dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on May 24, 2017 21:42:59 GMT -5
I am not certain if Tremont or his family have actually said anything that suggests that they are trouble? If so, I stand corrected. My concern is that somehow this kid is getting painted as trouble when in fact he has done nothing other than ask out of a commitment after watching the program virtually disintegrate before his eyes and the coaching staff that recruited him dismissed. He was promised a style of play that never materialized last year. He watched a team with more talent than its record grossly under-perform and saw a fan base desert the team both in terms of attendance and emotional support. Given all that how can anyone consider his actions as unreasonable or questionable. "He was promised a style of play that never materialized last year." What does this have to do with ANYTHING? I could see if he played for a year and then decided to xfer. But that statement is odd. Also, his situation is more nuanced than that. But if you want to water it down, you have every right to.
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s4hoyas
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Post by s4hoyas on May 24, 2017 21:48:31 GMT -5
He committed to Georgetown...Georgetown hasn't changed...the Head coach has changed, and he's a Hall of Famer who's coach a top point guard and has 16 years familiarity with NBA style offenses...the academics are still top notch...so?
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Post by hoyaresurrection on May 24, 2017 21:59:37 GMT -5
This kid is another problem with a family that is making it worse. I can tell by the way he's handling his business he's going to fail. This decommitting and hold out is his fifteen minutes. I would hope PE comes right out and says if he's not on board already he doesn't deserve a spot here. Set the tone for the future. Let's move on.
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Post by hoya2x2010 on May 24, 2017 22:05:45 GMT -5
This kid is another problem with a family that is making it worse. I can tell by the way he's handling his business he's going to fail. This decommitting and hold out is his fifteen minutes. I would hope PE comes right out and says if he's not on board already he doesn't deserve a spot here. Set the tone for the future. Let's move on. this is legitimately unhinged. If Michael porter decides mizzou isn't the place for him and he really wants to be a Hoya, you're passing? kids de-commit all the time. In fact, I de-committed from a school before choosing Georgetown. I did what I thought was in my best interest. Whatever he does, I hope That is the reason he does it.
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Post by hoyaresurrection on May 24, 2017 22:16:18 GMT -5
This kid is another problem with a family that is making it worse. I can tell by the way he's handling his business he's going to fail. This decommitting and hold out is his fifteen minutes. I would hope PE comes right out and says if he's not on board already he doesn't deserve a spot here. Set the tone for the future. Let's move on. this is legitimately unhinged. If Michael porter decides mizzou isn't the place for him and he really wants to be a Hoya, you're passing? kids de-commit all the time. In fact, I de-committed from a school before choosing Georgetown. I did what I thought was in my best interest. Whatever he does, I hope That is the reason he does it. I'm sure you had a reason for your decision. There is no rational approach any longer to what this kid is doing. I bet he's a bust because mentally he can't get it done at the next level.
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swhoya
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Post by swhoya on May 24, 2017 22:39:15 GMT -5
this is legitimately unhinged. If Michael porter decides mizzou isn't the place for him and he really wants to be a Hoya, you're passing? kids de-commit all the time. In fact, I de-committed from a school before choosing Georgetown. I did what I thought was in my best interest. Whatever he does, I hope That is the reason he does it. I'm sure you had a reason for your decision. There is no rational approach any longer to what this kid is doing. I bet he's a bust because mentally he can't get it done at the next level. What it does it say about someone "mentally" that they go on talk boards to disparage high school seniors? Do you have nothing positive in your life?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 24, 2017 22:44:17 GMT -5
this is legitimately unhinged. If Michael porter decides mizzou isn't the place for him and he really wants to be a Hoya, you're passing? kids de-commit all the time. In fact, I de-committed from a school before choosing Georgetown. I did what I thought was in my best interest. Whatever he does, I hope That is the reason he does it. I'm sure you had a reason for your decision. There is no rational approach any longer to what this kid is doing. I bet he's a bust because mentally he can't get it done at the next level. Well if you say he can't mentally get it done, and will be a bust, that seals it
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on May 24, 2017 23:04:08 GMT -5
Taking the noise out of it, he's making an important decision for his future and the school to which he originally committed had a brutal year on the court and showed the HC he signed on with the door. It doesn't seem all that odd that he's still considering his options and that Georgetown may not feel as certain of a fit as it once did. I'd be surprised by a commitment at this point but I can understand why he's still thinking it over.
