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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Mar 1, 2020 21:49:04 GMT -5
That's pretty strong statement! Do you have footage we may need to start his own post. I don't know what level of competition he is playing against, but he looks pretty darn good in these highlights. Mobile , skilled and explosive for his size. He played with incoming freshman Dante Harris on team B Maze Elite www.bmazeelite.com/ |
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Post by hoyanewyorka on Mar 1, 2020 22:03:56 GMT -5
Haven't heard much from Seryee Lewis, even though he has great potential I think we need better at that position for 2020. If he had more size and a consistent outside shoot it would be worth another look. I've watched a lot of video on Lewis & he is NOT ready for BE play. I envision PE sitting him a lot in his first year or just redshirting him. If you look at the offers we have for 2021 PF, I doubt if any of them will commit so Lewis would fit nicely in the grad class of 2024. |
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Post by trillesthoya on Mar 1, 2020 22:37:48 GMT -5
If we're bringing on a PF freshman the guy I want is Odusipe. Don't doubt Lewis could be a contributor here or anything, but Odusipe looks like he could step in and fill Leblanc's role. That's pretty strong statement! Do you have footage we may need to start his own post. Don’t mean to say he will be as good as LeBlanc, only that he does a lot of the things well that Leblanc does well. Sets the tone defensivelt, brings energy when necessary, cleans up the glass. Enforcer on the court- a much needed role on this team with a tremendous amount of toughness graduating in Mr. Mosely. |
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Mar 1, 2020 22:56:56 GMT -5
We need some experience. Two or three players that are not afraid to shoot the long ball.
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Post by bostonfan on Mar 2, 2020 9:12:11 GMT -5
That's pretty strong statement! Do you have footage we may need to start his own post. Don’t mean to say he will be as good as LeBlanc, only that he does a lot of the things well that Leblanc does well. Sets the tone defensivelt, brings energy when necessary, cleans up the glass. Enforcer on the court- a much needed role on this team with a tremendous amount of toughness graduating in Mr. Mosely. I really like Odusipe and his highlights, but do we know that he actually has an offer at this point? It looks like the staff was at his high school recently and offered another player on his high school team, I think an underclassman, but I have not seen an offer reported on verbal commits or anywhere else. I think someone said they saw something on a twitter account, but I wasn't sure if anyone had more concrete info. |
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Post by trillesthoya on Mar 2, 2020 9:27:53 GMT -5
Don’t mean to say he will be as good as LeBlanc, only that he does a lot of the things well that Leblanc does well. Sets the tone defensivelt, brings energy when necessary, cleans up the glass. Enforcer on the court- a much needed role on this team with a tremendous amount of toughness graduating in Mr. Mosely. I really like Odusipe and his highlights, but do we know that he actually has an offer at this point? It looks like the staff was at his high school recently and offered another player on his high school team, I think an underclassman, but I have not seen an offer reported on verbal commits or anywhere else. I think someone said they saw something on a twitter account, but I wasn't sure if anyone had more concrete info. Nope, no confirmation at this moment he has an offer anywhere. I think we’re slow-balling offers for a couple guys in 2020 to see how our other priorities end up playing out. |
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 2, 2020 9:41:59 GMT -5
LSU sure is getting some great commitments. I wonder how they are doing it?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 9:49:28 GMT -5
LSU sure is getting some great commitments. I wonder how they are doing it? ump Sum University |
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 2, 2020 10:09:36 GMT -5
Strong posterior offers...
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 2, 2020 10:43:22 GMT -5
Tremont Waters recruitment was shady.
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Post by bostonfan on Mar 2, 2020 11:09:08 GMT -5
Tremont Waters recruitment was shady. LSU, and some of the other teams that seem to be skirting the rules, continues to land big recruits and I would not expect that to change much until the NCAA does something about it. These recruits are seeing that nothing happens to the coaches/schools so they figure it must not be that big of a deal. Even the schools that have ben "punished" have not had anything serious done to them. At this point if you are Kansas, Arizona or LSU why would you change anything, if what you have been doing has continued to get you good players? I don't think it is fair to blame 18 year old kids for not taking a hard stance against these schools, who all continue to win games, and saying no to these schools if the NCAA is not going to do anything. |
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 2, 2020 11:41:46 GMT -5
UNC had fake classes. It still blows my mind that they weren’t given the death penalty.
