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Post by stafford72 on Feb 8, 2019 19:31:55 GMT -5
Make it 10 with Williams.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 8, 2019 20:41:50 GMT -5
Thought that this would be an interesting topic. There may be some questions over what position I put some players at, but I did what I thought was best. If you had a $15 budget, who would make your roster? PG SG SF PF C $5- AI Sleepy Williams Sweetney Ewing $4- Braswell Wingate Green Othella Alonzo $3- M. Jackson DSR Otto Monroe Hibbert$2- Joey Brown John Duren Bill Martin Sims Mutombo $1- J. Wallace A. Freeman Craig Shelton B. Bowman Merlin Wilson My 5 would be Jackson, Wingate, Shelton, Monroe, and Alonzo AI ($5) Freeman (1) Otto (3) Mourning (4) Mutombo (2)
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Post by HoyaChris on Feb 8, 2019 21:00:37 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but the omission of Reggie Williams from the t-shirt is criminal.
He was clearly a better college player than Duren, Green, Hibbert, Mutombo and Otto.
I will write Reggie's name onto my t-shirt
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Post by aleutianhoya on Feb 8, 2019 21:12:08 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but the omission of Reggie Williams from the t-shirt is criminal. He was clearly a better college player than Duren, Green, Hibbert, Mutombo and Otto. I will write Reggie's name onto my t-shirt When you've had only a handful of consensus all Americans you simply can't leave one off! Reggie has to be on. (But so does Otto.)
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 9, 2019 10:41:10 GMT -5
Reggie! #1 out of highs high school. Led team to Elite Eight.
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Post by mapei on Feb 9, 2019 16:13:29 GMT -5
Otto is on the t-shirt. I too am really bothered that Reggie isn't.
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Post by MassHoya on Feb 10, 2019 14:44:42 GMT -5
The omission of Derrick Jackson and Reggie Williams is a travesty. T-shirt was obviously designed by a Syracuse fan.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 10, 2019 15:42:23 GMT -5
Reggie had a better Hoya career than half the shirt. Came in as #1 high school player in the nation. NCAA championship, final game in ‘85 and senior year carried a team to the elite eight.
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Post by guru on Feb 10, 2019 17:33:16 GMT -5
Reggie had a better Hoya career than half the shirt. Came in as #1 high school player in the nation. NCAA championship, final game in ‘85 and senior year carried a team to the elite eight. It’s kind of a joke that Hibbert is on there and some others, notably Williams as you point out, were left off. And I liked Roy a lot. But still. It’s nuts. Great shirt tho.
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Post by hoyajmw on Feb 10, 2019 20:03:29 GMT -5
Let me add to the chorus, and throw in a couple more things, about how criminal it is that Reggie isn't on the shirt.
(1) He was a VERY critical cog in the national championship title game -- so much so he was one of the I think two players (Patrick the other/the MVP) interviewed by CBS afterward. (2) Of course his senior year he was SO much The Man that the team that made the Elite Eight was known as "Reggie and the Miracles." (But I'm betting everyone here knows that...) (3) What everyone here likely does not know or remember is not only was Reggie conference Player of the Year and the MVP of the Big East Tourney in '87 in leading the Hoyas to a never-in-doubt tourney title, beating Syracuse in the final by 10, BUT he hit a LONG three at the half time buzzer in the final to build on an already big lead. A former professor at GU of ours, who still attends most games in an official role at the scorer's table, referred to it at the time as an "AMF" shot -- which he said meant "Adios... [My Friend?]"
Random funny shirt-related matter: I saw Lonnie Duren (older brother of BaBa/was on the team with him) walking down the street after the game with about 40 of the shirts under one arm....
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Post by DallasHoya on Feb 10, 2019 22:03:53 GMT -5
Let me add to the chorus, and throw in a couple more things, about how criminal it is that Reggie isn't on the shirt. (1) He was a VERY critical cog in the national championship title game -- so much so he was one of the I think two players (Patrick the other/the MVP) interviewed by CBS afterward. (2) Of course his senior year he was SO much The Man that the team that made the Elite Eight was known as "Reggie and the Miracles." (But I'm betting everyone here knows that...) (3) What everyone here likely does not know or remember is not only was Reggie the MVP of the Big East Tourney in '87 in leading the Hoyas to a never-in-doubt title, beating Syracuse in the final by 10, BUT he hit a LONG three at the half time buzzer in the final to build on an already big lead. A former professor at GU of ours, who still attends most games in an official role at the scorer's table, referred to it at the time as an "AMF" shot -- which he said meant "Adios... [My Friend?]" Random funny shirt-related matter: I saw Lonnie Duren (older brother of BaBa/was on the team with him) walking down the street after the game with about 40 of the shirts under one arm.... Reggie actually led the team in scoring in the national championship game as a freshman.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 10, 2019 22:35:59 GMT -5
Reggie’s ‘87 team took down Danny Manning and Kansas in the Sweet Sixteen. Manning’s team won the NCAA the following year.
