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Post by eagle54 on Jan 28, 2017 22:58:42 GMT -5
11/12: USC-UPSTATE W 11/15: MARYLAND L 11/17: ARKANSAS ST. [McD] W L 11/21: vs. Oregon L W 11/22: vs. Wisc./Tenn. W L 11/23: Maui Invitational Oklahoma State L 11/27: HOWARD W 11/30: COPPIN ST. W 12/04: ELON W 12/10: vs LaSalle W 12/17: at Syracuse L W 12/22: UNC-GREENSBORO W 12/28: at Marquette L 12/31: XAVIER L 01/04: at Providence L 01/07: BUTLER W L 01/09: ST. JOHN'S W 01/14: CONNECTICUT L W 01/16: PROVIDENCE W L 01/22: at Xavier L 01/25: CREIGHTON W 01/28: at Butler L W01/31: at DePaul W 02/01: SETON HALL W 02/07: at Villanova L 02/11: MARQUETTE W 02/19: at Creighton L 02/22: DEPAUL W 02/25: at St. John's W 02/28: at Seton Hall W 03/04: VILLANOVA L Moving up to 18-13 and 9-9 in the BE. NIT is alive and well but will need to run the table in BE tourney to sniff the big dance unless we can do something different with the rest of the schedule. I already have us 6-3 to get to the above records which won't cut it. We beat Nova in one of our matchups to go 10-8 in conference maybe that changes. |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 29, 2017 1:23:32 GMT -5
As I noted in the other thread 9-9 might cut it because of our strength of schedule and our good wins. I think 9-9 with a BET probably would be enough, with 10-8 certainly enough.
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Post by eagle54 on Feb 1, 2017 0:16:57 GMT -5
11/12: USC-UPSTATE W 11/15: MARYLAND L 11/17: ARKANSAS ST. [McD] W L 11/21: vs. Oregon L W 11/22: vs. Wisc./Tenn. W L 11/23: Maui Invitational Oklahoma State L 11/27: HOWARD W 11/30: COPPIN ST. W 12/04: ELON W 12/10: vs LaSalle W 12/17: at Syracuse L W 12/22: UNC-GREENSBORO W 12/28: at Marquette L 12/31: XAVIER L 01/04: at Providence L 01/07: BUTLER W L 01/09: ST. JOHN'S W 01/14: CONNECTICUT L W 01/16: PROVIDENCE W L 01/22: at Xavier L 01/25: CREIGHTON W 01/28: at Butler L W01/31: at DePaul W 02/01: SETON HALL W 02/07: at Villanova L 02/11: MARQUETTE W 02/19: at Creighton L 02/22: DEPAUL W 02/25: at St. John's W 02/28: at Seton Hall W 03/04: VILLANOVA L Still on pace for 18-13 and 9-9 in the BE. I don't think 9-9 does it for sure unless we do something in the BE tournament of note. I do think 10-8 gets it done. |
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Post by eagle54 on Feb 3, 2017 22:26:29 GMT -5
11/12: USC-UPSTATE W 11/15: MARYLAND L 11/17: ARKANSAS ST. [McD] W L11/21: vs. Oregon L W11/22: vs. Wisc./Tenn. W L11/23: Maui Invitational Oklahoma State L 11/27: HOWARD W 11/30: COPPIN ST. W 12/04: ELON W 12/10: vs LaSalle W 12/17: at Syracuse L W12/22: UNC-GREENSBORO W 12/28: at Marquette L 12/31: XAVIER L 01/04: at Providence L 01/07: BUTLER W L01/09: ST. JOHN'S W 01/14: CONNECTICUT L W01/16: PROVIDENCE W L01/22: at Xavier L 01/25: CREIGHTON W 01/28: at Butler L W01/31: at DePaul W 02/01: SETON HALL W 02/07: at Villanova L 02/11: MARQUETTE W 02/19: at Creighton L 02/22: DEPAUL W 02/25: at St. John's W 02/28: at Seton Hall W 03/04: VILLANOVA L Tomorrow was in the preseason prediction win column in the Hoyas record prediction. Not much room for error so this could be post season chances or bust for us. |
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Post by eagle54 on Feb 4, 2017 23:25:03 GMT -5