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Post by bostonfan on Mar 2, 2020 12:03:41 GMT -5
UNC had fake classes. It still blows my mind that they weren’t given the death penalty. Exactly, and now everyone acts like it was not even a big deal. Why would UNC change anything at this point if they get caught and nothing happens. Until the NCAA decides to do something to level the playing field for everyone it makes it really hard for programs trying to do things the right way, to compete on a consistent basis. It is not impossible, because you see places like Gonzaga. Virginia and Michigan St field good teams every year and I think the Hoyas were on their way to consistently being a tournament program, but this year has been really difficult with the transfers and injuries. I would still prefer them to continue to do things the right way and build a program that people can be proud of, but it is going to take a few more years now (and some better decisions by staff and players) but I am hopeful it can happen. |
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 2, 2020 12:18:45 GMT -5
UNC had fake classes. It still blows my mind that they weren’t given the death penalty. UNC athletics did not have fake classes, the university did; or at least tolerated it. The NCAA is a deliberative body on athletics, not academics, and while the athletic department was a beneficiary of the African-American Studies program at UNC, they were neither responsible nor accountable for the delivery of the coursework. The sanction should have come from the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools, which chose not to do so. www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/major-national-accreditation-agency-considered-dropping-north-carolina/ |
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 2, 2020 12:27:14 GMT -5
UNC had fake classes. It still blows my mind that they weren’t given the death penalty. Exactly, and now everyone acts like it was not even a big deal. Why would UNC change anything at this point if they get caught and nothing happens. Until the NCAA decides to do something to level the playing field for everyone it makes it really hard for programs trying to do things the right way, to compete on a consistent basis. It is not impossible, because you see places like Gonzaga. Virginia and Michigan St field good teams every year and I think the Hoyas were on their way to consistently being a tournament program, but this year has been really difficult with the transfers and injuries. I would still prefer them to continue to do things the right way and build a program that people can be proud of, but it is going to take a few more years now (and some better decisions by staff and players) but I am hopeful it can happen. Why list 3 teams outside of the Big East to help make your point? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 12:56:30 GMT -5
Lots of stuff happening w/ the 2020 class still... Where are we right now?
PG - Beard/Harris
SG - McClung
SF - Blair/Clark
PF - Pickett/Sibley
C - Wahab/Igohoefe/Wilson
3 spots open (assuming Omer is gone). Best guesses on starters. Some can obviously play multiple positions.
Offered & made cut list:
Jermontae Hill - (3* SF, top 8), Karim Mane - (4/5* CG, top 10)
Offered & ?:
Kerwin Walton - (4* SG), Darius Miles - (4* SF), Seryee Lewis - (3* SF/PF)
Old (expired?) offers:
Noah Farrakhan, Naseem Khaalid, Silas Mason, Mayoum Mayoum, Ladera Obang, Abou Ousmane, Jahmyl Telfort
Interest but no public offer:
Brandon Murray - (NR SG), Akeem Odusipe - (3* PF)
Other options:
Frankie Collins - 4* PG - (class of 2021, but considering re-classify, visiting GU this weekend)
Efton Reid - 5* PF/C - (class of 2021, but considering re-classify)
Moussa Cisse - 5* PF/C - (class of 2021, but considering re-classify)
Kahlil Whitney - Kentucky transfer (initial discussion about GU has cooled, under reg xfer rule would sit out '20-'21)
Grad Transfer options/hopefuls (incl. Seth Towns - PF, Mike Smith - PG, Patrick Tape - PF, Brendan Barry - PG)
I'm sure there are mistakes and/or omissions.
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Post by justsaying on Mar 2, 2020 13:21:17 GMT -5
UNC had fake classes. It still blows my mind that they weren’t given the death penalty. UNC athletics did not have fake classes, the university did; or at least tolerated it. The NCAA is a deliberative body on athletics, not academics, and while the athletic department was a beneficiary of the African-American Studies program at UNC, they were neither responsible nor accountable for the delivery of the coursework. The sanction should have come from the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools, which chose not to do so. www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/major-national-accreditation-agency-considered-dropping-north-carolina/good point; but it was also allowed at the university level to benefit athletes team eligibility. |
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Post by justsaying on Mar 2, 2020 13:22:51 GMT -5
Lots of stuff happening w/ the 2020 class still... Where are we right now? PG - Beard/Harris SG - McClung SF - Blair/Clark PF - Pickett/Sibley C - Wahab/Igohoefe/Wilson 3 spots open (assuming Omer is gone). Best guesses on starters. Some can obviously play multiple positions. Offered & made cut list: Jermontae Hill - 3* SF (top 8) Offered & ?: Kerwin Walton - 4* SG Karim Mane - 4/5* CG Darius Miles - 4* SF Interest but no public offer: Brandon Murray - NR SG Akeem Odusipe - 3* PF Other options: Frankie Collins - 4* PG - (class of 2021, but considering re-classify, visiting GU this weekend) Efton Reid - 5* PF/C - (class of 2021, but considering re-classify) Moussa Cisse - 5* PF/C - (class of 2021, but considering re-classify) Kahlil Whitney - Kentucky transfer (initial discussion about GU has cooled, under reg xfer rule would sit out '20-'21) Grad Transfer options/hopefuls (incl. Seth Towns - PF, Mike Smith - PG, Patrick Tape - PF, Brendan Barry - PG) I'm sure there are mistakes and/or omissions. nice update |
