tupac
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Post by tupac on May 3, 2020 9:07:37 GMT -5
Well the coaching staff need to make J Hill a priority again. He’s ranked higher than Murray. We in here talkin bout rankings?!? We talkin’ about rankings....not their game, not their game, not their game.....but rankings?!? Not their game that they go out there and actually show what they’ve got. Not the game, we talkin’ about rankings man. I mean how silly is that we talkin’ bout rankings. Lol... But I agree a lot of politics in those rankings...
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hoyaroc
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Post by hoyaroc on May 3, 2020 12:42:23 GMT -5
Well the coaching staff need to make J Hill a priority again. He’s ranked higher than Murray. We in here talkin bout rankings?!? We talkin’ about rankings....not their game, not their game, not their game.....but rankings?!? Not their game that they go out there and actually show what they’ve got. Not the game, we talkin’ about rankings man. I mean how silly is that we talkin’ bout rankings. Lol.. It’s not silly when coach Ewing is being criticized on this thread for not being able to close the deal on some of the ranked kids. I actually like the staff recruiting kids who are not ranked high but fit GTown.
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tupac
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Post by tupac on May 3, 2020 16:07:06 GMT -5
Yeah everything can’t be put on the Coaching staff .... Georgetown is not the easiest school to get into and there’s no on campus arena ... Plus we don’t pay ... He has to continue what he’s been doing it has to pay off eventually... I like this class of recruits and grad transfers
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hoyaroc
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Post by hoyaroc on May 3, 2020 16:39:42 GMT -5
I totally agree. I really like the incoming freshmen and grad transfers as well.
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Post by LCPolo18 on May 4, 2020 8:56:27 GMT -5
Lots of stuff happening w/ the 2020 class still... Where are we right now? PG - Beard/Harris SG - McClung SF - Blair/Clark PF - Pickett/Sibley C - Wahab/Igohoefe/Wilson 3 spots open (assuming Omer is gone). Best guesses on starters. Some can obviously play multiple positions. Offered & made cut list: Jermontae Hill - (3* SF, top 8), Karim Mane - (4/5* CG, top 10) Offered & ?: Kerwin Walton - (4* SG), Darius Miles - (4* SF), Seryee Lewis - (3* SF/PF) Old (expired?) offers: Noah Farrakhan, Naseem Khaalid, Silas Mason, Mayoum Mayoum, Ladera Obang, Abou Ousmane, Jahmyl Telfort Interest but no public offer: Brandon Murray - (NR SG), Akeem Odusipe - (3* PF) Other options: Frankie Collins - 4* PG - (class of 2021, but considering re-classify, visiting GU this weekend) Efton Reid - 5* PF/C - (class of 2021, but considering re-classify) Moussa Cisse - 5* PF/C - (class of 2021, but considering re-classify) Kahlil Whitney - Kentucky transfer (initial discussion about GU has cooled, under reg xfer rule would sit out '20-'21) Grad Transfer options/hopefuls (incl. Seth Towns - PF, Mike Smith - PG, Patrick Tape - PF, Brendan Barry - PG) I'm sure there are mistakes and/or omissions.
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Post by hoyaroc on May 4, 2020 17:42:37 GMT -5
Lots of stuff happening w/ the 2020 class still... Where are we right now? PG - Beard/Harris SG - McClung SF - Blair/Clark PF - Pickett/Sibley C - Wahab/Igohoefe/Wilson 3 spots open (assuming Omer is gone). Best guesses on starters. Some can obviously play multiple positions. Offered & made cut list: Jermontae Hill - (3* SF, top 8), Karim Mane - (4/5* CG, top 10) Offered & ?: Kerwin Walton - (4* SG), Darius Miles - (4* SF), Seryee Lewis - (3* SF/PF) Old (expired?) offers: Noah Farrakhan, Naseem Khaalid, Silas Mason, Mayoum Mayoum, Ladera Obang, Abou Ousmane, Jahmyl Telfort Interest but no public offer: Brandon Murray - (NR SG), Akeem Odusipe - (3* PF) Other options: Frankie Collins - 4* PG - (class of 2021, but considering re-classify, visiting GU this weekend) Efton Reid - 5* PF/C - (class of 2021, but considering re-classify) Moussa Cisse - 5* PF/C - (class of 2021, but considering re-classify) Kahlil Whitney - Kentucky transfer (initial discussion about GU has cooled, under reg xfer rule would sit out '20-'21) Grad Transfer options/hopefuls (incl. Seth Towns - PF, Mike Smith - PG, Patrick Tape - PF, Brendan Barry - PG) I'm sure there are mistakes and/or omissions. McClung is pending? You forgot about our recent grad transfers Bile and J Harris.