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Post by hoyajmw on Feb 10, 2019 23:16:01 GMT -5
Let me add one other name into the hopper that I think gets lost in these conversations. Charles Smith '89 was Big East Player of the Year in '89; second team all-American; member of the '88 Olympic Team (coached by Big John); and led a Hoya team in '89 that was the number 1 overall seed in the NCAA tourney (the last one of those I believe we've had). He had his "coming out" party as a sophomore in the second round of the NCAAs with 22 second half points in leading the Hoyas past Ohio State/rallying us to the win from 11 down at the half; beat LSU with a 30 foot jumper at the buzzer in the opening round of the NCAA tourney the next year; beat SUcks that year by one with a 6 second full court "dash in the Dome" dipsy-doo 6 foot "lay-up" past/over Derrick Coleman and Rony Seikely at the buzzer; and was THE key player on the '89 team that lost to Duke in the Elite Eight (in part because he had twisted an ankle in an earlier round game and gutted it out but wasn't the same). Alnonzo and Dikembe were (only) first years on that team, but Charles was the straw that stirred the drink (to borrow a hoary but apt term). And anyone who saw Charles play can tell you he was QUITE the show, especially finishing around the basket (think a combo Iverson/McClung -- other than the dunk thing...) I think he gets forgotten because he had a very unfortunate post graduate life (but now coaches during the Kenner League), but in terms of impact AS A HOYA he deserves consideration. The book-ends for the 80s "Decade of Excellence" on the Hilltop were Duren/Shelton/Floyd at the start and Smith/Mourning/Mutumbo at the end, and I just want to remind folks of Charles' role in that....
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 11, 2019 5:57:44 GMT -5
Let me add one other name into the hopper that I think gets lost in these conversations. Charles Smith '89 was Big East Player of the Year in '89; second team all-American; member of the '88 Olympic Team (coached by Big John); and led a Hoya team in '89 that was the number 1 overall seed in the NCAA tourney (the last one of those I believe we've had). He had his "coming out" party as a sophomore in the second round of the NCAAs with 22 second half points in leading the Hoyas past Ohio State/rallying us to the win from 11 down at the half; beat LSU with a 30 foot jumper at the buzzer in the opening round of the NCAA tourney the next year; beat SUcks that year by one with a 6 second full court "dash in the Dome" dipsy-doo 6 foot "lay-up" past/over Derrick Coleman and Rony Seikely at the buzzer; and was THE key player on the '89 team that lost to Duke in the Elite Eight (in part because he had twisted an ankle in an earlier round game and gutted it out but wasn't the same). Alnonzo and Dikembe were (only) first years on that team, but Charles was the straw that stirred the drink (to borrow a hoary but apt term). And anyone who saw Charles play can tell you he was QUITE the show, especially finishing around the basket (think a combo Iverson/McClung -- other than the dunk thing...) I think he gets forgotten because he had a very unfortunate post graduate life (but now coaches during the Kenner League), but in terms of impact AS A HOYA he deserves consideration. The book-ends for the 80s "Decade of Excellence" on the Hilltop were Duren/Shelton/Floyd at the start and Smith/Mourning/Mutumbo at the end, and I just want to remind folks of Charles' role in that.... View AttachmentIIRC, what made Smitty's collegiate career even more remarkable was that Big John recruited him and honestly told him to expect to come off the bench if he came to GU.
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Post by jwp91 on Feb 11, 2019 6:57:00 GMT -5
Let me add one other name into the hopper that I think gets lost in these conversations. Charles Smith '89 was Big East Player of the Year in '89; second team all-American; member of the '88 Olympic Team (coached by Big John); and led a Hoya team in '89 that was the number 1 overall seed in the NCAA tourney (the last one of those I believe we've had). He had his "coming out" party as a sophomore in the second round of the NCAAs with 22 second half points in leading the Hoyas past Ohio State/rallying us to the win from 11 down at the half; beat LSU with a 30 foot jumper at the buzzer in the opening round of the NCAA tourney the next year; beat SUcks that year by one with a 6 second full court "dash in the Dome" dipsy-doo 6 foot "lay-up" past/over Derrick Coleman and Rony Seikely at the buzzer; and was THE key player on the '89 team that lost to Duke in the Elite Eight (in part because he had twisted an ankle in an earlier round game and gutted it out but wasn't the same). Alnonzo and Dikembe were (only) first years on that team, but Charles was the straw that stirred the drink (to borrow a hoary but apt term). And anyone who saw Charles play can tell you he was QUITE the show, especially finishing around the basket (think a combo Iverson/McClung -- other than the dunk thing...) I think he gets forgotten because he had a very unfortunate post graduate life (but now coaches during the Kenner League), but in terms of impact AS A HOYA he deserves consideration. The book-ends for the 80s "Decade of Excellence" on the Hilltop were Duren/Shelton/Floyd at the start and Smith/Mourning/Mutumbo at the end, and I just want to remind folks of Charles' role in that.... View AttachmentIIRC, what made Smitty's collegiate career even more remarkable was that Big John recruited him and honestly told him to expect to come off the bench if he came to GU. As I recall, Thompson told him he was never going to play. He was called a defensive specialist who blossomed into a Mac McClung like player - a complete unexpected revelation. Smith definitely deserves to be in this conversation.
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