MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Jan 27, 2017 20:14:15 GMT -5
All the uncommitted guys are pretty much out of our range. That hasn't stopped JT3 in other years. The problem is he hasn't closed. What's different now is having a player in that group who can help you. JT3 needs to go all-out this year to get an(another) impact player for the incoming '17 class. You are expecting too much.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 27, 2017 20:16:19 GMT -5
That hasn't stopped JT3 in other years. The problem is he hasn't closed. What's different now is having a player in that group who can help you. JT3 needs to go all-out this year to get an(another) impact player for the incoming '17 class. You are expecting too much. Yes, but Hope springs eternal.
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Post by vv83 on Jan 27, 2017 20:53:08 GMT -5
Just finished watching Waters' game tonight - it was broadcast live on line. Talented kid on both ends of the court. The competition was not too tough, but Waters completely controlled the game any time the score got closer than about 15 points. Really deep, comfortable range, even off the dribble. Very strong ball skills, solid passing, clever finishes at the basket. He showed the whole package we have seen in highlights.
On D his hands are really quick, and he anticipates the passing lanes well. Bigger guards will be able to post him up at times, but he will be good at darting around them to steal entry passes. Plays under control - kind of looks like he is going at cruising speed, then turns on the jets to attack the lane/rim. Not dramatically super athletic - but he blows by guys when he turns it on, and he can dunk pretty easily at 5'9 - so he might be more explosive than he initially appears. He is so coordinated and smooth that it may look like he is moving a lot slower/less explosively than he really is. II think he made all his foul shots, and he took plenty. Shooting form is pretty much mechanically perfect, I can't see him being any worse than an 85% foul shooter
He plays hard, but does not display a whole lot of outward emotion. You can see why he might connect with JTIII with the even-keel emotional affect.
He scored at least 30, had plenty of good passes leading to baskets/fouls as well . It is just one game, against a pretty weak team. But it was nice to see him do his thing for an entire game. Who knows how all this will translate to college - but you really can't ask for a whole lot more than what Waters brings to the table in a PG prospect coming out of high school.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 21:29:42 GMT -5
Just finished watching Waters' game tonight - it was broadcast live on line. Talented kid on both ends of the court. The competition was not too tough, but Waters completely controlled the game any time the score got closer than about 15 points. Really deep, comfortable range, even off the dribble. Very strong ball skills, solid passing, clever finishes at the basket. He showed the whole package we have seen in highlights. On D his hands are really quick, and he anticipates the passing lanes well. Bigger guards will be able to post him up at times, but he will be good at darting around them to steal entry passes. Plays under control - kind of looks like he is going at cruising speed, then turns on the jets to attack the lane/rim. Not dramatically super athletic - but he blows by guys when he turns it on, and he can dunk pretty easily at 5'9 - so he might be more explosive than he initially appears. He is so coordinated and smooth that it may look like he is moving a lot slower/less explosively than he really is. II think he made all his foul shots, and he took plenty. Shooting form is pretty much mechanically perfect, I can't see him being any worse than an 85% foul shooter He plays hard, but does not display a whole lot of outward emotion. You can see why he might connect with JTIII with the even-keel emotional affect. He scored at least 30, had plenty of good passes leading to baskets/fouls as well . It is just one game, against a pretty weak team. But it was nice to see him do his thing for an entire game. Who knows how all this will translate to college - but you really can't ask for a whole lot more than what Waters brings to the table in a PG prospect coming out of high school. On point... definitely changes speed better than any guard to come thru here in a while. Always seems in command and very very hard to speed up... Check out the Bergen game they have really big guards and some size underneath. Lots of HM and MM talent on that team. He hit the game winner and barely showed emotion. When they won he calmly walked to the sideline to shake hands while his team was celebrating... He's just built different, doesn't get rattled, expects to win
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 27, 2017 21:53:54 GMT -5
Very fast at changing direction to create spacing and crafty as hell. He may have an adjustment period in college, but I expect a lot of highlights.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 28, 2017 6:22:51 GMT -5
He's just what the Hoyas need and the point guard JT3 never had good job getting this special player
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 28, 2017 6:23:36 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 14:11:06 GMT -5
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jan 28, 2017 16:01:02 GMT -5
A definite game changer! If Peak stays we are Final Four bound. Mark my word.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 16:25:22 GMT -5
Yikes... Slow down MG.. Lol OO
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 30, 2017 12:45:21 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 2:27:47 GMT -5
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Feb 3, 2017 14:38:25 GMT -5
TONIGHT!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 12:00:04 GMT -5
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Post by iheartdurenbros on Feb 4, 2017 17:59:18 GMT -5
I saw the last 15 minutes of the ND--WH game last night. It was a rough game for Notre Dame and they pulled it out in the end. It seemed that Waters himself had a rough shooting night. Waters made some nice defensive plays to help. He can really move the basketball up court and fast using both his dribble and passing. He was able to pass it directly to the open man underneath the basket from the half court line. I don't know if the Hoyas ever had a guard who could make that pass. He brings a lot to the table.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 15:30:37 GMT -5
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Post by OldHoyafan on Feb 7, 2017 16:20:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the clips. The young man is special. His anticipated arrival next year is what makes this season bearable. Hope the Hoyas can add another 2g who can shoot , penetrate and play defense.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 7, 2017 18:55:44 GMT -5
Batman needs a Robin!
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Feb 7, 2017 21:39:27 GMT -5
tell you what, give me Waters along with Peak, Govan, and Derrickson--That's going to be some serious ball playing, folks.
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Post by HometownHoya on Feb 7, 2017 21:45:39 GMT -5
tell you what, give me Waters along with Peak, Govan, and Derrickson--That's going to be some serious ball playing, folks. Agreed. I just hope that JT3 tells him that he doesn't have to do it all. Just set up your teammates in good positions and be ready when it gets back to you. Also he needs to tell everyone not to take the first shot after Tremont breaks down the defense. As we've felt, if you can get the defense on ice then make 2-3 passes, you'll have beyond wide open shots.
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