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Post by LCPolo18 on May 4, 2020 19:03:22 GMT -5
McClung is pending? You forgot about our recent grad transfers Bile and J Harris. I was responding to a message from March 2nd with an update on Silas Mason.
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Post by hoyaroc on May 4, 2020 19:45:09 GMT -5
McClung is pending? You forgot about our recent grad transfers Bile and J Harris. I was responding to a message from March 2nd with an update on Silas Mason. Oh ok, my bad.
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Post by prhoya on May 7, 2020 14:38:05 GMT -5
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Post by trillesthoya on May 7, 2020 14:48:13 GMT -5
The only program currently in a place to land five star recruits in our conference is Villanova. None of us have the type of football money schools in the SEC, ACC and Big Ten can throw around. Nova didn't have any available spots this class, but I'm sure they'll get one in 2021. The Big East is increasingly becoming the place for four stars and high end three stars to make their mark, which is not necessarily a bad thing since those guys tend to stick around longer. You can still field very quality teams with that type of talent. Perhaps we'll be able to do better landing the more high end recruits once the sponsorship rule is passed, since most of us are basketball only schools and sponsorships would go almost exclusively to our basketball players rather than split with football players.
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Post by prhoya on May 7, 2020 15:01:47 GMT -5
Andre Curbelo is the one that got away. Still under the radar at #54 (247), he's one spot lower than RJ Davis. ESPN has Davis at 40 and Curbelo at 41. 247sports.com/Season/2020-Basketball/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchoolIt's incredible to think the scenario these two kids faced when considering GU in October '19 vs. how it has changed. Both committed to their schools before the (blank) hit the GU fan. Both play PG so they had to consider playing behind junior Akinjo and maybe junior Mac (his need to play there for NBA). Fast forward 6 months and any one of them could be the starting PG at GU as a freshman.
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Post by LCPolo18 on May 7, 2020 15:03:51 GMT -5
For what it's worth, the 247 rankings have 27 five star players in the class of 2020. Player #29 is going to Marquette. ACC - 7 SEC - 5 Big 12 - 3 Pac 12 - 3 Pro - 3 WCC - 1 Undecided - 2
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 7, 2020 15:04:01 GMT -5
The only program currently in a place to land five star recruits in our conference is Villanova. None of us have the type of football money schools in the SEC, ACC and Big Ten can throw around. Nova didn't have any available spots this class, but I'm sure they'll get one in 2021. The Big East is increasingly becoming the place for four stars and high end three stars to make their mark, which is not necessarily a bad thing since those guys tend to stick around longer. You can still field very quality teams with that type of talent. Perhaps we'll be able to do better landing the more high end recruits once the sponsorship rule is passed, since most of us are basketball only schools and sponsorships would go almost exclusively to our basketball players rather than split with football players. I gotta think the coaches & Ackerman agree that this is the way to keep the conference near the top. Largely forgo the kids that will make a splash but be gone in a year. Look what it did for Washington. Develop 3 year kids and that is the path to NCAA titles I think. What Nova has going on is unusual in that they are pulling five star kids that want to stay two years. That isn't the pitch of UNC, Kansas, Duke, Kentucky, Lville... The G league thing throws another wrinkle into the plans but I have always thought classes stacked with kids from 50 to 150 is where it is at. We unfortunately haven't done that. Nova is getting kids in the 70/80 range to redshirt which is beyond crazy. Good on them.
