geedell
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Post by geedell on May 12, 2017 7:58:42 GMT -5
A ten year career for a 5 11 pg in the NBA would probably not be considered a bad thing who is not a top 5 or 10 HS player. Sadly not sure if Roy or Jeff will make it that long. Jeff Green was drafted in 2007. Ten years ago. Roy Hibbert was drafted in 2008. Nine years ago. Last time I checked, they were both still in the NBA. And have both made a considerable amount more than $19 million
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95hoya
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Post by 95hoya on May 12, 2017 8:12:47 GMT -5
We brought in a grad transfer at his position. It's clear both sides have moved on.
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Post by aleutianhoya on May 12, 2017 8:26:56 GMT -5
We brought in a grad transfer at his position. It's clear both sides have moved on. I suspect you're right. But until he removes us from consideration or otherwise announces, I'll hold out hope. In any event, there's nothing wrong with having two guys (on the court at the same time) with that skill set. So, while it's a hedge for sure (and a smart one), I wouldn't necessarily think that Dickerson's commitment means that we've moved on.
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BigmanU
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Post by BigmanU on May 12, 2017 8:35:48 GMT -5
We brought in a grad transfer at his position. It's clear both sides have moved on. Nothing has been noted to confirm this. Were still on his list last I've checked and we have an open schollie. Until one of those two things changes, nothing is clear.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on May 12, 2017 9:12:42 GMT -5
Plenty of playing time for both. Mulmore may be odd man out at PG if we land Waters.
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Post by HometownHoya on May 12, 2017 9:17:57 GMT -5
Did Waters say when he was announcing, and when is signing day? Signing day is for NLIs. At this point a NLI is not required, Tremont will just enroll wherever he decides to go.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on May 12, 2017 9:26:37 GMT -5
Look, I would be shocked if he picks the Hoyas at this point, but the situation remains very murky, so who knows...
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Post by guru on May 12, 2017 9:48:50 GMT -5
We brought in a grad transfer at his position. It's clear both sides have moved on. I suspect you're right. But until he removes us from consideration or otherwise announces, I'll hold out hope. In any event, there's nothing wrong with having two guys (on the court at the same time) with that skill set. So, while it's a hedge for sure (and a smart one), I wouldn't necessarily think that Dickerson's commitment means that we've moved on. He could have (re)chosen us at any moment over the past month. I'm pretty sure this is over. Excited to see what Coach Ewing can deliver with his revamped roster. It's gonna take a while to dig out of the hole we're in at the moment.
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dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on May 12, 2017 9:49:41 GMT -5
Plenty of playing time for both. Mulmore may be odd man out at PG if we land Waters. I think Pat will like Mulmore. He'll be valuable defensively in my opinion.
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Post by hoyacane11 on May 12, 2017 10:06:10 GMT -5
Plenty of playing time for both. Mulmore may be odd man out at PG if we land Waters. I think Pat will like Mulmore. He'll be valuable defensively in my opinion. He can also push the ball since Pat wants a more up tempo offense.
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on May 12, 2017 10:35:52 GMT -5
Looks to me Ewing will try and play a style that will have 2 ball handling decision makers on the floor as much as possible which is the way college basketball has been transitioning the last 4 years since the defensive rules changed. 3 of the last 4 National Champions used similar lineups.
Until Tremont declares or states he is no longer looking at Georgetown, gotta believe the Hoyas have as good of a chance as anyone. I look at the Dickerson signing as an insurance policy for Tre Campbell. I would imagine that Ewing needs to bring in another guard who will be on the roster in 2018-2019. Right now only Blair and Mosely are true experienced backcourt options scheduled to return in 2018-2019.
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Post by hoyazeke on May 12, 2017 11:23:19 GMT -5
Indiana has a team of all guards but somehow we need to move on from a 5* stud because we can't find minutes for 3....come on fellas, if Tremont chooses us he instantly moves to #1 on the depth chart....and they all can get enough minutes.....
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dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on May 12, 2017 11:41:36 GMT -5
I think Pat will like Mulmore. He'll be valuable defensively in my opinion. He can also push the ball since Pat wants a more up tempo offense. That he can do - he and Dickerson.
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Post by centercourt400s on May 12, 2017 12:04:54 GMT -5
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Post by BeantownHoya on May 12, 2017 12:24:18 GMT -5
So you would have to think that means Duval to Duke. What options does that leave Waters if we assume Duke is out and Uconn is still alive, who else?
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Post by beenaround on May 12, 2017 12:53:01 GMT -5
A ten year career for a 5 11 pg in the NBA would probably not be considered a bad thing who is not a top 5 or 10 HS player. Sadly not sure if Roy or Jeff will make it that long. Jeff Green was drafted in 2007. Ten years ago. Roy Hibbert was drafted in 2008. Nine years ago. Last time I checked, they were both still in the NBA. Know what..at my age, 10 years seems like a week. Please stop confusing me with facts.
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Post by professorhoya on May 12, 2017 13:09:10 GMT -5
So you would have to think that means Duval to Duke. What options does that leave Waters if we assume Duke is out and Uconn is still alive, who else? I think we have like a 1% chance of signing him unless we pull the Iverson card.
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on May 12, 2017 14:18:27 GMT -5
So you would have to think that means Duval to Duke. What options does that leave Waters if we assume Duke is out and Uconn is still alive, who else? Duval's academic eligibility is still the question? His Junior year at Prime Prep in Texas and if he was able to fix everything at IMG will be the answer.
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Post by s4hoyas on May 12, 2017 14:35:08 GMT -5
Man, 1% ?...to whom do you ascribe the other 99%?...To my knowledge there aren't any other schools that fit his criteria who have entered the picture and where he has visited...there has been some kind of holding pattern going on that has evidently stalled the decision... I have absolutely no inside info, but have thought the delay to be likely due to the Duke situation, though nothing has been made public to that effect... Duke has the academics that Tremont and his Dad have expressed represent a highly significant piece of their decision making (as well as Georgetown).. I don't see that component at all with his other schools...Frank Jackson has now officially left Duke for the draft (and hired an agent), which some think further solidifies the liklihood that they'll get Trevon Duval (the #1 point guard)...he visited Georgetown twice in the fall, and evidently loved it. He's had time to meet with the new coach and get a sense that things are moving in a very positive direction...he starts here day 1 and is the floor leader for a team that's adding some nice parts...I honestly don't see why we wouldn't still be his choice and a great fit for him and us...I hope that when the gurus look back in 10 years at the resurgence of Georgetown basketball, they point to two things as catalysts, the hiring of Patrick Ewing and the commitment of Tremont Waters.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 12, 2017 14:55:14 GMT -5
So you would have to think that means Duval to Duke. What options does that leave Waters if we assume Duke is out and Uconn is still alive, who else? I think we have like a 1% chance of signing him unless we pull the Iverson card. Not sure how we are supposed to "pull the Iverson card". We know that AI can't contact or talk to the kid before there is a commitment, and Patrick has already talked to Tremont about having Allen talk to (and work with?) him if he does come here.
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