McBricks
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Post by McBricks on Mar 4, 2017 14:19:43 GMT -5
Mission accomplished. If we beat St. John's, Nova will be wildly overconfident and complacent. Now that's an interesting theory!
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deacon
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Post by deacon on Mar 4, 2017 14:20:23 GMT -5
Just so we are clear that's a failure of this staff too, correct? I don't think the talent is as deficient as you do but either way our inability to play decent basketball comes back to JT3. Poor facilities + tough academics = difficult environment to recruit. Excuses, excuses, excuses.
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bamahoya11
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Post by bamahoya11 on Mar 4, 2017 14:20:27 GMT -5
Pretty embarrassing ending. We played hard for 30 minutes or so but the wheels came off at the end. Hard to believe this is reality now.
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deacon
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Post by deacon on Mar 4, 2017 14:21:09 GMT -5
Pathetic, embarrassing, enough.
Time to move on.
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guru
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Post by guru on Mar 4, 2017 14:21:48 GMT -5
He really should resign after the loss to St. John's
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deacon
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Post by deacon on Mar 4, 2017 14:22:40 GMT -5
Pretty embarrassing ending. We played hard for 30 minutes or so but the wheels came off at the end. Hard to believe this is reality now. We're not in the same stratosphere as Villanova as a program and that's enough for me but what happened today should be the nail. Enough is enough.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 4, 2017 14:22:59 GMT -5
All we need to do to finish above .500 is run the BET and take a game in the first round of the NCAA tournament. I like our chances. Well if we win the BET (even the thought makes me laugh out loud), we will get a playing game against another #11, so there is a chance!!😁
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Post by strummer8526 on Mar 4, 2017 14:23:24 GMT -5
This. We used to recruit players with basketball sense. The primary reason we need a new coach is the stunning inability to evaluate and recruit players. agreed but that is on the staff more so than coach. in any case miserable failure across the board. You don't really need a ton of basketball IQ to know not to throw the Editeding ball out of bounds, or run into your own teammate, or foul a three-point shooter, or do any of the other 7,000 asinine things we seem to do game-in and game-out. What you do need is a coach who emphasizes fundamentals, demands precision, and for the love of all that is good and holy, implements something even resembling a coherent or effective offensive OR defensive scheme.
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Mar 4, 2017 14:23:32 GMT -5
Fitting end to this season. Players just give up in frustration the last 5 minutes. I hope that JT III does not allow ego to keep him from leaving. This was as poor a team fundamentally as each of the past few years. Nothing has improved.
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Post by jld54 on Mar 4, 2017 14:27:45 GMT -5
This is a truly sad situation. This looked like the A team running through their plays with a scout squad of walk-ons.
To see what is by all measures a peer school -- Northeast Catholic school with solid (if not great) academics, etc. -- absolutely destroy the Hoyas on Senior day on national TV is beyond depressing. No excuses at any level -- Administration, AD, and coaching staff.
I will not bash this group of student athletes for this state of affairs. This group was put together by this staff, and I do not know anything about these guys as human beings to assert that they are doing anything other than trying their best under miserable circumstances.
This has been the same state of affairs for 3 of the last 4 years, and when we had better talent, we had a string of NCAA failures. To see the utter deterioration of a program like GU is incomprehensible to me, having come to GU the same year as JT2.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 4, 2017 14:29:11 GMT -5
I don't think I can say a single player on our team (1)is better than he was last year, or (2)improved during the course of the season - MAYBE Akoy, but I think that was almost entirely a function of his injury improving.
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Post by jld54 on Mar 4, 2017 14:30:50 GMT -5
I've been watching Georgetown for over 50 years. I think this was the worst game I have ever seen. You have me by 5 years. Absolute worse since 1972-73. 44 years. Truly sad. Nothing more to be said.