11/12: USC-UPSTATE W 11/15: MARYLAND L 11/17: ARKANSAS ST. [McD] W L11/21: vs. Oregon L W11/22: vs. Wisc./Tenn. W L11/23: Maui Invitational Oklahoma State L 11/27: HOWARD W 11/30: COPPIN ST. W 12/04: ELON W 12/10: vs LaSalle W 12/17: at Syracuse L W12/22: UNC-GREENSBORO W 12/28: at Marquette L 12/31: XAVIER L 01/04: at Providence L 01/07: BUTLER W L01/09: ST. JOHN'S W 01/14: CONNECTICUT L W01/16: PROVIDENCE W L01/22: at Xavier L 01/25: CREIGHTON W 01/28: at Butler L W01/31: at DePaul W 02/01: SETON HALL W L02/07: at Villanova L 02/11: MARQUETTE W 02/19: at Creighton L 02/22: DEPAUL W 02/25: at St. John's W 02/28: at Seton Hall W 03/04: VILLANOVA L NCAA's are done. Still hope for the NIT which I know the hopefuls on here will see as some type of achievement but it's a failure for this program. 17-14 with an 8 -10 BE record and that's based on my preseason generosity and optimism the rest of the way. |
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Post by This Just In on Feb 5, 2017 10:02:26 GMT -5
11/12: USC-UPSTATE W 11/15: MARYLAND L 11/17: ARKANSAS ST. [McD] W L11/21: vs. Oregon L W11/22: vs. Wisc./Tenn. W L11/23: Maui Invitational Oklahoma State L 11/27: HOWARD W 11/30: COPPIN ST. W 12/04: ELON W 12/10: vs LaSalle W 12/17: at Syracuse L W12/22: UNC-GREENSBORO W 12/28: at Marquette L 12/31: XAVIER L 01/04: at Providence L 01/07: BUTLER W L01/09: ST. JOHN'S W 01/14: CONNECTICUT L W01/16: PROVIDENCE W L01/22: at Xavier L 01/25: CREIGHTON W 01/28: at Butler L W01/31: at DePaul W 02/01: SETON HALL W L02/07: at Villanova L 02/11: MARQUETTE W 02/19: at Creighton L 02/22: DEPAUL W 02/25: at St. John's W 02/28: at Seton Hall W 03/04: VILLANOVA L NCAA's are done. Still hope for the NIT which I know the hopefuls on here will see as some type of achievement but it's a failure for this program. 17-14 with an 8 -10 BE record and that's based on my preseason generosity and optimism the rest of the way. The team is 8-10 or 9-9 at best. A split with Villanova is an 8th loss, then Marquette, at Creighton at Seton Hall. There could easily be a 9th and 10th and even worst record by the end. |
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Post by eagle54 on Feb 7, 2017 22:17:34 GMT -5
11/12: USC-UPSTATE W 11/15: MARYLAND L 11/17: ARKANSAS ST. [McD] W L11/21: vs. Oregon L W11/22: vs. Wisc./Tenn. W L11/23: Maui Invitational Oklahoma State L 11/27: HOWARD W 11/30: COPPIN ST. W 12/04: ELON W 12/10: vs LaSalle W 12/17: at Syracuse L W12/22: UNC-GREENSBORO W 12/28: at Marquette L 12/31: XAVIER L 01/04: at Providence L 01/07: BUTLER W L01/09: ST. JOHN'S W 01/14: CONNECTICUT L W01/16: PROVIDENCE W L01/22: at Xavier L 01/25: CREIGHTON W 01/28: at Butler L W01/31: at DePaul W 02/01: SETON HALL W L02/07: at Villanova L 02/11: MARQUETTE W 02/19: at Creighton L 02/22: DEPAUL W 02/25: at St. John's W 02/28: at Seton Hall W 03/04: VILLANOVA L This one didn't hurt us as it was a predicted loss. Marquette will be big on Saturday but might need to run the table on this schedule to have any hope. That would mean taking care of business but also winning at Creighton and and at home against Nova (maybe they'll throw us one for the conference). |
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Post by HometownHoya on Feb 7, 2017 22:31:48 GMT -5
At Nova was probably predicted as a loss by even the most optimistic. We made it a game late and have the potential to keep up with even the best teams.
