DudeSlade
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Post by DudeSlade on Nov 19, 2019 11:08:13 GMT -5
I applied for and was fortunate enough to be accepted Early Action to Georgetown. I still waited til the end of the regular admission period (actually the last day to send the check to hold my spot in the class) to "sign" with Georgetown. GU was my first choice since the summer before when I first saw the greatest campus in the country (you still can't convince me otherwise), but I didn't have to make a choice yet, so I figured I would wait, get as much info as possible, truly know what I was looking for before signing. When there are deadlines for these things that force a decision by a certain date, it makes sense to use up the whole time to get as complete a picture as possible, even if you are 99% sure you want to go somewhere.
It's not like marriage, where this is no time pressure or deadline -- theoretically you never have to get married and can delay that decision indefinitely, so if you want to do it, at some point you just have to decide this is the one. With going to college, a basketball recruit or a normal student, you have a timeframe you have to make the decision in -- or risk not going to school. Using up all your time in that case makes sense to me. I'm confident that GU is an amazing school and program to be a part of. Terrence should feel like he's making the best choice at any stage. As an alum, I can tell him he is.
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 19, 2019 12:45:27 GMT -5
I applied for and was fortunate enough to be accepted Early Action to Georgetown. I still waited til the end of the regular admission period (actually the last day to send the check to hold my spot in the class) to "sign" with Georgetown. GU was my first choice since the summer before when I first saw the greatest campus in the country (you still can't convince me otherwise), but I didn't have to make a choice yet, so I figured I would wait, get as much info as possible, truly know what I was looking for before signing. When there are deadlines for these things that force a decision by a certain date, it makes sense to use up the whole time to get as complete a picture as possible, even if you are 99% sure you want to go somewhere. It's not like marriage, where this is no time pressure or deadline -- theoretically you never have to get married and can delay that decision indefinitely, so if you want to do it, at some point you just have to decide this is the one. With going to college, a basketball recruit or a normal student, you have a timeframe you have to make the decision in -- or risk not going to school. Using up all your time in that case makes sense to me. I'm confident that GU is an amazing school and program to be a part of. Terrence should feel like he's making the best choice at any stage. As an alum, I can tell him he is. I don't want to bash the kid, but I think the move is a bit naive. Yes, you waited until the last minute. And Georgetown had a long waiting list to fill your spot should you have gone elsewhere. So under the same philosophy, Patrick should keep recruiting to fill that spot. And he probably is quietly.
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DudeSlade
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Post by DudeSlade on Nov 19, 2019 14:24:06 GMT -5
I applied for and was fortunate enough to be accepted Early Action to Georgetown. I still waited til the end of the regular admission period (actually the last day to send the check to hold my spot in the class) to "sign" with Georgetown. GU was my first choice since the summer before when I first saw the greatest campus in the country (you still can't convince me otherwise), but I didn't have to make a choice yet, so I figured I would wait, get as much info as possible, truly know what I was looking for before signing. When there are deadlines for these things that force a decision by a certain date, it makes sense to use up the whole time to get as complete a picture as possible, even if you are 99% sure you want to go somewhere. It's not like marriage, where this is no time pressure or deadline -- theoretically you never have to get married and can delay that decision indefinitely, so if you want to do it, at some point you just have to decide this is the one. With going to college, a basketball recruit or a normal student, you have a timeframe you have to make the decision in -- or risk not going to school. Using up all your time in that case makes sense to me. I'm confident that GU is an amazing school and program to be a part of. Terrence should feel like he's making the best choice at any stage. As an alum, I can tell him he is. I don't want to bash the kid, but I think the move is a bit naive. Yes, you waited until the last minute. And Georgetown had a long waiting list to fill your spot should you have gone elsewhere. So under the same philosophy, Patrick should keep recruiting to fill that spot. And he probably is quietly. Absolutely. Both sides know the situation. Pat thought it worth the risk to wait for his signature in the spring. He could have told him it needed to be a Fall signing or he'd look for someone else. Just as GU could use Early Decision admissions (where you have to commit to go if accepted), rather