tournament despite the fact we lost to UCONN in the championship. He was the man in that game. JT2 later admitted he regretted afterward not giving the last shot to Page at the end because he had the hot hand for most of the game. He also carried the 1996-1997 team to an NCAA berth. Othella had heart and he had smarts. Nice soft touch with his shot. He just didn't have much athleticism. He had a solid career here. Good teammate and great leader.
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Post by vv83 on Mar 8, 2017 18:51:15 GMT -5
Othella was a nice player but wouldn't have won anything on the collegiate level on his own. JYD was a really good player because he could do everything and at his size that was tough for opponents to deal with. Victor Page was exposed once Iverson left as a player with some highlights but wasn't going to win anything. Basically Iverson came in and made the team exciting for two years. In 2006, they lost to UMASS but that could have been the year as they had the talent to go further than elite 8. There were some nice pieces around him in those years. However, without Iverson that team isn't even a memory and that's what this kid next year will need to be to overcome what we are up against. However, the cast around here now isn't as talented as those players from that era. That team that lost to Umass ( not one of JT2's best coaching jobs) was one of the better ones in Hoyas history, and not just cuz of AI. I'm tired of reading that on this board. AI had a VERY STRONG supporting cast. Othella played 11 NBA seasons, JYD 9 seasons and backup big Jahidi White played 7 years. Page averaged 22.7 the year AFTER Iverson left and I'd argue the Hoyas have not had a more physically talented guard since he left the program. An NBA talent, but obvious personal issues. I think we'd all be quite pleased today to have ONLY Othella, Jerome, Jahidi and Victor on the team today. Boubacar Aw was also on that team. Always a really strong defender, he brought a little bit more offense his senior year. he averaged over 11 points and almost 6 boards, and shot over 51% (mostly right around the basket). We went 6 deep with really solid college players, including an NBA hall of famer, 2 guys who had long and productive NBA careers, another big time talent whose personal issues ended up getting in the way of what would have quite possibly been a pro career, and a really solid senior defensive specialist. Iverson was great, but he had a strong supporting cast. That team really could have won a championship.
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Post by richfame on Mar 9, 2017 6:45:08 GMT -5
I guess SVP Sports Center also shares some kinda hidden "agenda," according to some people on this board on the side note, who was the first guy to raise this "agenda" here on this board, the name of the poster we cannot refer, the Voldemort of HT Are your referring to RDF? Anyone know what RDF or balla think about all this hiya garbage?
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