If we can win all home games and steal a couple of road games, then Nova at home to end the season could be important for our chances again.
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Post by DallasHoya on Feb 7, 2017 22:38:57 GMT -5
It was around this time last year that I started asking the question where are the wins on the remaining schedule to get us NIT-qualified. That's right where we are now: 13-12 with six games left. If we go 2-4, we have to win round one of the BET to qualify for the NIT. Right now we're matched up against Provy, and they've proven they can beat us. Twice. That means we need to go 3-3. Figure wins vs. St Johns (not a gimme on the road) and DePaul at home, and losses to Nova at home and Creighton on the road. That means we need a win vs. Marquette at home or Seton Hall on the road. The NCAAs? We've got our work cut out to make the NIT. |
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Post by eagle54 on Feb 7, 2017 22:45:25 GMT -5
It was around this time last year that I started asking the question where are the wins on the remaining schedule to get us NIT-qualified. That's right where we are now: 13-12 with six games left. If we go 2-4, we have to win round one of the BET to qualify for the NIT. Right now we're matched up against Provy, and they've proven they can beat us. Twice. That means we need to go 3-3. Figure wins vs. St Johns (not a gimme on the road) and DePaul at home, and losses to Nova at home and Creighton on the road. That means we need a win vs. Marquette at home or Seton Hall on the road. The NCAAs? We've got our work cut out to make the NIT. I've come to grips with the NCAA's being out of reach. The NIT and going .500 is now the challenge. It's a shame that this team is in this position. We can talk about PG play and some other things but this is on coaching. There is huge talent on this team and someone who knows nothing about how to exploit it. I want some of our faithful on record for next year with our savior PG to let me know what needs to happen with another terrible season like this to keep his job. They all said this year would be critical but somehow forgot that. Getting tiresome and clearly the interest level from just this board is way down. Imagine from most of our normal alumni who checked out two to three years ago. A program lost. Every year we ignore it will only make it harder to dig out. |
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Post by This Just In on Feb 7, 2017 23:01:33 GMT -5
It was around this time last year that I started asking the question where are the wins on the remaining schedule to get us NIT-qualified. That's right where we are now: 13-12 with six games left. If we go 2-4, we have to win round one of the BET to qualify for the NIT. Right now we're matched up against Provy, and they've proven they can beat us. Twice. That means we need to go 3-3. Figure wins vs. St Johns (not a gimme on the road) and DePaul at home, and losses to Nova at home and Creighton on the road. That means we need a win vs. Marquette at home or Seton Hall on the road. The NCAAs? We've got our work cut out to make the NIT. I've come to grips with the NCAA's being out of reach. The NIT and going .500 is now the challenge. It's a shame that this team is in this position. We can talk about PG play and some other things but this is on coaching. There is huge talent on this team and someone who knows nothing about how to exploit it. I want some of our faithful on record for next year with our savior PG to let me know what needs to happen with another terrible season like this to keep his job. They all said this year would be critical but somehow forgot that. Getting tiresome and clearly the interest level from just this board is way down. Imagine from most of our normal alumni who checked out two to three years ago. A program lost. Every year we ignore it will only make it harder to dig out. 8-10 or 9-9 is still looking good right now... 3 of the remaining 6 gms, JTIII has a losing record against in the NBE so the team could go 3-3 and end up at 7-11 Record Vs. Villanova, Xavier, Providence, and Seton Hall: 6-25 (.193) |