than Early Action (where you just get accepted early), but they trust they'll have a strong waitlist to turn to if needed. It's a two-way commitment. Both need to be fully onboard and ready to commit and both should be doing full due diligence. Guaranteed Pat has backup options he's looking at if need be. We don't like to talk about, but it's also about power dynamics. Top recruits, like top students, have the power. Very few programs (or universities) have greater power than top recruits ( or top students). Personally, I refused to apply Early Decision anywhere and it soured me on our peer institutions that had them -- were they not secure enough that top students would want to go there in the spring that they'd force me into a decision early? How would it have played with Terrence if he'd been told he had to sign early? Alternatively, power dynamics shift with mid-tier recruits. Would Pat have extended the same option to Dante Harris? I wouldn't be surprised if Harris' spot was predicated on a fall signing, so Pat could focus his recruiting elsewhere after. Coaches are playing the game too to figure out their classes. If a top 10 recruit suddenly says he wants to go to GU and will sign, don't you think Patrick would find a way to make it happen? And who could blame him for taking the top 10 kid? There are risks on both sides, but as long as both are upfront with each other (which it seems like they are), then it seems a good approach. Bravo to Terrence for knowing what he wanted and being in a position that he could do this. And bravo to Pat for trusting himself, his program, the school to do this -- and believing he could find alternatives if need be. I trust it'll work out and am excited about the prospect of a savvy local kid like this playing for us.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 19, 2019 18:49:42 GMT -5
I believe a top basketball player has more sway than a top student. Top students are a dime a dozen. GU even says so by telling me they could fill a class with top candidates they’ve rejected. ☹️
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 21:16:08 GMT -5
Guessing that since they offered Mintz tonight that probably means a member of the staff was in to see Williams also.
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Post by hoyas315 on Nov 20, 2019 7:31:50 GMT -5
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Post by lichoya68 on Nov 20, 2019 8:13:33 GMT -5
bad news waiting to sign good news they offered his buddy and fellow purple eagle GO HOYAS gotta wanna be a hoya yup meanarywayup
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Post by dchoya72 on Nov 20, 2019 8:27:01 GMT -5
Hard for me to get excited about any recruitment until it is a done deal and a decision is made!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 0:58:20 GMT -5
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Post by saxagael on Nov 24, 2019 20:46:25 GMT -5
To follow through with action on the verbal commitment made. If the verbal commitment is really a commitment, there is no need to postpone. The analogy is getting engaged vs. getting married. When someone postpones marriage after engagement, it is rarely because they can’t wait to spend their life with their fiancé. There are a lot of adantages to wait, particularly in the same town as the university. It is more than just a commitment to attend, but a commitment to follow the school's training and conditioning regime. But, if local attending local workouts and training are often included. Years ago Michael Sweetney used that to his advantage, but he wasn't coming from a high school program with really solid training and conditioning. Terrance could also be using the later signing as his own motivation to keep pushing to improve this last year so to keep his edge and not back off. Each player is different, but knowing some of his drive and edge this may be a strong reason. Also if when he made the verbal he told Georgetown he would be signing in late signing period, he likely told them why. This is really mature and talking to a lot of players who signed early, they wished they had held off a bit (for a wide variety of reasons). Not a bad thing, but a sign of someone who seems really mature and not playing any games at all. He knows the system for how all of this is done and he takes to a lot of former teammates who have gone to top D1 schools and received their insights as well as their coaching staff, which has really deep insight.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Nov 27, 2019 16:26:24 GMT -5
Terrance Williams season starts this Friday vs. Bishop McNamara...
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Post by s4hoyas on Nov 29, 2019 21:58:50 GMT -5
Exciting news..keep it up TW...Hoya Nation in full support
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 30, 2019 0:35:59 GMT -5
It would be great to see TW absolutely tear it up his senior year.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Nov 30, 2019 7:32:50 GMT -5
Yes, signing a DC All Met POY would real nice for several reasons.
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 30, 2019 13:42:01 GMT -5
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Post by zxhoya on Nov 30, 2019 13:54:22 GMT -5
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