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Post by hoyaresurrection on May 24, 2017 23:17:25 GMT -5
He's a big part of the coach getting walked out. Let's get the timeline correct. He was the last card that coach had to play and when he decommitted that was the end of that coach. I think it was blamed on this board but more on the casual board for his decision. What a mentally tough kid to let that influence him. We are in for a rebuild and need to do it right with character players.
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on May 24, 2017 23:54:41 GMT -5
He's a big part of the coach getting walked out. Let's get the timeline correct. He was the last card that coach had to play and when he decommitted that was the end of that coach. I think it was blamed on this board but more on the casual board for his decision. What a mentally tough kid to let that influence him. We are in for a rebuild and need to do it right with character players. This. If Tremont had a really strong bond with JT3, he would have never walked out on him while he was still the coach. Tremont decommitting kinda sealed JT3's fate as the fans and the board realized that next year was going to be even worse. Hence, i dont buy his reasoning of his decommitting due to uncertain coaching situation - that was a poorly played card from the waters camp imo. As i said before, he wants to play for a winning program or a program that is bringing a monster class that is poised to win (hence WKU is a strong contender here) No matter what the sour fans here blast and hope that tremont will fail, he will be a fine college player - dont necessarily think that he will make the NBA, but i could see a similar college career to Bryant Crawford.
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Post by hoyas4lyfe on May 25, 2017 6:00:22 GMT -5
According to 247, Tremont to LSU looks likely. 3 crystal ball picks last night.
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on May 25, 2017 6:22:00 GMT -5
I doubt anyone has a crystal ball it's a crap shoot and Gtown is down on its knees betting 7 come 11. We will know when the kid commits...it's all on him. I'm sure Coach Ewing and staff have done all they can do. He's ours or not...this too shall pass one way or another!!
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on May 25, 2017 7:16:20 GMT -5
I am not certain if Tremont or his family have actually said anything that suggests that they are trouble? If so, I stand corrected. My concern is that somehow this kid is getting painted as trouble when in fact he has done nothing other than ask out of a commitment after watching the program virtually disintegrate before his eyes and the coaching staff that recruited him dismissed. He was promised a style of play that never materialized last year. He watched a team with more talent than its record grossly under-perform and saw a fan base desert the team both in terms of attendance and emotional support. Given all that how can anyone consider his actions as unreasonable or questionable. "He was promised a style of play that never materialized last year." What does this have to do with ANYTHING? I could see if he played for a year and then decided to xfer. But that statement is odd. Also, his situation is more nuanced than that. But if you want to water it down, you have every right to. If you are recruited to a team with the promise that the offense is going to change and then it does not change, why should you have to wait a year and then transfer. If the coaches who recruited you are under fire, why wait. Anyone who watched this past season could see the problems. The kid has eyes and ears. He could see and hear what was and was not happening at Georgetown and I cannot see how any fan, no matter how disappointed, can blame someone who is 18 years old for changing his mind in these circumstances. If the situation is more "nuanced" and there are those with some information that the family is trouble then I defer to them. All I said is that I have not seen anything that suggests a problem.
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on May 25, 2017 7:17:31 GMT -5
This thing has felt sort of like the Latavious Williams saga since he decommitted, in that we're nominally still in the mix but I'm not sure there's any realistic chance at all. We've talked ourselves into the notion that he'll take us back, largely because it's spring, there's not that much else to focus on, and because the daydream of us actually being competitive next year with Tremont leading the way is compelling and seductive. But I don't think we've seriously been in the mix for weeks (which is why we pushed hard for guys like Blair and Dickerson). Hope I'm wrong and all the best to Waters wherever he ends up.
