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Post by SSHoya on Nov 3, 2020 13:26:03 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 5, 2020 6:50:02 GMT -5
I guess I'll go down to the election office and exercise my Second Amendment rights - no intimidation intended. PHOENIX — More than 150 supporters of President Trump, some of them armed, gathered outside the Maricopa County election office on Wednesday and chanted “Count the vote,” as officials did just that under the protection of sheriff’s deputies. www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/us/politics/trump-supporters-protest-arizona.html
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Post by hoyajinx on Nov 5, 2020 7:10:52 GMT -5
I guess I'll go down to the election office and exercise my Second Amendment rights - no intimidation intended. PHOENIX — More than 150 supporters of President Trump, some of them armed, gathered outside the Maricopa County election office on Wednesday and chanted “Count the vote,” as officials did just that under the protection of sheriff’s deputies. www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/us/politics/trump-supporters-protest-arizona.htmlThese guys have to get their messaging straight. Do they want votes counted or not? It’s interesting that the votes coming in narrowing Trump’s leads need to be stopped because they are illegitimate, but the ones narrowing Biden’s lead need to be counted to preserve democracy. Crazy how that works... What do these absolute idiots believe? That only Democrats are counting votes and there is no Republican oversight? Trump really does only appeal to the greedy and the braindead. Mostly the latter.
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Post by TC on Nov 5, 2020 8:12:13 GMT -5
These guys have to get their messaging straight. Do they want votes counted or not? It’s interesting that the votes coming in narrowing Trump’s leads need to be stopped because they are illegitimate, but the ones narrowing Biden’s lead need to be counted to preserve democracy. Crazy how that works... What do these absolute idiots believe? That only Democrats are counting votes and there is no Republican oversight? Trump really does only appeal to the greedy and the braindead. Mostly the latter. I think their messaging is quite straight and they are not idiots. They are fascists. I think it's hard to accept but a large portion of this country is quite okay with democracy being just performative theater like in Russia and being ruled by people that don't care about the common good as long as they get their way.
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Post by Elvado on Nov 5, 2020 8:21:20 GMT -5
These guys have to get their messaging straight. Do they want votes counted or not? It’s interesting that the votes coming in narrowing Trump’s leads need to be stopped because they are illegitimate, but the ones narrowing Biden’s lead need to be counted to preserve democracy. Crazy how that works... What do these absolute idiots believe? That only Democrats are counting votes and there is no Republican oversight? Trump really does only appeal to the greedy and the braindead. Mostly the latter. I think their messaging is quite straight and they are not idiots. They are fascists. I think it's hard to accept but a large portion of this country is quite okay with democracy being just performative theater like in Russia and being ruled by people that don't care about the common good as long as they get their way. I could not agree more.
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Post by hoya9797 on Nov 5, 2020 8:26:45 GMT -5
Maybe, next time, don’t vote for the people who are trying to destroy our system.
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Post by hoyajinx on Nov 5, 2020 11:21:14 GMT -5
These guys have to get their messaging straight. Do they want votes counted or not? It’s interesting that the votes coming in narrowing Trump’s leads need to be stopped because they are illegitimate, but the ones narrowing Biden’s lead need to be counted to preserve democracy. Crazy how that works... What do these absolute idiots believe? That only Democrats are counting votes and there is no Republican oversight? Trump really does only appeal to the greedy and the braindead. Mostly the latter. I think their messaging is quite straight and they are not idiots. They are fascists. I think it's hard to accept but a large portion of this country is quite okay with democracy being just performative theater like in Russia and being ruled by people that don't care about the common good as long as they get their way. It’s clear that the Trump administration is bent on fascism and has been setting this scenario up for the past year. You’ll be hard-pressed to convince me that these people taking to the street are much more than poorly educated, limbic system-driven fools who can’t see the ruse for what it is. They have been convinced that they are on the side of “freedom” by this fascist regime and that liberals are the enemies of freedom without ever really stopping to reflect how little sense any of this makes. With any ability to think critically, maybe they would realize that the guy who kept leaving his supporters out in the freezing cold to fend for themselves after rallies doesn’t care about them at all. They are simply means to a self-serving end. I do believe that this has sprung from the “own the libs at all cost” mentality. Tommy Tuberville’s acceptance speech starkly illustrated that point.
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 5, 2020 11:25:56 GMT -5
“STOP THE COUNT!” the president shouted at Twitter this morning. People are listening. Crowds are threatening places where votes are still being counted in swing states, and an eager group of supporters is backing him. But among the people who matter, no one is heeding the call. Not for the first time in his presidency, although perhaps never more decisively, Donald Trump has run up against something he cannot control. As a matter of tactics, Trump is lucky to be ignored. If the vote counts were frozen where they are right now, former Vice President Joe Biden would win Arizona and Nevada, giving him enough electoral votes to win the presidency even without Pennsylvania and Georgia, where he is gaining on Trump. As a matter of strategy, Trump is reaching a possible end of his presidency that echoes the preceding four years. He is a paper tiger who is at his most fearsome when he is ordering subordinates around, but has never managed to figure out how to work within the system of government. www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/impotence-donald-trump/617005/?utm_content=edit-promo&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=2020-11-05T16%3A02%3A58&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&fbclid=IwAR2_mMh-q8rk7E1SJQKaMx2Ic3-WayEmylXpClmnkullI7v6RCKzIRVWcWg&fbclid=IwAR371R4PMJ810LHU0465z7tPVEvhlh23lPZafpI7MpvXkISO5z0s9yf__LI
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Post by hoyajinx on Nov 5, 2020 19:25:50 GMT -5
That was the most disgraceful, pathetic speech I have ever seen. I hope you all on here who voted for him were pleased with what you heard. Undermining democracy to save face is always a move that’s in the best interest of the country.
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 5, 2020 20:26:59 GMT -5
That was the most disgraceful, pathetic speech I have ever seen. I hope you all on here who voted for him were pleased with what you heard. Undermining democracy to save face is always a move that’s in the best interest of the country. Trailing Democratic nominee Joe Biden in the unresolved presidential contest, Trump is pulling out a playbook perfected by Russian President Vladimir Putin and other authoritarians. It relies on sowing doubt about the institutions of law and government, spreading misinformation or outright lies that serve a leader’s political ends and relying on a cadre of loyal supporters to believe what they are told, Putin scholars said. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-attacks-on-vote-counts-seem-to-follow-an-authoritarian-playbook/2020/11/05/79a869ec-1f8a-11eb-b532-05c751cd5dc2_story.html
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2020 22:20:04 GMT -5
Not just Trump.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2020 11:54:34 GMT -5
There has been no evidence of illegal votes anywhere. Republicans HAVE been able to observe. They need to provide evidence or knock it off.
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Post by tashoya on Nov 6, 2020 15:13:57 GMT -5
There has been no evidence of illegal votes anywhere. Republicans HAVE been able to observe. They need to provide evidence or knock it off. Except that they don't have to knock it off. Most Republicans favor limiting voting and access to voting because, as everyone knows, they're in the minority and without gerrymandering and actively interfering in elections, they would lose. In addition, exceedingly few Republicans are coming out against this ridiculous, baseless rhetoric. Apparently, elected Republicans are just fine with hampering the democratic process. Seemingly, as long as it turns out their way, their base is fine with it as well. In other words, democracy and fairness is less important than them getting their way. If and when they finally do lose, I very much doubt many on the other side will forget this demonstration of their true values.
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