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 2, 2020 13:51:04 GMT -5
Lots of stuff happening w/ the 2020 class still... Where are we right now? PG - Beard/Harris SG - McClung SF - Blair/Clark PF - Pickett/Sibley C - Wahab/Igohoefe/Wilson 3 spots open (assuming Omer is gone). Best guesses on starters. Some can obviously play multiple positions. Offered & made cut list: Jermontae Hill - 3* SF (top 8) Offered & ?: Kerwin Walton - 4* SG Karim Mane - 4/5* CG Darius Miles - 4* SF Interest but no public offer: Brandon Murray - NR SG Akeem Odusipe - 3* PF Other options: Frankie Collins - 4* PG - (class of 2021, but considering re-classify, visiting GU this weekend) Efton Reid - 5* PF/C - (class of 2021, but considering re-classify) Moussa Cisse - 5* PF/C - (class of 2021, but considering re-classify) Kahlil Whitney - Kentucky transfer (initial discussion about GU has cooled, under reg xfer rule would sit out '20-'21) Grad Transfer options/hopefuls (incl. Seth Towns - PF, Mike Smith - PG, Patrick Tape - PF, Brendan Barry - PG) I'm sure there are mistakes and/or omissions. Think you hit most of the highlights. Here's a couple other details to add. -Hoyas made the top 10 list for Karim Mane -Hoyas have a recent offer out to Seryee Lewis -Hoyas have older offers (potentially no longer interest) for Noah Farrakhan, Naseem Khaalid, Silas Mason, Mayoum Mayoum, Ladera Obang, Abou Ousmane, Jahmyl Telfort I try to keep this as up to date as possible, at least with the correct names, offers, visits, and commitments. I only update the rankings every once in a while. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CtUgTwapB5rCvc7Dm6GIMQ-GaSRoUUjB12mSM9evPC4/edit?usp=sharing(FYI this link is in the sticky of the scholarship table in the recruiting forum for quick access) |
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Post by RBHoya on Mar 2, 2020 14:14:59 GMT -5
Lots of stuff happening w/ the 2020 class still... Where are we right now? PG - Beard/Harris SG - McClung SF - Blair/Clark PF - Pickett/Sibley C - Wahab/Igohoefe/Wilson 3 spots open (assuming Omer is gone). Best guesses on starters. Some can obviously play multiple positions. Offered & made cut list: Jermontae Hill - 3* SF (top 8) Offered & ?: Kerwin Walton - 4* SG Karim Mane - 4/5* CG Darius Miles - 4* SF Interest but no public offer: Brandon Murray - NR SG Akeem Odusipe - 3* PF Other options: Frankie Collins - 4* PG - (class of 2021, but considering re-classify, visiting GU this weekend) Efton Reid - 5* PF/C - (class of 2021, but considering re-classify) Moussa Cisse - 5* PF/C - (class of 2021, but considering re-classify) Kahlil Whitney - Kentucky transfer (initial discussion about GU has cooled, under reg xfer rule would sit out '20-'21) Grad Transfer options/hopefuls (incl. Seth Towns - PF, Mike Smith - PG, Patrick Tape - PF, Brendan Barry - PG) I'm sure there are mistakes and/or omissions. Good synopsis. There are a few other high schoolers we've purportedly offered at some point that we're no longer hearing much about, and who we maybe cooled on. That would include: Seryee Lewis, Jahmyl Telfort, Silas Mason, and Noah Farrakhan among others. The assumption is that we're not in hot pursuit of any of these guys, but I'd also point out that it seemed like things had cooled last year with Myron Gardner before he committed seemingly out of nowhere. So you never know. The grad transfer market will heat up quickly in another month or so, and I think a couple of good grad transfers are probably our best hope at improvement for next year--and as much I think the long view is important, I think the culture around the program will be in really tough shape at this time next year if the team doesn't have a better year than this one. We need some guys who will make us better in the '20-'21 season. Some JuCo options may be available too, but I'm not as well-versed in that market. The dream scenario to me would be a reclassed Cisse plus 2 high level grad transfers, say Mike Smith and Seth Towns. We could start Smith, McClung, Towns, Cisse and Wahab with Blair, Pickett and maybe Beard coming off the bench. Shuffle around the starting lineup as you see fit, but that 8 man rotation, with 4 seniors and a junior plus a stud freshman could legitimately compete next year. Recognizing that it would take practically a miracle for all that to come together, a more realistic but still very good finish to 2020 would be something like 2 high level grad transfers like Barry and SRD (a grad transfer who has not yet announced his intentions), plus one more good high school player like Walton or Odusipe. Start Barry, McClung, Blair, Pickett, and Wahab with key bench players of SRD, Beard, Ighoefe and one of Walton/Odusipe/Sibley/Clark/Wilson. Probably not enough to win the Big East, but if some of the young big guys develop and the team comes together, enough to make the tournament and get this monkey off our backs. We'd again have 4 seniors and a junior in the rotation, and wouldn't be heavily dependent on freshmen except for depth. This is why I really think grad transfers are essential. We have 3 more open slots, I really hope 2 are for immediately eligible guys who can play and who have experience at this level. I'm not sure the program can wait for the next generation of high schoolers to grow into being Big East-level players over 2-3 years. Then start me off in 2021 with Frankie Collins and Ryan Mutombo. |
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