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Post by Just Cos on Feb 8, 2017 0:18:11 GMT -5
I hope you're right eagle for the rest of the year up to Nova. That would make the home against Nova one hell of a game.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 8, 2017 10:10:56 GMT -5
To be optimistic (maybe not realistic): if we go 8-10 in conference, there is likely a route that would get us into the NCAA tournament without winning the BET. If we go 8-10, and we make the BET final, that would mean we won 3 games (assuming we play on Wednesday) and lose 1 (likely to a top 20 team). That'd give us an 11-11 record in the Big East, and by necessity, we would likely beat a few more good to solid teams. I am not saying it's likely (it's not), but it's a path that doesn't involve winning the BET.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 8, 2017 10:17:13 GMT -5
The NCAAs? We've got our work cut out to make the NIT. The difference between our making the NCAAs, NIT, or neither is actually quite small. This is because we have quite a few good wins, yet a fairly poor record. For example: If we finish 9-9, and 18-13 overall, we almost certainly make the NCAA tournament. If we finish 8-10, and 17-14 overall, we probably don't make the NCAA tournament, but easily make the NIT. If we finish 7-11, and 16-15 overall, we make the NIT. If we finish 6-12, and 15-16 overall, we make neither. So really, a difference of just 4 wins makes a huge difference in where we are. Also, the main problem our team has with the NIT is reaching .500. If not for that rule, our team at 15-16 would probably make it because of our good wins and our strength of schedule. But, the rule is the rule. |
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Post by LCPolo18 on Feb 8, 2017 10:32:20 GMT -5
The NCAAs? We've got our work cut out to make the NIT. The difference between our making the NCAAs, NIT, or neither is actually quite small. This is because we have quite a few good wins, yet a fairly poor record. For example: If we finish 9-9, and 18-13 overall, we almost certainly make the NCAA tournament. If we finish 8-10, and 17-14 overall, we probably don't make the NCAA tournament, but easily make the NIT. If we finish 7-11, and 16-15 overall, we make the NIT. If we finish 6-12, and 15-16 overall, we make neither. So really, a difference of just 4 wins makes a huge difference in where we are. Also, the main problem our team has with the NIT is reaching .500. If not for that rule, our team at 15-16 would probably make it because of our good wins and our strength of schedule. But, the rule is the rule. I agree with this breakdown, though I'm not even positive that 7-11 and 16-15 makes the NIT. Only 32 teams make the NIT, and last year 15 of those were automatic bids and no team with 15 losses made it (including records in conference tournaments). Creighton was the only Big East team to make the NIT last year, and they were 9-9 and 18-13 going into the BET (though with a much lower RPI than Georgetown has this year). |
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Post by guru on Feb 8, 2017 13:10:33 GMT -5
The NCAAs? We've got our work cut out to make the NIT. The difference between our making the NCAAs, NIT, or neither is actually quite small. This is because we have quite a few good wins, yet a fairly poor record. For example: If we finish 9-9, and 18-13 overall, we almost certainly make the NCAA tournament. If we finish 8-10, and 17-14 overall, we probably don't make the NCAA tournament, but easily make the NIT. If we finish 7-11, and 16-15 overall, we make the NIT. If we finish 6-12, and 15-16 overall, we make neither. So really, a difference of just 4 wins makes a huge difference in where we are. Also, the main problem our team has with the NIT is reaching .500. If not for that rule, our team at 15-16 would probably make it because of our good wins and our strength of schedule. But, the rule is the rule. Short list this post for the most depressing of the year. |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 8, 2017 13:40:04 GMT -5