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Post by daveg023 on May 7, 2020 15:28:37 GMT -5
The only program currently in a place to land five star recruits in our conference is Villanova. None of us have the type of football money schools in the SEC, ACC and Big Ten can throw around. Nova didn't have any available spots this class, but I'm sure they'll get one in 2021. The Big East is increasingly becoming the place for four stars and high end three stars to make their mark, which is not necessarily a bad thing since those guys tend to stick around longer. You can still field very quality teams with that type of talent. Perhaps we'll be able to do better landing the more high end recruits once the sponsorship rule is passed, since most of us are basketball only schools and sponsorships would go almost exclusively to our basketball players rather than split with football players. I gotta think the coaches & Ackerman agree that this is the way to keep the conference near the top. Largely forgo the kids that will make a splash but be gone in a year. Look what it did for Washington. Develop 3 year kids and that is the path to NCAA titles I think. What Nova has going on is unusual in that they are pulling five star kids that want to stay two years. That isn't the pitch of UNC, Kansas, Duke, Kentucky, Lville... The G league thing throws another wrinkle into the plans but I have always thought classes stacked with kids from 50 to 150 is where it is at. We unfortunately haven't done that. Nova is getting kids in the 70/80 range to redshirt which is beyond crazy. Good on them. Nova’s ability to get guys to redshirt, stay an extra year, etc is such a competitive advantage and I don’t understand how they do it other than Wright has built a culture and can sell it to the “right” kids. Now that they’ve won, it’s even easier for them and they can be more selective.
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Post by EtomicB on May 7, 2020 15:40:20 GMT -5
I gotta think the coaches & Ackerman agree that this is the way to keep the conference near the top. Largely forgo the kids that will make a splash but be gone in a year. Look what it did for Washington. Develop 3 year kids and that is the path to NCAA titles I think. What Nova has going on is unusual in that they are pulling five star kids that want to stay two years. That isn't the pitch of UNC, Kansas, Duke, Kentucky, Lville... The G league thing throws another wrinkle into the plans but I have always thought classes stacked with kids from 50 to 150 is where it is at. We unfortunately haven't done that. Nova is getting kids in the 70/80 range to redshirt which is beyond crazy. Good on them. Nova’s ability to get guys to redshirt, stay an extra year, etc is such a competitive advantage and I don’t understand how they do it other than Wright has built a culture and can sell it to the “right” kids. Now that they’ve won, it’s even easier for them and they can be more selective. Most of the players who they have RSd have been injury or transfer related, pretty sure Bridges & Dixon are the only true RS kids they've had... Wright has capitalized on that by developing these kids into better players who then let other kids know to be patient and it'll work out well for them... Plus Wright is the best coach in the business...
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Post by mdtd on May 7, 2020 15:42:36 GMT -5
Nova’s ability to get guys to redshirt, stay an extra year, etc is such a competitive advantage and I don’t understand how they do it other than Wright has built a culture and can sell it to the “right” kids. Now that they’ve won, it’s even easier for them and they can be more selective. Most of the players who they have RSd have been injury or transfer related, pretty sure Bridges & Dixon are the only true RS kids they've had... Wright has capitalized on that by developing these kids into better players who then let other kids know to be patient and it'll work out well for them... Plus Wright is the best coach in the business... He also has a pretty short rotation, too. I don't think he uses all 13 scholarship spots at all really. That helps a lot too.
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Post by daveg023 on May 7, 2020 15:49:10 GMT -5
Most of the players who they have RSd have been injury or transfer related, pretty sure Bridges & Dixon are the only true RS kids they've had... Wright has capitalized on that by developing these kids into better players who then let other kids know to be patient and it'll work out well for them... Plus Wright is the best coach in the business... He also has a pretty short rotation, too. I don't think he uses all 13 scholarship spots at all really. That helps a lot too. Am I the only one upset the Sixers can’t bomb out in the playoffs, opening up the HC gig (and probably the only job he’d leave for)?
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on May 7, 2020 16:29:43 GMT -5
Somehow, if Wright left we would be good again.
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Post by SirSaxa on May 7, 2020 16:49:50 GMT -5
Wright is fabulous for the BE. We do NOT want him to leave
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Post by badgerhoya on May 7, 2020 18:10:10 GMT -5
I mean, there's also the Big Ten... Top 150 Commitments: 22 Five-Star Commitments: 0 While the Big Ten didn’t land one five-star, it was still a very productive year on the recruiting trail for the conference. Schools from top to bottom had solid recruiting classes filled with three and four year players, which more and more is becoming a staple of the league’s recruiting.
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