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Post by strummer8526 on Mar 4, 2017 14:32:53 GMT -5
I don't think I can say a single player on our team (1)is better than he was last year, or (2)improved during the course of the season - MAYBE Akoy, but I think that was almost entirely a function of his injury improving. If anyone responds to this by saying that Roy f-ing Hibbert improved while at Georgetown 10 years ago, I will lose my mind. The number of players we have seen stagnate or regress in the last 5-7 seasons is insane. And I am sure there have been instances where highly-touted and high-ranked recruits were actually just not as good as their numbers suggested (e.g., Domingo). But there is no possible way that every top-100 guy that III brought in was actually just an underskilled, unathletic, lazy dunderhead. Something about our program--whether it be what we emphasize in practice, our X's and O's strategy, our expectations about player focus and energy, or something else--has caused player after player to come in with high hopes and leave looking like a disappointment.
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bamahoya11
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Post by bamahoya11 on Mar 4, 2017 14:34:10 GMT -5
It's hard for me to see how one could watch the game today and not see the need for a change at the helm. The contrast between the top of our league and the bottom couldn't be more striking. It's one thing to lose to a team like Villanova and another thing entirely to lose by 26 points on your home floor. This program and its fans deserve better.
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hoyainla
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Post by hoyainla on Mar 4, 2017 14:35:02 GMT -5
There are some fire Thompson chants but they are drowned out by loud music and happy Nova fans. Nova is just showing off now. Smart and savvy Nova fans doing their part to keep JT3.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 4, 2017 14:36:17 GMT -5
It's hard for me to see how one could watch the game today and not see the need for a change at the helm. The contrast between the top of our league and the bottom couldn't be more striking. It's one thing to lose to a team like Villanova and another thing entirely to lose by 26 points on your home floor. This program and its fans deserve better. When change comes with a $9 million price tag, it's a different discussion.
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bamahoya11
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Post by bamahoya11 on Mar 4, 2017 14:37:40 GMT -5
I don't think I can say a single player on our team (1)is better than he was last year, or (2)improved during the course of the season - MAYBE Akoy, but I think that was almost entirely a function of his injury improving. It's hard to see improvement. I mean Peak started out better than last year but took a step back late, probably due to how much he was asked to do. Akoy and Kaleb seem a little better than at the start of the year, but both of them were hurt early. But I don't see a cohesive team. It's like everyone tries to do too much and no one relies on each other. We are no more cohesive now than we were at the start of last season.
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hoyarad
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Post by hoyarad on Mar 4, 2017 14:39:58 GMT -5
I don't think I can say a single player on our team (1)is better than he was last year, or (2)improved during the course of the season - MAYBE Akoy, but I think that was almost entirely a function of his injury improving. It's hard to see improvement. I mean Peak started out better than last year but took a step back late, probably due to how much he was asked to do. Akoy and Kaleb seem a little better than at the start of the year, but both of them were hurt early. But I don't see a cohesive team. It's like everyone tries to do too much and no one relies on each other. We are no more cohesive now than we were at the start of last season. And we play laughable defense.
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bamahoya11
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Post by bamahoya11 on Mar 4, 2017 14:40:43 GMT -5
It's hard for me to see how one could watch the game today and not see the need for a change at the helm. The contrast between the top of our league and the bottom couldn't be more striking. It's one thing to lose to a team like Villanova and another thing entirely to lose by 26 points on your home floor. This program and its fans deserve better. When change comes with a $9 million price tag, it's a different discussion. I won't be writing the check, that's true. But I don't see any objective basis in terms of on court product to stay the course. I wholeheartedly agree that the complaints about JTIII in 2013 were premature. But the program now is a disgrace, an expensive blot on a proud tradition. I think the world of JTIII, but we need fresh eyes on the program, at any cost.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Mar 4, 2017 14:44:18 GMT -5
Our shooting has gone from bad to worst. Only Pryor kept us marginally in the game in the first half. We have got to improve our shooting, especially from long distance. That 3 point shot is a dagger. when you are going up against a dagger with only a knife then all you have is knife. When you are going up against a dagger and you don't even have a knife, you are in trouble.
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