The difference between our making the NCAAs, NIT, or neither is actually quite small. This is because we have quite a few good wins, yet a fairly poor record. For example: If we finish 9-9, and 18-13 overall, we almost certainly make the NCAA tournament. If we finish 8-10, and 17-14 overall, we probably don't make the NCAA tournament, but easily make the NIT. If we finish 7-11, and 16-15 overall, we make the NIT. If we finish 6-12, and 15-16 overall, we make neither. So really, a difference of just 4 wins makes a huge difference in where we are. Also, the main problem our team has with the NIT is reaching .500. If not for that rule, our team at 15-16 would probably make it because of our good wins and our strength of schedule. But, the rule is the rule. Short list this post for the most depressing of the year. I don't disagree with you. As much flack as eagle gives me and others, this year has been hugely disappointing. |
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Post by eagle54 on Feb 11, 2017 22:51:08 GMT -5
11/12: USC-UPSTATE W 11/15: MARYLAND L 11/17: ARKANSAS ST. [McD] W L 11/21: vs. Oregon L W 11/22: vs. Wisc./Tenn. W L 11/23: Maui Invitational Oklahoma State L 11/27: HOWARD W 11/30: COPPIN ST. W 12/04: ELON W 12/10: vs LaSalle W 12/17: at Syracuse L W 12/22: UNC-GREENSBORO W 12/28: at Marquette L 12/31: XAVIER L 01/04: at Providence L 01/07: BUTLER W L 01/09: ST. JOHN'S W 01/14: CONNECTICUT L W 01/16: PROVIDENCE W L 01/22: at Xavier L 01/25: CREIGHTON W 01/28: at Butler L W01/31: at DePaul W 02/01: SETON HALL W L02/07: at Villanova L 02/11: MARQUETTE W 02/19: at Creighton L 02/22: DEPAUL W 02/25: at St. John's W 02/28: at Seton Hall W 03/04: VILLANOVA L Still at 17-14 on projections and 8-10 in BE. Doesn't get it done. Need to win the remaining games we should win which is DePaul, St. John's and Seton Hall (not a given) and then flip Creighton to W or even better flip Nova to a W. That would give us a chance with another W in BE tournament. I don't think this team and school will get many benefits of the doubt in being selected based on past performance and the inconsistency of this season. Eye test more than SOS and Kenpom's. By the way I'm now 17-9 in my predictions thus far. If only the Hoyas were as good in their record. |
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Post by eagle54 on Feb 19, 2017 19:10:20 GMT -5
11/12: USC-UPSTATE W 11/15: MARYLAND L 11/17: ARKANSAS ST. [McD] W L 11/21: vs. Oregon L W 11/22: vs. Wisc./Tenn. W L 11/23: Maui Invitational Oklahoma State L 11/27: HOWARD W 11/30: COPPIN ST. W 12/04: ELON W 12/10: vs LaSalle W 12/17: at Syracuse L W 12/22: UNC-GREENSBORO W 12/28: at Marquette L 12/31: XAVIER L 01/04: at Providence L 01/07: BUTLER W L 01/09: ST. JOHN'S W 01/14: CONNECTICUT L W 01/16: PROVIDENCE W L 01/22: at Xavier L 01/25: CREIGHTON W 01/28: at Butler L W 01/31: at DePaul W 02/01: SETON HALL W L 02/07: at Villanova L 02/11: MARQUETTE W 02/19: at Creighton L 02/22: DEPAUL W 02/25: at St. John's W 02/28: at Seton Hall W 03/04: VILLANOVA L Tracking to 8-10 in BE and that's if we win next three as predicted then lose to Nova. I think we sealed our exit from NCAA's today barring some miracle from this group |
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Post by eagle54 on Feb 22, 2017 23:48:47 GMT -5
11/12: USC-UPSTATE W 11/15: MARYLAND L 11/17: ARKANSAS ST. [McD] W L 11/21: vs. Oregon L W 11/22: vs. Wisc./Tenn. W L 11/23: Maui Invitational Oklahoma State L 11/27: HOWARD W 11/30: COPPIN ST. W 12/04: ELON W 12/10: vs LaSalle W 12/17: at Syracuse L W 12/22: UNC-GREENSBORO W 12/28: at Marquette L 12/31: XAVIER L 01/04: at Providence L 01/07: BUTLER W L 01/09: ST. JOHN'S W 01/14: CONNECTICUT L W 01/16: PROVIDENCE W L 01/22: at Xavier L 01/25: CREIGHTON W 01/28: at Butler L W 01/31: at DePaul W 02/01: SETON HALL W L 02/07: at Villanova L 02/11: MARQUETTE W 02/19: at Creighton L 02/22: DEPAUL W L02/25: at St. John's W 02/28: at Seton Hall W 03/04: VILLANOVA L My original prediction which remains for last three games would have us at 7-11 but I think we'll be 6-12 as we lose to Seton Hall. |
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