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 25, 2017 7:38:50 GMT -5
This thing has felt sort of like the Latavious Williams saga since he decommitted, in that we're nominally still in the mix but I'm not sure there's any realistic chance at all. Along with Derrick Payne, Williams remains one of the most discussed non-recruits in HoyaTalk history. "Williams was the first player ever to skip college basketball and play a year in the D-League before getting drafted in the NBA. He was also the first player ever to enter into the D-League directly from high school... As of September 2015, Williams has never played a competitive game (regular season or playoff) in the NBA, being one of two D-League draftees to hold such claim." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latavious_Williams
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Post by practice on May 25, 2017 7:47:13 GMT -5
this is legitimately unhinged. If Michael porter decides mizzou isn't the place for him and he really wants to be a Hoya, you're passing? kids de-commit all the time. In fact, I de-committed from a school before choosing Georgetown. I did what I thought was in my best interest. Whatever he does, I hope That is the reason he does it. I'm sure you had a reason for your decision. There is no rational approach any longer to what this kid is doing. I bet he's a bust because mentally he can't get it done at the next level. This is pathetic ... I think we all wish we were a 17 year old 4 or 5 star recruit PG who has his pick of programs ... who wouldn't want to enjoy this? This is a big decision for the kid ... his most likely profession after college is playing basketball. I don't blame him or his family for taking their sweet time ... particularly after sitting back and watching the train wreck of last season. This only seems outrageous to those of us checking Hoya Saxa and other sites daily or hourly for updates. In reality, this is a big decision and the kid and his family/friends are conducting their own evaluation. I for one would love to see Tremont wearing Blue & Gray ... this kid is a real talent. While I don't think anyone compares to AI, Waters could be one of the all time great Hoya point guards. Let's keep our fingers crossed and our negative thoughts to ourselves!
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Post by hoyalove4ever on May 25, 2017 8:17:49 GMT -5
This thing has felt sort of like the Latavious Williams saga since he decommitted, in that we're nominally still in the mix but I'm not sure there's any realistic chance at all. Along with Derrick Payne, Williams remains one of the most discussed non-recruits in HoyaTalk history. "Williams was the first player ever to skip college basketball and play a year in the D-League before getting drafted in the NBA. He was also the first player ever to enter into the D-League directly from high school... As of September 2015, Williams has never played a competitive game (regular season or playoff) in the NBA, being one of two D-League draftees to hold such claim." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latavious_WilliamsDerrick Payne is a blast from the past- I played against him in high school. He was a monster!
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 25, 2017 8:44:09 GMT -5
Those same Crystal Balls all had the Walker kid going to UCLA too. I don't trust those guys at all. They'll all shift their answer as soon as an actual decision is made.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 9:06:55 GMT -5
Those same Crystal Balls all had the Walker kid going to UCLA too. I don't trust those guys at all. They'll all shift their answer as soon as an actual decision is made. I agree they don't mean much, but they're not allowed to change their pick once the decision is made. Usually there's a mad rush right before an announcement -- when their "insiders" get some info just before everybody else gets the news. See Tremont Waters circa Oct. 19th. This tends to be pretty accurate (maybe 90%), but you can see some notable exceptions(MJ Walker, Blake Harris, etc). It's useful at that very late stage -- if only to avoid having to cull all of the expert chatter bouncing around Twitter or other media. Otherwise, all the individual picks on there tend to be nonsense -- especially when they can switch it up at any time.
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s4hoyas
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Post by s4hoyas on May 25, 2017 10:06:38 GMT -5
LSU?...I don't know that he's ever even mentioned them, let alone visited them...bad location, bad academics, bad basketball...if that happens something ain't right so I'm having a hard time believing it...
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